velu Posted July 14, 2025 Posted July 14, 2025 On 7/13/2025 at 9:29 AM, coffee_rules said: P.S: I work in Boeing , not in the aviation dept . coffee_rules 1
EnterTheVoid Posted July 14, 2025 Posted July 14, 2025 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14902331/Air-India-crash-pilots-medical-records-examined-mental-health.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawLh7fxleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFaTmVMVzA1YjBHNnVranJCAR7RhBlYoS1f8Ag3F2MADf_qn_w0gBczkOYG1wSqzvKCRy82Ko1Q1CwKFsVhwA_aem_jsPMzI4sCc19zO8RLOtxeg
kepler37b Posted July 14, 2025 Posted July 14, 2025 2 hours ago, EnterTheVoid said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14902331/Air-India-crash-pilots-medical-records-examined-mental-health.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawLh7fxleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFaTmVMVzA1YjBHNnVranJCAR7RhBlYoS1f8Ag3F2MADf_qn_w0gBczkOYG1wSqzvKCRy82Ko1Q1CwKFsVhwA_aem_jsPMzI4sCc19zO8RLOtxeg I think he must have done it in a state of absent minded-ness. He cared a lot for his father. He would not have committed suicide.
Lord Posted July 14, 2025 Posted July 14, 2025 4 hours ago, EnterTheVoid said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14902331/Air-India-crash-pilots-medical-records-examined-mental-health.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawLh7fxleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFaTmVMVzA1YjBHNnVranJCAR7RhBlYoS1f8Ag3F2MADf_qn_w0gBczkOYG1wSqzvKCRy82Ko1Q1CwKFsVhwA_aem_jsPMzI4sCc19zO8RLOtxeg Depressed guy was tasked to fly a plane. Lol great stuff
IndianRenegade Posted July 14, 2025 Posted July 14, 2025 11 hours ago, Tillu said: It was already proposed and the pilot unions were against it citing privacy concerns and possible use in disciplinary actions. That is why it should be designed in such a way that it is only accessible for air crash investigations, should probably require authorization from the manufacturer, regulator & the airline to be able to access the contents.
Lord Posted July 14, 2025 Posted July 14, 2025 12 hours ago, Tillu said: It was already proposed and the pilot unions were against it citing privacy concerns and possible use in disciplinary actions. How so? What are they doing in cockpit that can be used as such
Ranvir Posted July 14, 2025 Posted July 14, 2025 The same thing happened 10 years ago on a German aeroplane. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525 Extremely sad.
ravishingravi Posted July 15, 2025 Posted July 15, 2025 7 hours ago, kepler37b said: I think he must have done it in a state of absent minded-ness. He cared a lot for his father. He would not have committed suicide. Absent mindedness ? Its not a simple on off switch.
ravishingravi Posted July 15, 2025 Posted July 15, 2025 This report is as dubious as they get and doesn't help arrive at any conclusion. Man, the stakes are too high to arrive at the truth. Best to pin on dead pilots. Foolish junta can remain clueless as always. Lord and coffee_rules 1 1
Tillu Posted July 15, 2025 Posted July 15, 2025 4 hours ago, Lord said: How so? What are they doing in cockpit that can be used as such Might be sleeping, drinking or so many other things. It's a long journey where they are confined to a small cockpit. Even train drivers do these things.
putrevus Posted July 15, 2025 Posted July 15, 2025 It is insane that they are blaming dead pilots. What are TATAs doing, why are they not defending their employees?
coffee_rules Posted July 15, 2025 Posted July 15, 2025 12 hours ago, EnterTheVoid said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14902331/Air-India-crash-pilots-medical-records-examined-mental-health.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawLh7fxleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFaTmVMVzA1YjBHNnVranJCAR7RhBlYoS1f8Ag3F2MADf_qn_w0gBczkOYG1wSqzvKCRy82Ko1Q1CwKFsVhwA_aem_jsPMzI4sCc19zO8RLOtxeg It’s all tabloid material for the Brits at the expense of Indian lives.
coffee_rules Posted July 15, 2025 Posted July 15, 2025 1 hour ago, putrevus said: It is insane that they are blaming dead pilots. What are TATAs doing, why are they not defending their employees? Covering up their fking asses. AIIB report indicating there is issue as of now with plane or engine is damning How can they give a clean chit? At least say that it will be investigated further. Clueless sepoys still working for white masters
coffee_rules Posted July 15, 2025 Posted July 15, 2025 4 hours ago, Ranvir said: The same thing happened 10 years ago on a German aeroplane. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525 Extremely sad. Dude.. it’s not a foregone conclusion yet.
ravishingravi Posted July 15, 2025 Posted July 15, 2025 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Covering up their fking asses. AIIB report indicating there is issue as of now with plane or engine is damning How can they give a clean chit? At least say that it will be investigated further. Clueless sepoys still working for white masters This. Pilots association taking it up now coffee_rules 1
kepler37b Posted July 15, 2025 Posted July 15, 2025 4 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Absent mindedness ? Its not a simple on off switch. That man is 46. Middle age brings its own version of health issues. If what they say is true, this is a tragic misfortune. I am not buying that it's a suicide.
coffee_rules Posted July 15, 2025 Posted July 15, 2025 2 hours ago, ravishingravi said: This. Pilots association taking it up now At work, we had a luncheon and in some small talk, everyone (bloody goras and Chinese) were all sold on the pilot error/suicide and convinced that it is not Boeing’s fault and that pilot had deliberately switched off the fuel. I was seething in anger and trying to say it is not concluded but a preliminary investigation. The way, they leaked the report a. Day earlier to western media and everyone started talking about it makes me suspect everyone was nvolved to pass the buck off to the pilots and wash their hands off.
coffee_rules Posted July 15, 2025 Posted July 15, 2025 1 hour ago, kepler37b said: That man is 46. Middle age brings its own version of health issues. If what they say is true, this is a tragic misfortune. I am not buying that it's a suicide. Accidentally can be ruled out, it can’t be switched off by the cuff. The only two explanations are it was done through sabotage or this pilot action. It is a tough switch to override the lock feature to pull with 3 fingers and I am not convinced that it can be done ✔️ n a second on both switches like boom-boom. It took about 4 secs to turn it back on. But the way investigation lid going, I am afraid the narrative will be set in the latter
ravishingravi Posted July 15, 2025 Posted July 15, 2025 4 hours ago, coffee_rules said: At work, we had a luncheon and in some small talk, everyone (bloody goras and Chinese) were all sold on the pilot error/suicide and convinced that it is not Boeing’s fault and that pilot had deliberately switched off the fuel. I was seething in anger and trying to say it is not concluded but a preliminary investigation. The way, they leaked the report a. Day earlier to western media and everyone started talking about it makes me suspect everyone was nvolved to pass the buck off to the pilots and wash their hands off. Same thing in my case. But I made it a point to get their head sorted.
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