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Till now we HAD lot of friction with china. How is the future going to be? 

 

I am of the opinion that India is too diverse to have a one dimensional policy.

 

My thesis would be that CCP would try to woo Sangh parivar and affiliated hindu RW groups.  These groups have a very mixed opinion of the west and they would certainly be open to greater partnership with yet an another Orientalist society.   The only thorn is the close partnership of china with Pook's. But seeing the economic implosion of pakistan, who would want to tag with it in the future?

 

West would partner with the india's minority/feminist groups on whom they can play victim card and extend the hegemony.  

 

What do ICF'ers think?

 

 

 

singhvivek141 Grand Master

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There isn't going to be a conclusive policy atleast till 2035.

 

US & China are effectively 2 groups right now...and they will need the other major powers like Russia, India in their camp to keep the upper hand.

 

US, being a bigger economy and stronger military, may believe from time to time that they may get away even w/o needing them. But for China, its a must to have atleast one in their side.

 

CCP & RSS wont go together. If they do, then Indian Communists will look like a fool and might loose all the ground. Communism is a hard-core enemy of right wing (which they believe BJP & RSS are).

 

 

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Nothing has changed wrt CCP. They don't like India and we shouldn't like them either. They have expansionist tendencies and look down on us. Currently we are forced to make it look like we are together against Trump and MAGA USA. Things will be back to their hostile best soon. This is just an intermission. 

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49 minutes ago, bharathh said:

Nothing has changed wrt CCP. They don't like India and we shouldn't like them either. They have expansionist tendencies and look down on us. Currently we are forced to make it look like we are together against Trump and MAGA USA. Things will be back to their hostile best soon. This is just an intermission. 

Exactly, for all the issues with USA they haven’t attacked India directly, killed our ppl, or coveted Indian land. They want India to be a vassal which isn’t acceptable for India.

 

India cannot be seen to be alone when a superpower Is pressuring it, for China this is a golden opportunity to take the Indian treat & make into something manageable.

 

this is a marriage of convenience, US & India might patch things up. CCP might mess things up. All bets are off wrt to predicting the future.

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kepler37b Grand Master

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2 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

There isn't going to be a conclusive policy atleast till 2035.

 

US & China are effectively 2 groups right now...and they will need the other major powers like Russia, India in their camp to keep the upper hand.

 

US, being a bigger economy and stronger military, may believe from time to time that they may get away even w/o needing them. But for China, its a must to have atleast one in their side.

 

CCP & RSS wont go together. If they do, then Indian Communists will look like a fool and might loose all the ground. Communism is a hard-core enemy of right wing (which they believe BJP & RSS are).

 

 

CCP is only communist in name. 

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Mariyam Grand Master

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7 hours ago, kepler37b said:

CCP is only communist in name. 

It is also a 'party' only in name.

 

It is more like a gang. Only the top bosses decide who joins and who doesnt. 

kepler37b Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Mariyam said:

It is also a 'party' only in name.

 

It is more like a gang. Only the top bosses decide who joins and who doesnt. 

 

The politburo of about 10 members is the most powerful. As in any other party.

 

But here, xi jinping has made all the other people irrelevant. Thats the sad part.

kepler37b Grand Master

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7 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

I read somewhere that China is a political rival for us but US is a civilizational one.

 

China can't influence Indian regional politics nor our demographics yet but US can.

 

 

The geo politics is going to be very complex in coming days.

 

I expect a part of india to be amenable to chinese and another to west.

 

 

singhvivek141 Grand Master

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9 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

I read somewhere that China is a political rival for us but US is a civilizational one.

 

China can't influence Indian regional politics nor our demographics yet but US can.

 

 

Somewhere its true.

US has the ultimate goal of Christianization or if I shall say Abrahamize the entire world.

India being the epicenter of polytheism...is biggest hurdle to it.

US has already wiped the indigenous culture of Japan, South Korea, Phillipines. They tried the same in Vietnam but failed.

 

China, doesnt have that ambitions. It does want to show power projection and kinda keep India under its sphere of influence. It considers itself as the king of entire South East Asia and wants its piece of pie.

