govinda Posted June 23 Posted June 23 Iam extremely worried about my mother tounge telugu. I am not blaming other state people who imigrate here but my own people. Many kids these days can't read and write telugu despite of govts of tg&ap making telugu compulsary cbse schools are not teaching the language. Many parents are more egar to talk with their kids in english rather telugu. Gen z cant complete a sentence with few english words. I have heard same is happening with marthi and kannda kids with prents prefering english over their respective mother tounge. I worry about our languages diga and singhvivek141 2
diga Posted June 23 Posted June 23 Yep... People are freely using English, Hindi or Tamil words extensively while speaking in Kannada. It increases the vocabulary but we tend to forget basic kannada words
Lone Wolf Posted June 23 Posted June 23 21 minutes ago, govinda said: Iam extremely worried about my mother tounge telugu. I am not blaming other state people who imigrate here but my own people. Many kids these days can't read and write telugu despite of govts of tg&ap making telugu compulsary cbse schools are not teaching the language. Many parents are more egar to talk with their kids in english rather telugu. Gen z cant complete a sentence with few english words. I have heard same is happening with marthi and kannda kids with prents prefering english over their respective mother tounge. I worry about our languages It is the same with most regional languages. English is getting mainstreamed for younger gen everywhere
singhvivek141 Posted June 23 Posted June 23 59 minutes ago, govinda said: Iam extremely worried about my mother tounge telugu. I am not blaming other state people who imigrate here but my own people. Many kids these days can't read and write telugu despite of govts of tg&ap making telugu compulsary cbse schools are not teaching the language. Many parents are more egar to talk with their kids in english rather telugu. Gen z cant complete a sentence with few english words. I have heard same is happening with marthi and kannda kids with prents prefering english over their respective mother tounge. I worry about our languages You're not wrong. This trend is everywhere from upper middle class onwards Many kids in my society can only write in English, they can read Hindi/Telugu and can speak in their mother tongue, but there is no fluency in that and they're more comfortable with English. One reason I see is the rise of youtube shows in English, our consumption has rose multiple times during Covid and majority is in English. Kids watch these shows and develop the accent, which is appreciated by the parents. Even in schools apart from language teacher, everyone talk to kids in English only. Heck, even the aiamma's say "dont go out, sit in the class" to the kids.
jf1gp_1 Posted June 25 Posted June 25 Uttarakhand both languages will be gone in next 20years. It's now beyond recovery.
bowl_out Posted July 6 Posted July 6 The problem with our Central govt and ministers is that when they realize this and that kids are intermingling English with Hindi, they will come up with a ruling making Hindi learning mandatory for everyone, completely overlooking that English is going to same thing to the respective state languages as well. The right way to go is make state of residence language mandatory along with mother tongue and English. If state of residence language is the same as mother tongue, there is no need for a third language for those kids.
BacktoCricaddict Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) My contrarian point of view: Throughout history, languages have spread, merged, amalgamated and evolved by borrowing words from other languages, changing accents etc. And they will continue to do so. So, why see them as a static entity and impose purity principles when, in reality, they have always been dynamic? Would Prakrit speakers from 1000 BC recognize what we speak today? And would they be appalled at what they see? I hope not. Edited July 6 by BacktoCricaddict Lord 1
MechEng Posted July 7 Posted July 7 I am worried about language in general. Many people cannot even read and write in English also. What do you get from a person who doesnt know Hindi, Telugu, Tamil, Bengali, Marathi, English, Punjabi? Abbaaa Dabbaaa Jabbaaaaaa!!!.....
coffee_rules Posted July 7 Posted July 7 It’s the influence of pop culture, movies, TV, etc. See your Telugu movies, nobody can talk a line of Telugu without mixing with Hindi/English words with a posh accent. The less said about TV, it’s better. It is the same with all languages. The one trend that I’m seeing in the last few years is, local language content providers are pushing the language usage. Which is good for the language. I have seen many reels and shorts in many languages which are also popular and funny. SM content is the future of entertainment and movies and TV is losing out anyway Lord 1
singhvivek141 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 1 hour ago, randomGuy said: Sanskrit's revival is a must. Specially if India really wants to bring back its OG culture. Every language of India has influence of Sanskrit in it. Even the Countries like Thailand whose Airport is called as "Swarnabhumi". In Indonesia as well the president Megawati was called as "Sukarno putri" or the daughter of Sukarno. diga 1
vvvslaxman Posted July 8 Posted July 8 They are also butchering lyrics. They use gibberish language a lot more now.
randomGuy Posted July 8 Posted July 8 11 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Sanskrit's revival is a must. Specially if India really wants to bring back its OG culture. Every language of India has influence of Sanskrit in it. Even the Countries like Thailand whose Airport is called as "Swarnabhumi". In Indonesia as well the president Megawati was called as "Sukarno putri" or the daughter of Sukarno. languages come, go, evolve etc. Arnd 400-500 languages have gone extinct in last 50-60 years alone. But I guess regional languages don't have imminent danger due to regional media content etc. , as @coffee_rulesbro said, which will keep them alive. Regarding Sanskrit, you have it at school level but not many pursue it after 10th. Shudh Hindi is quite close to Sanskrit and gives nearly the same feel. coffee_rules 1
vvvslaxman Posted July 8 Posted July 8 INdia has 22 official languages. I expect them to survive. Official languages are less likely to become extinct. Hindi is official languages of India and Fiji Tamil is official languages of India, Sri lanka and Singapore Nepali is official languages of INdia and Nepal
zen Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Regional languages are being cannibalized (to varying degrees) by both English and Hindi. randomGuy 1
vvvslaxman Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Unless this is one of your language your language survive. Even if it dies you won't be alive to see that https://homegrown.co.in/homegrown-explore/10-fascinating-indian-languages-that-are-slowly-dying-out
BacktoCricaddict Posted July 8 Posted July 8 3 hours ago, randomGuy said: Regarding Sanskrit, you have it at school level but not many pursue it after 10th. Shudh Hindi is quite close to Sanskrit and gives nearly the same feel. Does Shudh Hindi have neuter gender? If not, it is not even close to the same feel. Just saying Kintu and Parantu doesn't cut it :-).
randomGuy Posted July 9 Posted July 9 5 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Does Shudh Hindi have neuter gender? If not, it is not even close to the same feel. Just saying Kintu and Parantu doesn't cut it :-). Grammer aside "In Shudh Hindi (also called Sanskritized Hindi or Sanskriti-nisth Hindi), the vocabulary similarity to Sanskrit is roughly 75% to 85%. If you isolate specialized formal, academic, or governmental registers, that number pushes closer to 95% to 100%."
coffee_rules Posted July 9 Posted July 9 11 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: INdia has 22 official languages. I expect them to survive. Official languages are less likely to become extinct. Hindi is official languages of India and Fiji Tamil is official languages of India, Sri lanka and Singapore Nepali is official languages of INdia and Nepal There are a lot of ethnic Tamils in Malaysia too. Is Tamil an official language there? I had been to Kaula Lumpur and Health interacted with a lot of local Tamils there, they had shared a lot of bad experiences of discrimination in Malaysia.
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