gakgupta Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Off late sanju was given a raw deal.. after the t20 heroics, will be be given a odi cap? Is he worth it?
vvvslaxman Posted March 27 Posted March 27 He was always used as a back up with Kohli, Rohit , Rahul occupying key spots. Gill became a sure starter 2 years back. Then Iyer. Right time to kick out Kela.
singhvivek141 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Where he will bat is a question. He has done well in top 3...coz strike rotation isnt his best of skills. But we have Rohit & Kohli in top 3 with only one place for a player, who currently in Gill, the captain. jf1gp_1 1
vvvslaxman Posted March 27 Posted March 27 30 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Where he will bat is a question. He has done well in top 3...coz strike rotation isnt his best of skills. But we have Rohit & Kohli in top 3 with only one place for a player, who currently in Gill, the captain. He is not that bad. He has more or less the same numbers as the guy he will replace. Also he has much higher gear than Kela. He can peel off a 25 run over just like that. BacktoCricaddict 1
cricspirit Posted March 28 Posted March 28 So hard to find spots in ODI team with ROKO stil around. Gill is Captain and wont sacrifice. KL probably better at no.5/6 than Sanju is. Not sure how We can fit more than 2 of a big list of players.. Sanju, Jaiswal, Iyer, Tilak, Parag, Kishan, Ruturaj etc. All rounders start at 7. I will personally have Jaiswal as opener and Iyer in middle. Jaiswal Rohit Virat Gill Iyer Rahul Hardik Axar Sanju can replace Rohit and Tilak can replace Virat when they go. Or if they get injured. Others are injury backups.
jf1gp_1 Posted March 28 Posted March 28 Question for me is can the likes of Rohit, Virat and Rahul in ODI be effective against team which have the likes off brook and bethal tapandrun 1
tapandrun Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) No there is no point of him in Odis, he will again struggle in mo as he did in t20s. With the Odi teams set-up where is he going to bat at#7 ....?? what is the point of this. ppl here argue here that selectors and tm should not confuse and mix between the formats and now are suggesting the same now because sanju found success in T20is at opening slot. For odi wc Ind need a LH mo-batter who can bowl a bit , a fast bowling all rounder and may be near express pacer. Edited March 28 by tapandrun rollingstoned 1
vvvslaxman Posted March 28 Posted March 28 37 minutes ago, tapandrun said: No there is no point of him in Odis, he will again struggle in mo as he did in t20s. With the Odi teams set-up where is he going to bat at#7 ....?? what is the point of this. ppl here argue here that selectors and tm should not confuse and mix between the formats and now are suggesting the same now because sanju found success in T20is at opening slot. For odi wc Ind need a LH mo-batter who can bowl a bit , a fast bowling all rounder and may be near express pacer. Actually he was a better ODI player than T20 player for a long time. In T20 he was always inconsistent until he was given a specific role of going after bowling. I think he was confused about his role for a long time. Besides hhe has one of the most risk free game as he plays conventional shots all around the dial. I don't trust this kela in crunch games. He effectively kills the momentum and buries us consistentl. If you look at strike rate of KL rahul in ICC tournament against no minnows it is ancient. In the batting fest 2019 world cup his strike rate was 78 against big teams. Same in T20 world cups as well.
Nikhil_cric Posted March 28 Posted March 28 Not a priority in ODIs currently. No greater priority than getting Parag or someone similar to bat at #6 and give us that 6th bowling option. rollingstoned and tapandrun 2
tapandrun Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) 34 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Actually he was a better ODI player than T20 player for a long time. In T20 he was always inconsistent until he was given a specific role of going after bowling. I think he was confused about his role for a long time. Besides hhe has one of the most risk free game as he plays conventional shots all around the dial. I don't trust this kela in crunch games. He effectively kills the momentum and buries us consistentl. If you look at strike rate of KL rahul in ICC tournament against no minnows it is ancient. In the batting fest 2019 world cup his strike rate was 78 against big teams. Same in T20 world cups as well. Saju mistimes the ball alot, only these 3-4 games he has been near flawless, that the reason he was/is inconsistent. Opening slot gave him the cushion that if the shot is mistimed it will cross the inner circle and land in no-man's land thts why opening suites him, he can get stars even if he mistimes and once he is settled he can hit both pace and spin. Yes kl does not inspire alot of confidence to the viewer when he is batting specially in big games. Apart from many other reasons why he is still in the side is because his batting style (based on bilaterals) suites other mo batters like kolhi and iyer. middle order batter works in pair, both player need to trust each-others game and there should be strike rotation. Apart from getting stuck in big games look at how he compliments Kolhi or Iyer. Not making case fr Kl but trying to tell why he is in the side and why other options (like pant, sanju, verma ) are not that viable. Plus the big games where KL chocked other top batter chocked too. Kl can rotate strike, does not hit weak shots in the air. The other options are the ones who can not rotate strike and will play a meaning less shot in the air and get out. But then KL does the same in big games.that why Ind should have developed few more wk-batters for odis and now that kl is wk-batter in odi Ind needs a lh mo batter (preferably can bowl a bit) for this odi wc. Edited March 28 by tapandrun
