'If Virat Kohli batted instead of Shubman Gill, he would've slammed a century': India captain told to avoid aggression

[BacktoCricaddict]

11 hours ago, rollingstoned said:

If Virat Kohli had come out to bat, he would have looked into the face of those people and got a hundred.

 

50/100

[R!TTER]

This is Kohli's full career -

 

Primary team India

Start of match date between 1 Jan 2011 and 31 Dec 2025

Innings in match 4th innings

Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 400

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
RR Pant	2018-2025	17	12	2	475	114	47.50	688	69.04	1	3	1	57	10
V Kohli	2011-2024	38	32	6	1102	141	42.38	1902	57.93	2	7	2	132	3
AM Rahane	2013-2023	24	19	4	471	52*	31.40	1005	46.86	0	2	2	51	4
CA Pujara	2011-2023	30	27	5	624	82*	28.36	1398	44.63	0	3	2	86	1
RG Sharma	2014-2024	23	22	4	490	55	27.22	925	52.97	0	2	0	54	10

 

 

And his run making streak during our reign as a top 3 side, shock/horror  

 

Primary team India

Start of match date between 1 Jan 2016 and 31 Dec 2025

Innings in match 4th innings

Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
RR Pant	2018-2025	17	12	2	475	114	47.50	688	69.04	1	3	1	57	10
YBK Jaiswal	2024-2025	9	9	1	301	84	37.62	449	67.03	0	3	1	38	4
Shubman Gill	2020-2025	15	14	3	345	91	31.36	595	57.98	0	3	1	37	6
RG Sharma	2018-2024	17	16	3	385	55	29.61	617	62.39	0	2	0	44	8
KL Rahul	2017-2025	17	15	3	354	149	29.50	592	59.79	1	1	3	48	2
V Kohli	2016-2024	22	18	3	433	72	28.86	829	52.23	0	3	1	49	0
AM Rahane	2016-2023	16	12	2	278	51	27.80	572	48.60	0	1	1	26	4
R Ashwin	2016-2024	20	12	2	262	42*	26.20	557	47.03	0	0	0	33	2
CA Pujara	2016-2023	19	17	2	333	77	22.20	841	39.59	0	2	2	44	0

 

 

Basically take out the once in a life twin hundreds at Adelaide he has absolutely nothing to show in 4th innings - this supposedly for the best "chaser" ever 

 

Want to know where he scored the other 4th innings ton - just don't look it up 

 

His ODI record in big/KO games is even worse!

[vvvslaxman]

In hindsight INdia bowled them out too soon. There is no way they were going to declare at 195. INdia had to bat during an uncomfortable one hour which was too many overs for England to make a dent. Indian batsmen were in no win situation. That is why Jaiswal's brainfade needs to be questioned.

[kosingh]

I agree that Gill is not naturally aggressive. But it's crazy Link the defeat to Gill's aggression backfiring. 

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

11 minutes ago, kosingh said:

I agree that Gill is not naturally aggressive. But it's crazy Link the defeat to Gill's aggression backfiring. 

 

 

 

Inform no.4 batsman shouldn't be exposed to newish ball on Lords slope on day 4/5 pitch. They should have sent Washignton and other guys up. Gill against old ball this chase would have been a cake walk when you look at the way Bumrah and Siraj survived. These are all out of the box thinking. 

[kosingh]

5 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Inform no.4 batsman shouldn't be exposed to newish ball on Lords slope on day 4/5 pitch. They should have sent Washignton and other guys up. Gill against old ball this chase would have been a cake walk when you look at the way Bumrah and Siraj survived. These are all out of the box thinking. 

 

Don't expect out of the box thinking from Bill Gambhir combo. For that, either coach or captain has to be shrewd. 

 

[Lord]

1 hour ago, R!TTER said:

This is Kohli's full career -

 

Primary team India

Start of match date between 1 Jan 2011 and 31 Dec 2025

Innings in match 4th innings

Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 400

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
RR Pant	2018-2025	17	12	2	475	114	47.50	688	69.04	1	3	1	57	10
V Kohli	2011-2024	38	32	6	1102	141	42.38	1902	57.93	2	7	2	132	3
AM Rahane	2013-2023	24	19	4	471	52*	31.40	1005	46.86	0	2	2	51	4
CA Pujara	2011-2023	30	27	5	624	82*	28.36	1398	44.63	0	3	2	86	1
RG Sharma	2014-2024	23	22	4	490	55	27.22	925	52.97	0	2	0	54	10

 

 

And his run making streak during our reign as a top 3 side, shock/horror  

 

