Coming together of the Thackeray brothers - What does it mean for Maharashtra politics ?

[rangeelaraja]

The much-hyped “coming together” of Uddhav and Raj Thackeray is not some ideological realignment. It’s a last-ditch scramble for political survival.

 

Uddhav’s Shiv Sena (UBT) can barely cling to electoral relevance. Raj’s MNS is a party in name only, he hasn't won a single seat in years. 

 

Both of them inherited not just a surname but also a style of politics rooted in fear, and street thuggery.

Trained under Balasaheb  they have contributed next to nothing to Maharashtra’s growth in the last two decades.

Where are the reforms?
The investments?
The jobs?
The governance?

All we've seen are press conferences, provocative speeches.

And yet, time and again, this violent, manipulative family taps into the Marathi pride sentiment, not to uplift the Marathi manoos, but to emotionally exploit them.

Are the people of Maharashtra still that gullible?

 

@coffee_rules  @Mariyam 

 

 

I am sure most of us by now has seen this gruesome video of a vicious assault on an aged restaurant owner in Mira Road, Mumbai, by MNS goondas.

 

I wish these thug brothers lose even more in upcoming elections. I wish the Marathi Manoos ask themselves how much progress and development Thackeray thug family has ever given them

 

 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 01:09 AM by rangeelaraja

[rangeelaraja]

 

What a thug. His son will be a big fat zero like his dad. Pura family hi cancer hai. 
 

I wonder why the ruling dispensation in the state has never put these thugs behind the bars for inciting violence. Whatever else have they ever done ??

 

 

 

[rangeelaraja]

 

 

[Mariyam]

All the Shiv Senas are a motley collection of goons.
 

Uddhav’s Shiv Sena

Raj’s Shiv Sena which he calls the MNS

Shinde’s Shiv Sena

And even The OG Shiv Sena.

 

The best thing that could happen to Mumbai is the Shiv Sena’s lose the BMC election whenever it is held.

 

[randomGuy]

I am not a Marathi but I guess they won't support violence against fellow innocent Indians.

[rangeelaraja]

17 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

All the Shiv Senas are a motley collection of goons.
 

Uddhav’s Shiv Sena

Raj’s Shiv Sena which he calls the MNS

Shinde’s Shiv Sena

And even The OG Shiv Sena.

 

The best thing that could happen to Mumbai is the Shiv Sena’s lose the BMC election whenever it is held.

 

 

I've never understood why the ruling govt always turns a blind eye to these thugs and never arrests them. When they are not in political power, they run a parallel law and order system.  I remember when I was in school and junior college, they used to rough up and blacken the faces of youngsters celebrating valentine's day.

 

Its a shame how the Marathi Manoos never questions them on development.

[coffee_rules]

Last ditch effort from Thackeray family to gain relevance before the BMC elections. So , the cousins have united. Public sab Janra hain. Even left media is calling RajT a masseha of secularism, just like they called UT. All is fair in election politics 

[coffee_rules]

58 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

All the Shiv Senas are a motley collection of goons.
 

Uddhav’s Shiv Sena

Raj’s Shiv Sena which he calls the MNS

Shinde’s Shiv Sena

And even The OG Shiv Sena.

 

The best thing that could happen to Mumbai is the Shiv Sena’s lose the BMC election whenever it is held.

 

You prefer NCP Sharad Pawar, Congress and UT and MNS win BMC elections? Because that is the MVA now! 

[jf1gp_1]

Doesnt matter at all. 

[Mariyam]

1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

You prefer NCP Sharad Pawar, Congress and UT and MNS win BMC elections? Because that is the MVA now! 

UT, MNS and SS (Shinde) and SS (the original one) are the same. I make no distinction there. The Shiv Sena has mismanaged the BMC for close to 28 years!

 

Divisive identity politics like the DMK but only worse coz of politically sanctioned hooliganism.

 

Roughing up people for lack of local language skills, extorting businesses, Reneging on contracts, you name it.

[randomGuy]

1 hour ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Doesnt matter at all. 

I guess SS UBT plus MNS voteshare in medium term will become as little as current voteshare of SS UBT with these counterproductive violence tactics. Surely most Marathis must be embarrassed about this violence.

[jf1gp_1]

9 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

I guess SS UBT plus MNS voteshare in medium term will become as little as current voteshare of SS UBT with these counterproductive violence tactics. Surely most Marathis must be embarrassed about this violence.

i agree. a small population might have grivences but i refuse to believe entire maharatra endorses such actions. However, migrants from Bihar, eastern UP also need to respect local culture and try to mix in. 

[randomGuy]

10 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

i agree. a small population might have grivences but i refuse to believe entire maharatra endorses such actions. However, migrants from Bihar, eastern UP also need to respect local culture and try to mix in. 

That is true for everyone. There is no reason to single out . They respect local culture as much as anyone else... Plus Bihar, UP, MP have the most beautiful culture in the entire world of Satsang, Bhajan, Katha Vachan. UP,MP in particular are the spiritual-cultural (the bhakti marg) hub of India. People of India are extremely blessed to be exposed to this culture.

[Lone Wolf]

13 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

That is true for everyone. There is no reason to single out . They respect local culture as much as anyone else... Plus Bihar, UP, MP have the most beautiful culture in the entire world of Satsang, Bhajan, Katha Vachan. UP,MP in particular are the spiritual-cultural (the bhakti marg) hub of India. People of India are extremely blessed to be exposed to this culture.

