Shami will be missed the most among all players.

[vvvslaxman]

Shami is going to be an irreplaceable commodity. Facts and figures show that clearly.

 

Let us look at bowling stats of each country in the last 3  ODI world cups

 

 

Bowling Averages of Each team in last 3 world cups

 

 

 

Bowling Averages of Pace bowling unit for each team in the last 3 world cups

 

 

Bowling averages of spin bowling of each team in the last 3 world cups. India is the second best after SA

 

 

Wicket tally  in the last 3 world cups.  

 

 

 

SHami played 10 matches less than starc took only 10 less than him.  On an average he takes 3 wickets plus per match. That is mind bogglig number. To quantify the staggering achievement of Shami we have to look workload/output ratio.

 

India bowled 1241 overs and took 245 wickets including run outs in the last 3 world cups

Shami bowled 145 overs and took 55 wickets

 

Shami bowled 11% of the overs and took 22% of the wickets. Almost 1/4th of the wickets.

As a comparison to the next best

Bumrah bowled 14% of the overs and took 15% of the wickets

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Texy]

is he injured why not playing? We missed him in tests for sure

[Lord]

1 hour ago, Texy said:

is he injured why not playing? We missed him in tests for sure

 

He's playing domestics but Agarkar said he;s unfit

[Lord]

Missing him now is different thing, but we didn;t use him well at his peak too.

 

Bhuvi replaced an inform Shami in WC 19 semi. Didn't play CT 17.

[vvvslaxman]

3 minutes ago, Lord said:

Missing him now is different thing, but we didn;t use him well at his peak too.

 

Bhuvi replaced an inform Shami in WC 19 semi. Didn't play CT 17.

Yea.. He is a GOAT contender. 

[Suhaan]

6 hours ago, Lord said:

Missing him now is different thing, but we didn;t use him well at his peak too.

 

Bhuvi replaced an inform Shami in WC 19 semi. Didn't play CT 17.

Even in last WC only came into picture after Pandya got sidelined 

 

 

[Suhaan]

He was complete bowler for us in big tournaments

Had pace,GOAT wicket taking ability

I find him among top 5 best odi pace bowler ever,perhaps only behind Akram from Asia or just about equal

[vvvslaxman]

17 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Even in last WC only came into picture after Pandya got sidelined 

 

 

Remember Afghanistan was on the verge of upset in 2019. He took a hatrick.in 40th over. CIutch.

[AKane]

8 hours ago, Lord said:

Missing him now is different thing, but we didn;t use him well at his peak too.

 

Bhuvi replaced an inform Shami in WC 19 semi. Didn't play CT 17.

He was good in WC 2015 as well .... ironically until the semi. He played that semi. Contributed 0 wickets. 

 

Bowling	O	M	R	W	ECON	0s	4s	6s	WD	NB
Mohammed Shami	10	0	68	0	6.80	32	9	1	2	0
Umesh Yadav	9	0	72	4	8.00	30	11	2	4	0
Mohit Sharma	10	0	75	2	7.50	24	8	2	0	0

[vvvslaxman]

14 minutes ago, AKane said:

He was good in WC 2015 as well .... ironically until the semi. He played that semi. Contributed 0 wickets. 

 

Bowling	O	M	R	W	ECON	0s	4s	6s	WD	NB
Mohammed Shami	10	0	68	0	6.80	32	9	1	2	0
Umesh Yadav	9	0	72	4	8.00	30	11	2	4	0
Mohit Sharma	10	0	75	2	7.50	24	8	2	0	0

His first 5 overs only went for 16 runs. Umesh was leaking runs at other end. Batsmen were well set when Shami returned.

[nevada]

Shami is badly missed in ODIs as well as tests. He could make something happen even with the old ball.  Bumrah is the only world class bowler we have now and he is always one injury away from getting sidelined. If we lose him, our bowling drops to minnow level! Instead of identifying and backing new talents in bowling, we are fixated with having a team full of "all-rounders". You keep doing mediocre things, your results will remain mediocre or even worse as is happening right now.

[bowl_out]

16 hours ago, Lord said:

Missing him now is different thing, but we didn;t use him well at his peak too.

 

Bhuvi replaced an inform Shami in WC 19 semi. Didn't play CT 17.

 

Even in the '23 WC, he didn't start. He came into the XI only because Pandya got injured.

Even in the final, he was suddenly made to bowl with the new ball when he was bowling as first change through the tournament, and he barely had any control with the new ball.

 

So many brain dead decisions.

Edited December 1, 2025 by bowl_out

[AKane]

10 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

His first 5 overs only went for 16 runs. Umesh was leaking runs at other end. Batsmen were well set when Shami returned.

Out of the first 4 wickets that fell at score 233 in 38 overs, Umesh took 3. Shami contributed 0 in the whole match.

 

[AKane]

10 hours ago, nevada said:

Bumrah is the only world class bowler we have now and he is always one injury away from getting sidelined. If we lose him, our bowling drops to minnow level! Instead of identifying and backing new talents in bowling, we are fixated with having a team full of "all-rounders".

Interestingly both tests won in England were with Bumrah not playing and the minnow level bowlers bowling......

[vvvslaxman]

13 minutes ago, AKane said:

Out of the first 4 wickets that fell at score 233 in 38 overs, Umesh took 3. Shami contributed 0 in the whole match.

 

They were all expensive. SCG had nothing to offer for seamers. It was a battathon we lost against huge scoreboard pressure much like CT2017.

 

[vvvslaxman]

Seam movement >>  Swing or pace. Because you have very very little time to react once the ball moves off the seam. You don't see that coming. When you see it it is already late. That is where Shami is deadly dangerous. He lands it on a length with accuracy. That element of threat is missing. Akash lacks the speed that Shami had.  Currently we don't have banana swing bowlers or seam bowlers. Mostly hit the deck bowlers, scrambled seam bowler, floaters.

[AKane]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

They were all expensive. SCG had nothing to offer for seamers. It was a battathon we lost against huge scoreboard pressure much like CT2017.

 

Shami was the worst that day - had he contributed a couple of wickets, it might have been different.  Even Mohit Sharma contributed a couple of wickets.

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, AKane said:

Shami was the worst that day - had he contributed a couple of wickets, it might have been different.  Even Mohit Sharma contributed a couple of wickets.

 

His spell was 8 overs 42 runs. Hardly travelled. India didn't have better second seamer. They played Shami cautiously early on. He wasn't the worst

Edited December 1, 2025 by vvvslaxman

[AKane]

2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

They played Shami cautiously early on.

maybe - but not later on and still no wickets. 

 

Between the two teams all pace bowlers got wickets Umesh, Sharma, Starc, Hazelwood, Mitch Johnson and Faulkner.

 

The two who got no wickets were Shami and Watson.

[vvvslaxman]

12 minutes ago, AKane said:

maybe - but not later on and still no wickets. 

 

Between the two teams all pace bowlers got wickets Umesh, Sharma, Starc, Hazelwood, Mitch Johnson and Faulkner.

 

The two who got no wickets were Shami and Watson.

 

Yea.. but we succumbed to scoreboard pressure more than anything else. We just choked. SCG is typically a friendly wicket for subcontinent teams. We started well and superstars went missing.