putrevus Posted March 30 Posted March 30 On 3/28/2026 at 1:22 AM, tapandrun said: Saju mistimes the ball alot, only these 3-4 games he has been near flawless, that the reason he was/is inconsistent. Opening slot gave him the cushion that if the shot is mistimed it will cross the inner circle and land in no-man's land thts why opening suites him, he can get stars even if he mistimes and once he is settled he can hit both pace and spin. Yes kl does not inspire alot of confidence to the viewer when he is batting specially in big games. Apart from many other reasons why he is still in the side is because his batting style (based on bilaterals) suites other mo batters like kolhi and iyer. middle order batter works in pair, both player need to trust each-others game and there should be strike rotation. Apart from getting stuck in big games look at how he compliments Kolhi or Iyer. Not making case fr Kl but trying to tell why he is in the side and why other options (like pant, sanju, verma ) are not that viable. Plus the big games where KL chocked other top batter chocked too. Kl can rotate strike, does not hit weak shots in the air. The other options are the ones who can not rotate strike and will play a meaning less shot in the air and get out. But then KL does the same in big games.that why Ind should have developed few more wk-batters for odis and now that kl is wk-batter in odi Ind needs a lh mo batter (preferably can bowl a bit) for this odi wc. After his innings in finals he should have been kicked out permanently. If top order clicks there is no need for him to do anything. They went with one loss in two major tournaments 50 over tournaments where he has played support role on his best days. He has consistently choked in big matches in all formats.T20 team became instantly better once this choker was kicked out of the team. As a finisher he lacks the ability to go hard from ball one as proven in recent two Odis series.When platform was set also he was batting at 100 SR. tapandrun 1
AKane Posted March 30 Posted March 30 (edited) On 3/28/2026 at 12:22 AM, tapandrun said: Not making case fr Kl but trying to tell why he is in the side and why other options (like pant, sanju, verma ) are not that viable. Plus the big games where KL chocked other top batter chocked too. Kl can rotate strike, does not hit weak shots in the air. The other options are the ones who can not rotate strike and will play a meaning less shot in the air and get out. I would say you are making a good "case" for the peerless KL. Not even a paid lawyer can do much better.... Edited March 30 by AKane tapandrun 1
tapandrun Posted March 30 Posted March 30 2 minutes ago, AKane said: I would say you are making a good "case" for the peerless KL. Not even a paid lawyer can do much better.... You have to find a logic why he is in the side after botching up 2 WCs, these are the 2 cases one can think of. Do not think there can be any1 else who can escape 2 wc losses. Even Kolhi was asked to give up captaincy. There are only few cricketing reasons :: Other failed as well in big games Other options available to Ind at this time are not good or suited to Odis
Mjcricket Posted March 30 Posted March 30 Sanju Tilak Kishan. He may not get to play though. Rohit Gill and Rahul are there. Ultimate_Game 1
Lord Posted March 30 Posted March 30 On 3/27/2026 at 9:23 AM, singhvivek141 said: Where he will bat is a question. He has done well in top 3...coz strike rotation isnt his best of skills. But we have Rohit & Kohli in top 3 with only one place for a player, who currently in Gill, the captain. Yes thats why I am still hoping for Pant to hit form. Or Kishan can bat 5-6 like he did in Asia Cup
tapandrun Posted March 30 Posted March 30 (edited) On 3/27/2026 at 9:54 AM, vvvslaxman said: He is not that bad. He has more or less the same numbers as the guy he will replace. Also he has much higher gear than Kela. He can peel off a 25 run over just like that. Issue with all these datas these days is that KL and Iyer have played vs better opp and Sanju mostly played vs b/c level opp. Its hard for sanju to play at 5, saw that in T20is where he (almost) lost his place in the side.He is not a middle order batter, Ind has to make better choices with top5/6 already locked. Parag could be better option as he can bowl few overs and has been playing middle order or lower middle order all his career. He just able to cement his place in t20is let him play there and concentrate there, thats the whole issue here if some1 does well in 1 format , every1 wants to see them in all format, regardless the utility and role. They added sky in odi side who had no role and no utility, he was not a finisher he is still some1 who does not have much power game he uses various angles to hit the ball for 4/6 but lacks the power game which is evident in his t20 stroke play too ,how can he hit and older ball when its bowled at yorkish length. Edited March 30 by tapandrun
Texy Posted March 31 Posted March 31 always felt Manish Pandey should've received a longer rope in ODi's ... still remember his century, then vanished Lord 1
Ultimate_Game Posted March 31 Posted March 31 6 minutes ago, Texy said: always felt Manish Pandey should've received a longer rope in ODi's ... still remember his century, then vanished Naah wasn't that good. Better than Rahane but that's about it. Simply didn't have the game for LOIs.
Lord Posted March 31 Posted March 31 30 minutes ago, Texy said: always felt Manish Pandey should've received a longer rope in ODi's ... still remember his century, then vanished Yep was thinking same. Also a brilliant fielder. Perhaps Jadeja level or better
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