These are also blue brigade infested zones that hate Hinduism so hold your horses I'd say.   Xitian missionaries will be having field days in coming years over there after they are done with Tribals.

Edited Sunday at 07:03 AM by Lone Wolf

[jf1gp_1]

1 hour ago, randomGuy said:

That is true for everyone. There is no reason to single out . They respect local culture as much as anyone else... Plus Bihar, UP, MP have the most beautiful culture in the entire world of Satsang, Bhajan, Katha Vachan. UP,MP in particular are the spiritual-cultural (the bhakti marg) hub of India. People of India are extremely blessed to be exposed to this culture.

Sorry but i beg to differ. Its more to do with literacy rate. 

[randomGuy]

22 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Sorry but i beg to differ. Its more to do with literacy rate. 

Culture, relative crime rate , work ethic etc. - UP, MP will be found to be superior. Attitude and bias shifts take time. But sooner or later, realisation would come. And sometimes we don't want to accept also. 

[kepler37b]

8 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

Are the people of Maharashtra still that gullible?

 

@coffee_rules  @Mariyam 

 

 

 

 

 

OP expects too much from average indian voter. There is a consistent record of ghaste and freebie equations winning the elections. 

[velu]

straight out of tamilnadu politics but on steroids   

 

but DMK usually stop after blackening Hindi name boards ( and go home happily after the photoshoot ) , but these marthi guys are using violence  

[crictime]

9 hours ago, randomGuy said:

I guess SS UBT plus MNS voteshare in medium term will become as little as current voteshare of SS UBT with these counterproductive violence tactics. Surely most Marathis must be embarrassed about this violence.

 

Almost all politicians have cases against them. Without the agression of Balasaheb, the likes of  Dawoud and supporters would have screwed Maharashtra and other states of India. You cannot fight a world declared terrorist with politicians who are well educated, well mannered, well behaved. In some cases to deal with some types you need certain types of people that we have seen in NCP and SS and now in BJP. Some of them have moved many times between various parties but all that happens in politics and it is fine. Like there are cases against Modi and Shah in Gujarat, there are cases against Marathi and Muslim politicians as well. But most of them have done the greater good , even Muslims. Most politicians are having cases against them. This incident will have little bearinng on voting day. People have forgotten much severe cases in mass numbers against politicians.

 

Coming to this incident, a normal citizen was slapped.  MNS has once again used this incident to get back in news. They know how to be in news and when to come in news. It is sad someone was used for eyeballs and getting in news. This is not going to happen with everyone and everyday. What they wanted, they have achieved as this is now in news. Railway exams..anyone remembers that incident at Kalyan. It did not happen again once the party acheived their objectives. Party won.

 

BJP had to backstep in last few days because Maharashtra people supported OG SS in language row. 92 in Mumbai and then Godhra. Worse things have happened. This slap incident is nothing in comparison and this is for political eyeballs and an attempt to regain the votebank. 

 

There is a reason why all Maharashtra CM's are Marathi, but never any Gujarati. Same in other states too, majority has to be pleased and they are and will be. The majority vote bank will always be crucial. Like BJP depends on hindus as majority vote bank in Lok Sabha, they depend on Maharashtrians for votes in Maharshtra. The day Modi of BJP declares a non marathi candidate, the BJP will be out in contention of winning local elections and even will face a tough time in Lokasabha as Maharashtra has lot of seats. The point is, OG SS and MNS and NCP have used the blunder move which BJP and SS played and had to backstep few days back. So nothing is guaranteed in elections for BJP if they play some stypid moves yet again.

 

BMC was mostly about SS and NCP. BJP  does not has as much experience in local things like BMC, TMC etc that too after taking politicians from SS, some from NCP, some from INC. 

 

I would not be surprised if even Shinde goes back to OG SS. Does anyone remembers the comedy day of one day CM of Maharashtra. BJP had become a laughing stock that day.

 

Even the current CM is from OG SS and a Marathi and you go back it is similar. BJP cannot fight local elections against NCP, OG SS without using their candidates or breaking their parties. 

 

SS has done immense work for Mumbai in infarastructure. BJP is far behind in this, in fact they were not even in power to do anything locally in Maharshtra in ht entire history of Maharshtra. Even INC and NCP politicians have done lot of work for Maharashtra than what BJP has done. Shinde helped a lot which impacted personally, even INC MLA and BJP MLA. All of them are good if you know them. They are united internally even though they fight against each other in elections through different parties. Fadnavis is nobody in comparison to UBT or Shinde or Sharad Pawar in the grand scheme of Maharshtra politics. UBT has hold on right peole with him and it will help him immensely when he comes to power in Maharashtra elections. There are many others from NCP and SS who have done much better work for people of Maharashtra over decades. SS joining NCP was a big move in Mahasrahtra politics. Further Shinde breaking away was another. If he comes back to SS BJP are in a huge trouble. 

 

In elections if majority, which is  Maharashtrians,  decides whether BJP has to fall, they will ensure it will. If they wish SS has to win, so will it happen. This majority vote bank influence is common in every state.  I have seen many such and worse incidents across my lifetime. And still those incidents have not swayed the vote bank. Only major issues affect elections once majority people decide who should win. This will be forgotten. People of different religions in Maharashtra will mingle with each other,irrespective of this. Not the first , neither the last incident. No impact on elections nor on the public unity.

 

 

 

 

[ravishingravi]

Last ditch effort to save their political career.