Primary team India

Start of match date between 1 Jan 2016 and 31 Dec 2025

Innings in match 4th innings

Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
RR Pant	2018-2025	17	12	2	475	114	47.50	688	69.04	1	3	1	57	10
YBK Jaiswal	2024-2025	9	9	1	301	84	37.62	449	67.03	0	3	1	38	4
Shubman Gill	2020-2025	15	14	3	345	91	31.36	595	57.98	0	3	1	37	6
RG Sharma	2018-2024	17	16	3	385	55	29.61	617	62.39	0	2	0	44	8
KL Rahul	2017-2025	17	15	3	354	149	29.50	592	59.79	1	1	3	48	2
V Kohli	2016-2024	22	18	3	433	72	28.86	829	52.23	0	3	1	49	0
AM Rahane	2016-2023	16	12	2	278	51	27.80	572	48.60	0	1	1	26	4
R Ashwin	2016-2024	20	12	2	262	42*	26.20	557	47.03	0	0	0	33	2
CA Pujara	2016-2023	19	17	2	333	77	22.20	841	39.59	0	2	2	44	0

 

 

Basically take out the once in a life twin hundreds at Adelaide he has absolutely nothing to show in 4th innings - this supposedly for the best "chaser" ever 

Want to know where he scored the other 4th innings ton - just don't look it up 

 

His ODI record in big/KO games is even worse!

NZ where BMac scored 300 after Kohli dropped the catch?

[putrevus]

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;innings_number=4;orderby=runs;team=6;template=results;type=batting

 

 

Kohli is still better than Sachin, Dravid, Laxman , Sehwag and lot of others in 4th innings overall. 

 

Only guys who are better than him are Sunny and Pant.

 

We all know what great things others did in ICC knockouts. 

 

Edited July 16, 2025 by putrevus

[Bigg Brother]

2 hours ago, Insidious said:

Kohli thriving on aggression is a myth, a big fat lie.  His fans/ PR used to refer to that MCG test to show that how aggression bring the best out of him.

 

But the truth is  Kohli lost his cool after that brief altercation with Johnson and almost threw his wicket in that MCG test in 2014. Someone dropped his catch and then it was Rahane who calm him down. Those who follow that match live knew this. 

 

Even in 2017 Home series he was bullied by Aussies (averaging in single digit) where his aggression evaporated and could not face the heat of raging Aussies. Before the series, There was all kind of talk of not sledging Kohli on cricket.com.au as he thrives on it (tons of videos to hype the series) and as soon as the series began, Kohli couldn't handle it with bat and as Captain as well. 

 

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

6 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said:

Even in 2017 Home series he was bullied by Aussies (averaging in single digit) where his aggression evaporated and could not face the heat of raging Aussies. Before the series, There was all kind of talk of not sledging Kohli on cricket.com.au as he thrives on it (tons of videos to hype the series) and as soon as the series began, Kohli couldn't handle it with bat and as Captain as well. 

 

 

 

 

Worst was how he was owned by Taijul islam, SHakib Al hasan, MEhidy hasan on that turning mirpur wicket.  We were chasing 145. This guy made 1 run in 22 balls lol.  Axar patel, Ashwin, Iyer saved the day for us.

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-in-bangladesh-2022-23-1340842/bangladesh-vs-india-2nd-test-1340849/full-scorecard

[sage]

Zero 150+ fourth innings chases in virats entire career. What are they talking

[Lord]

1 hour ago, sage said:

Zero 150+ fourth innings chases in virats entire career. What are they talking

 

Not true

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/new-zealand-tour-of-india-2012-565793/india-vs-new-zealand-2nd-test-565818/full-scorecard

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-india-2012-13-598808/india-vs-australia-4th-test-598815/full-scorecard

[Suhaan]

10 hours ago, Lord said:

Kohli PR still strong  

 

bc kab jaan chhutegi 

They are even asking to come out of his retirement 

[StraightDrive26]

Stop romanticising the past. Virat Kohli had to retire because he wasn't scoring any runs for years and was not contributing to the Test team anymore. He retired because he did not have the will to improve anymore in Tests. Playing LOIs is much easy. The white ball does not swing after 5-6 overs and the field is spread with flat wickets. So stop making Virat more than he actually was with the bat. He was very good till 2019, I agree but in his last 6 years in Tests he was horrible. Yes he was a very good captain but again he also had the best bowling attack at his disposal. Ishant was brilliant, Shami was fantastic and Bumrah was great. Siraj was a good backup bowler for Bumrah and Shami. Right now we only have Bumrah and Siraj isn't a main bowler and Akashdeep isn't consistent. So cannot compare the both. Just having aggressing will not help you bowl out opposition, you need the skill. 

[Suhaan]

6 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

In hindsight INdia bowled them out too soon. There is no way they were going to declare at 195. INdia had to bat during an uncomfortable one hour which was too many overs for England to make a dent. Indian batsmen were in no win situation. That is why Jaiswal's brainfade needs to be questioned.

