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Under Kohli and Dhoni - India were invincible at home -whitewashing teams for fun … India’s home test dominating records have been destroyed by Gambhir


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I remember there was a time when we lost just 1 test match in a decade at home. It was a record that was multiple times better than Aussie dominance in their own backyard.

 

Such an enviable pristine record has been absolutely destroyed by Gambhir and his idiotic stubborn approach. First a home whitewash by *ing kiwis and now this. 
 

Madarchowd KL Rahul averages 35 after playing 60 plus test matches. First throw out this bastard from the side. 

Posted

No one in country can play spin anymore... That's the reality.  Ranji Trophy is below average with the kind of surfaces we see in domestic cricket.

 

SA always had raw talent now with SA20 and Kolpak gone they are going to be a force to be reckoned with. Their A side thrashed our near full strength side in the 4 day game.

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Dhoni got exposed the moment guys like sachin and Sehwag were not at their best even at home.England 2012 was prime example. I would not call Dhoni as some great captain. He had no clue to how to use fast bowlers at home once Zak faded away.

 

Posted
57 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Dhoni got exposed the moment guys like sachin and Sehwag were not at their best even at home.England 2012 was prime example. I would not call Dhoni as some great captain. He had no clue to how to use fast bowlers at home once Zak faded away.

 

But still msd time better than this at home and we only lost one series at home at the moment we likely to lose this series to

Posted
2 hours ago, maniac said:

Dhoni lost home series vs England and got trashed in Aus and England. Let’s  not confuse Dhoni’s test and loi performance.

 

The Fletchoni years. Brings a tear to your eye.

 

However Gambhir is on track to lose 2 home series. Pathetic coach with the reverse Midas touch.

Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I don't think it is just coaching, his presence is making everyone uneasy,

The cardinal rule in cricket is that the captain is the ultimate boss, not the coach. Good coaches like Shastri and Kirsten understood that and happily played second fiddle allowing Kohli/MSD to lead the way, while Kapil, Chappell didn't, and we saw how their teams fared. Same true for other successful teams, like 2000s Aus and RSA, Morgan's white ball England. Does anyone even know the name of Aussie coach when they won the 23 WC? Very few I assume, because he worked in the shadows. Even when Buchanan (cricket's Phil Jackson in terms of results) got too big for his boots, Shane Warne took him down a notch. 

 

GG is the polar opposite. If you saw the T20I series recently, he was barking instructions at SKY (during one of the rain intervals) who stood before him like an obedient student, head down, arms folded in front of his chest, which is a defensive posture, and not that between equals. Quite clear that GG calls all shots, and captain has to simply abide by them, those are his terms and even Rohit couldn't overrule him in the NZ home series when seniors wanted balanced tracks for Pune/Mumbai. 

 

To some extent I am seeing this in English cricket where Baz has been put on a pedestal by ECB, media, fans, which is one of the reasons I think they are underachieveing. Though not as bad as India, because Stokes is still a powerful voice who can challenge/overrule Baz if he required, with zero repercussions. 

 

People must remember that cricket isn't field hockey or football (both American and ROTW versions) where decisions are made from the dugout or dressing room. Cricket is a slow game where captain has enough time to make majority decisions on the go, independent of what those outside the field think. Often too many variables at play in cricket which can't be simulated from outside or in a laptop, suddenly a change in wind direction (which will force changes in field setting, bowler ends), niggle picked by an important player or overcast conditions can drastically change the nature of the game and only those in the thick of it can best absorb what is happening. Also helps that cricket captain isn't always out of breath unlike say hockey where a Harmanpreet Singh is sprinting up and down across the field whole 60 minutes, often without even knowing what is happening in the other side of the field because the play is so fast and chaotic. 

Edited by Gollum
Posted
14 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I don't think it is just coaching, his presence , politics, jingoism what ever you call it looks is making everyone uneasy in dressing room.

chopping and changing never help player and gg like a bossy type person that's never works 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Gollum said:

The cardinal rule in cricket is that the captain is the ultimate boss, not the coach. Good coaches like Shastri and Kirsten understood that and happily played second fiddle allowing Kohli/MSD to lead the way, while Kapil, Chappell didn't, and we saw how their teams fared. Same true for other successful teams, like 2000s Aus and RSA, Morgan's white ball England. Does anyone even know the name of Aussie coach when they won the 23 WC? Very few I assume, because he worked in the shadows. Even when Buchanan (cricket's Phil Jackson in terms of results) got too big for his boots, Shane Warne took him down a notch. 