 

 

randomGuy Grand Master

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10 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

I read somewhere that China is a political rival for us but US is a civilizational one.

 

China can't influence Indian regional politics nor our demographics yet but US can.

 

 

I have suspicion that Sumit Jain has insider info into PMO.. or rather PMO speaks through him. Do listen to him from time to time..

 

coffee_rules Grand Master

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On 9/1/2025 at 11:04 PM, kepler37b said:

Till now we HAD lot of friction with china. How is the future going to be? 

 

I am of the opinion that India is too diverse to have a one dimensional policy.

 

My thesis would be that CCP would try to woo Sangh parivar and affiliated hindu RW groups.  These groups have a very mixed opinion of the west and they would certainly be open to greater partnership with yet an another Orientalist society.   The only thorn is the close partnership of china with Pook's. But seeing the economic implosion of pakistan, who would want to tag with it in the future?

 

West would partner with the india's minority/feminist groups on whom they can play victim card and extend the hegemony.  

 

What do ICF'ers think?

 

 

 

 

 

Where do you see any connection of Hindu RW groups with CCP? RSS/Hindu groups hate Vaampanti. And the opposite is also true. 

Congress/INC Royal Family has a MOU with CCP, god knows why. CPI/CPM has an umbilical cord connection to CCP , they owe their allegiance to CCP , even during the 1962 war. Look at their manifesto. 

 

India will have a strategic alliance/partnership just based on some specific policies, but we can never trust the pinkos as they have expansionist aspirations and have an eye out to get India's terriroty.

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2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

 

 

Where do you see any connection of Hindu RW groups with CCP? RSS/Hindu groups hate Vaampanti. And the opposite is also true. 

Congress/INC Royal Family has a MOU with CCP, god knows why. CPI/CPM has an umbilical chord connection to CCP , they owe their allegiance to CCP , even during the 1962 war. Look at their manifesto. 

 

India will have a strategic alliance/partnership just based on some specific policies, but we can never trust the pinkos as they have expansionist aspirations and have an eye out to get India's terriroty.

As i said earlier, modern CCP is nothing about communism. 

 

There is a strong anti-western under-current among the sangh parivaar. Rightly so. Every western power tried to propagate a monotheism. This is why i feel, in absence of the border dispute, they will be amenable to greater partnership with CCP. 

 

 

coffee_rules Grand Master

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22 hours ago, cowboysfan said:

Trusting the US under republicans and especially Trump is foolish but trusting the Chinese will be a death sentence,it will be in our best interest to be non aligned.

Don't club Republicans and MAGA. Repubs under Bush and First Term Trump had as much good relations with India as much as Obama. Clinton with sanctions against India was much worse than Republicans. 

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52 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

As i said earlier, modern CCP is nothing about communism. 

 

There is a strong anti-western under-current among the sangh parivaar. Rightly so. Every western power tried to propagate a monotheism. This is why i feel, in absence of the border dispute, they will be amenable to greater partnership with CCP. 

 

 

But, there are basic trust issues with China. So, no question of partnerships

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On 9/2/2025 at 8:34 AM, kepler37b said:

Till now we HAD lot of friction with china. How is the future going to be? 

 

I am of the opinion that India is too diverse to have a one dimensional policy.

 

My thesis would be that CCP would try to woo Sangh parivar and affiliated hindu RW groups.  These groups have a very mixed opinion of the west and they would certainly be open to greater partnership with yet an another Orientalist society.   The only thorn is the close partnership of china with Pook's. But seeing the economic implosion of pakistan, who would want to tag with it in the future?

 

West would partner with the india's minority/feminist groups on whom they can play victim card and extend the hegemony.  

 

What do ICF'ers think?

Dont think china is looking for any long term partnership with India. Just wants to keep enough disturbance on Indian border which neither upsets us nor keep us relaxed. 

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On 9/5/2025 at 11:55 AM, jf1gp_1 said:

Dont think china is looking for any long term partnership with India. Just wants to keep enough disturbance on Indian border which neither upsets us nor keep us relaxed. 

Dhoti shivering among nationalists has begun... Vishwaguru getting cooked in comments 

 

 

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