Yes ,I said if we chased a similar target from last day morning , we'd better chance 

[Suhaan]

5 hours ago, putrevus said:

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;innings_number=4;orderby=runs;team=6;template=results;type=batting

 

 

Kohli is still better than Sachin, Dravid, Laxman , Sehwag and lot of others in 4th innings overall. 

 

Only guys who are better than him are Sunny and Pant.

 

We all know what great things others did in ICC knockouts. 

 

 

[Adamant]

19 hours ago, Gollum said:

Since Tendulkar's retirement, India has 2 successful 150+ chases, Gabba and Ranchi '24. Kohli didn't play either of those games. 

No need to add 'Since Tendulkar's retirement ' lol, he was a proven 4th innings choker, has an average below 40 in the fourth innings. His only knock in winning chase came against England on a flat patta with Sehwag winning the Motm.

[Adamant]

10 hours ago, R!TTER said:

This is Kohli's full career -

 

Primary team India

Start of match date between 1 Jan 2011 and 31 Dec 2025

Innings in match 4th innings

Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 400

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
RR Pant	2018-2025	17	12	2	475	114	47.50	688	69.04	1	3	1	57	10
V Kohli	2011-2024	38	32	6	1102	141	42.38	1902	57.93	2	7	2	132	3
AM Rahane	2013-2023	24	19	4	471	52*	31.40	1005	46.86	0	2	2	51	4
CA Pujara	2011-2023	30	27	5	624	82*	28.36	1398	44.63	0	3	2	86	1
RG Sharma	2014-2024	23	22	4	490	55	27.22	925	52.97	0	2	0	54	10

 

 

And his run making streak during our reign as a top 3 side, shock/horror  

 

Primary team India

Start of match date between 1 Jan 2016 and 31 Dec 2025

Innings in match 4th innings

Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
RR Pant	2018-2025	17	12	2	475	114	47.50	688	69.04	1	3	1	57	10
YBK Jaiswal	2024-2025	9	9	1	301	84	37.62	449	67.03	0	3	1	38	4
Shubman Gill	2020-2025	15	14	3	345	91	31.36	595	57.98	0	3	1	37	6
RG Sharma	2018-2024	17	16	3	385	55	29.61	617	62.39	0	2	0	44	8
KL Rahul	2017-2025	17	15	3	354	149	29.50	592	59.79	1	1	3	48	2
V Kohli	2016-2024	22	18	3	433	72	28.86	829	52.23	0	3	1	49	0
AM Rahane	2016-2023	16	12	2	278	51	27.80	572	48.60	0	1	1	26	4
R Ashwin	2016-2024	20	12	2	262	42*	26.20	557	47.03	0	0	0	33	2
CA Pujara	2016-2023	19	17	2	333	77	22.20	841	39.59	0	2	2	44	0

 

 

Basically take out the once in a life twin hundreds at Adelaide he has absolutely nothing to show in 4th innings - this supposedly for the best "chaser" ever 

 

Want to know where he scored the other 4th innings ton - just don't look it up 

 

His ODI record in big/KO games is even worse!

To all the Tendulkar fans out here, let's test your aukaad, show me one match winning knock of Sachin against non minnows in an icc world cup ko.

 

Actually just tell me one icc ko knock that was better than Kohlis 90 odd vs Aus in CT this year.

 

[Gollum]

6 minutes ago, Adamant said:

No need to add 'Since Tendulkar's retirement ' lol, he was a proven 4th innings choker, has an average below 40 in the fourth innings. His only knock in winning chase came against England on a flat patta with Sehwag winning the Motm.

Tendulkar retirement because it was end of the era (VVS, Dravid retired a year and a half before him, even Sehwag in 2013 BGT). 

 

Almost all our highly rated batsmen are 4th innings chokers, even those with better numbers never finished the chases. That is why we have the worst 4th innings chasing record among top 8 teams. 

 

Pant may be the sole exception. Even in Mumbai test against NZ last year, he almost singlehandedly chased it down before getting a howler from TV umpire Reiffel. 

[Gollum]

7 minutes ago, Adamant said:

To all the Tendulkar fans out here, let's test your aukaad, show me one match winning knock of Sachin against non minnows in an icc world cup ko.

 

Actually just tell me one icc ko knock that was better than Kohlis 90 odd vs Aus in CT this year.

 

2011 QF/SF were not KOs?

 

Coming to ICC KOs, his 141 against Aussies in the inaugural mini WC. Even his 2000 Nairobi assault on McGrath was as good or better than Sehwag's blitz against Gul in Mohali. 

 

Didn't play that many KOs, but FWIW, can't blame him for 1996 SF loss, he played a blinder but zero support. Was set for a 100 in 2000 CT final but got run out by Ganguly. 

 

No need to get defensive or triggered at the mention of Tendulkar. 

Edited July 17, 2025 by Gollum