 

GG is the polar opposite. If you saw the T20I series recently, he was barking instructions at SKY (during one of the rain intervals) who stood before him like an obedient student, head down, arms folded in front of his chest, which is a defensive posture, and not that between equals. Quite clear that GG calls all shots, and captain has to simply abide by them, those are his terms and even Rohit couldn't overrule him in the NZ home series when seniors wanted balanced tracks for Pune/Mumbai. 

 

To some extent I am seeing this in English cricket where Baz has been put on a pedestal by ECB, media, fans, which is one of the reasons I think they are underachieveing. Though not as bad as India, because Stokes is still a powerful voice who can challenge/overrule Baz if he required, with zero repercussions. 

 

People must remember that cricket isn't field hockey or football (both American and ROTW versions) where decisions are made from the dugout or dressing room. Cricket is a slow game where captain has enough time to make majority decisions on the go, independent of what those outside the field think. Often too many variables at play in cricket which can't be simulated from outside or in a laptop, suddenly a change in wind direction (which will force changes in field setting, bowler ends), niggle picked by an important player or overcast conditions can drastically change the nature of the game and only those in the thick of it can best absorb what is happening. Also helps that cricket captain isn't always out of breath unlike say hockey where a Harmanpreet Singh is sprinting up and down across the field whole 60 minutes, often without even knowing what is happening in the other side of the field because the play is so fast and chaotic. 

 That's why he want gill as the captain he want puppet captain gg coaching stint will end ugly

Posted
2 minutes ago, Gollum said:

The cardinal rule in cricket is that the captain is the ultimate boss, not the coach. Good coaches like Shastri and Kirsten understood that and happily played second fiddle allowing Kohli/MSD to lead the way, while Kapil, Chappell didn't, and we saw how their teams fared. Same true for other successful teams, like 2000s Aus and RSA, Morgan's white ball England. Does anyone even know the name of Aussie coach when they won the 23 WC? Very few I assume, because he worked in the shadows. Even when Buchanan (cricket's Phil Jackson in terms of results) got too big for his boots, Shane Warne took him down a notch. 

 

GG is the polar opposite. If you saw the T20I series recently, he was barking instructions at SKY (during one of the rain intervals) who stood before him like an obedient student, head down, arms folded in front of his chest, which is a defensive posture, and not that between equals. Quite clear that GG calls all shots, and captain has to simply abide by them, those are his terms and even Rohit couldn't overrule him in the NZ home series when seniors wanted balanced tracks for Pune/Mumbai. 

 

To some extent I am seeing this in English cricket where Baz has been put on a pedestal by ECB, media, fans, which is one of the reasons I think they are underachieveing. Though not as bad as India, because Stokes is still a powerful voice who can challenge/overrule Baz if he required, with zero repercussions. 

 

People must remember that cricket isn't field hockey or football (both American and ROTW versions) where decisions are made from the dugout or dressing room. Cricket is a slow game where captain has enough time to make majority decisions on the go, independent of what those outside the field think. Often too many variables at play in cricket which can't be simulated from outside or in a laptop, suddenly a change in wind direction, niggle picked by an important player or weather conditions can drastically change the nature of the game and only those in the thick of it can best absorb what is happening. Also helps that cricket captain isn't always out of breath unlike say hockey where a Harmanpreet Singh is sprinting up and down across the field whole 60 minutes, often without even knowing what is happening in the other side of the field because the play is so fast and chaotic. 

100% correct captain is the boss. 

 

I think he wanted Gill to be his puppet so he can pull all strings, otherwise there was no need to get rid of Rohit as a captain in odis. Rohit has led India to three straigtht white ball finals and had one loss.

 

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, putrevus said:

100% correct captain is the boss. 

 

I think he wanted Gill to be his puppet so he can pull all strings, otherwise there was no need to get rid of Rohit as a captain in odis. Rohit has led India to three straigtht white ball finals and had one loss.

 

 

 

Creepy puppet master dude just destroying indian cricket

Posted

We had mixed pitches. Under Gambhir we have played 4 test at home

 

Bangalore test - under the cover. Excessive seam movement. India chose to bat first

 

All the remaining tests proper dust bowl. - India lost all 3 tosses

 

 

Posted

Since 2013 India have lost 8 matches at home, 5 in just 2 years, 4 under GG as coach:

 

1 VS AUS (2017)

1 VS ENG (2021)

1 VS AUS (2023)

1 VS ENG (2024)

3 VS NZ (2024) 

1 VS SA (2025)

 

NZ Defeat is a shocker really.

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