vvvslaxman Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2013/content/story/640623.html India v West Indies, Champions Trophy, Group B, The Oval Ashwin must continue to evolve The offspinner must build on his successes by continuing to evolve as the environment he plays in changes Nagraj Gollapudi June 10, 2013 India's second group match, against West Indies at The Oval, will be R Ashwin's 50th ODI. Over the last two years, he has grown into MS Dhoni's chief marksman and India's best bowler across all three formats. As a result, the expectations of Ashwin have grown too. After a successful home series against Australia - 29 wickets in four Tests - Ashwin had an average IPL season, taking 15 wickets in 18 matches with an economy of 6.72. By the standards he sets for himself, Ashwin's performance was slightly below par. He might not agree, pointing out that he bowled mostly in the pressure overs during the IPL and created wickets for his team-mates. That may be true, but it is also possible that batsmen have grown accustomed to reading Ashwin's hand and spotting the carom ball. Though Ashwin can still control the tempo most times, his opponents may not mind that as they capitalise against other bowlers. In the Champions Trophy opener against South Africa, Ashwin began bowling as early as the 13th over - just after the shine had worn off - and controlled the momentum of the game during his first spell, which spanned nine overs. During a crucial period of the game, he kept South Africa's middle order in check and forced the asking rate to rise. However, Ashwin did not push them into playing a false stroke and he finished wicketless - 0 for 47. Even in the first warm-up game, against Sri Lanka on a flat pitch, Ashwin did not strike. The new ODI rules of having a maximum of only four players outside the circle has affected bowling plans, especially for an attacking spinner like Ashwin. To counter this challenge, Dhoni said Ashwin needed to be flexible. "He is someone who loves to take wickets," Dhoni said on the eve of the game against West Indies. "Slowly he will realise that with the rule changes, spinners will not be looking for wickets, instead trying to keep it tight. Batsmen will look to make the most against the spinner with the extra fielder inside, and then you keep it tight and force the batsman to play the shots. They may commit a mistake or they might hit a ball that is not really there. That is how you can get a wicket." Ashwin is a thinking bowler who likes to set his own fields, and is aware of the match situation as well as the batsman's weakness. However, the frustration of not being among the wickets can get to anyone. He had said that the biggest challenge of playing all three formats was carrying the momentum from one to the other. "The onus is on him, on how he can come back and remain the braveheart and flight the ball at all times," Sunil Joshi, the former India spinner, said. "He should not get frustrated if he is not able to get wickets or a breakthrough." According to Joshi, Ashwin needs to out-guess the batsman, create doubts by having fielders at silly point or short leg. Put the ball in the batsman's court. That way the batsman might be forced into two minds, earning the bowler an opportunity of taking a wicket. "The idea is to see how the batsman accepts such a challenge: if he has a strong defence, he will wait for the ball and cut or pull on the back foot," Joshi said. "If he is not sure about his defence, he might commit a mistake." Batsmen might have got used to the carom ball, which Ashwin uses frequently, and one suggestion Joshi has is for him to use the arm ball in England. "It is easier to pitch an arm ball for an offspinner in English conditions. If the ball is not turning I always keep the batsmen guessing by making him guess which ball is going in." The need to evolve is constant and Ashwin can look to the world's leading offspinner for an example. About a year after his one-day debut, Saeed Ajmal was a one-dimensional bowler, reliant mostly on his doosra. Today, with his several variations, Ajmal's ability to influence the course of the match is pronounced. The key for a spinner is to keep the batsman guessing as to when you are going to bowl the stock ball, to set up a batsman and then attack him. In the nets, Ashwin is always telling batsmen where his fielders are and is challenging them to take him on. Expect him to rise to the challenge once again. Nagraj Gollapudi is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo Feeds: Nagraj Gollapudi © ESPN EMEA Ltd.
vvvslaxman Posted June 10, 2013 Author Posted June 10, 2013 Yup He has regressed somewhat. His wicket taking skills have taken a hit. Bhajji left the scene mainly for that. He has to get his act right in ODIs .
G_B_ Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 hmm he tries too much variation in the ODIs. In the test series v Aus he just stuck to the plan. Even the IPL when Watson tonked him in Rajasthan. Wtf was that bowling action?
vvvslaxman Posted June 10, 2013 Author Posted June 10, 2013 hmm he tries too much variation in the ODIs. In the test series v Aus he just stuck to the plan. Even the IPL when Watson tonked him in Rajasthan. Wtf was that bowling action? Now that experiment is over he has to get back on track sooner. Jadeja is doing a good job to cover his failures. But if Jadeja gets hit around that is when the problem starts for us.
saket123 Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 hmm he tries too much variation in the ODIs. In the test series v Aus he just stuck to the plan. Even the IPL when Watson tonked him in Rajasthan. Wtf was that bowling action? I think that's a "problem" I'll gladly have over someone who has no variation (Bhajji). He just needs to learn how to use his variations effectively (meaning.. using it at the right time and opportunity)
G_B_ Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 Sir has been bowling better than anybody in team India over the past 5-6 months. If that Oval wicket contains turn (and all indications are that it will) then I cant see Sir failing at Oval and Edgbaston. Ashwin has not been expensive. I wont say he should be dropped. His performances have been acceptable. He is a handy bat down the order. The pitches will offer turn at Oval and Edgbaston. Just put the ball in the right areas. Thats all which needs to be done.
putrevus Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 Bhajji was dropped just that reason not able to pick up wickets being a leader of the bowling attack. Bhajji who can contribute little more with bat in odis and is far better fielder if Ashwin cannot take wickets he should not be in team.
G_B_ Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 Just looked at Ashwin's stats his international t20 stats especially are poor. ODI stats are just about acceptable. But he needs wickets.
Fontaine Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 What an utterly useless and pointless article. What's the writer trying to say? That Ashwin isn't a champion bowler in ALL three formats. GTFO. Half the problem with cricket today is that every other *****hole with an opinion who's never played the game competively gets to throw up a bunch of crap about players that are.
CSK Fan Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 Bhajji was dropped just that reason not able to pick up wickets being a leader of the bowling attack. Bhajji who can contribute little more with bat in odis and is far better fielder if Ashwin cannot take wickets he should not be in team. Don't think bhajji can contribute more consistantly with the bat than Ashwin
Muloghonto Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 What an utterly useless and pointless article. What's the writer trying to say? That Ashwin isn't a champion bowler in ALL three formats. GTFO. Half the problem with cricket today is that every other *****hole with an opinion who's never played the game competively gets to throw up a bunch of crap about players that are. ++
gaurav92 Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 But he's already evolving .....around waist :hysterical:
velu Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 fatwin needs to know its not always funny to toss the ball against good players of spin
FischerTal Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 fatwin will one day evolve so much, that if you throw his jacket in the air, it will cause an eclipse. :giggle: PS: thank you will smith for that joke :nice:
Detonator Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 If he concentrates on fitness, he will be a far better cricketer than he is now..
saneindian Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 His ODI numbers for last 18 months do not inspire much confidence - 24 matches, 27 wickets@40, his batting too isn't as effective. A result of perhaps trying too many variations and not being attacking enough. Not sure why he should have a secured place in the ODIs with those numbers.
saket123 Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 AS long as he doesn't evolve physically, I'm OK with it.
cowboysfan Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 His ODI numbers for last 18 months do not inspire much confidence - 24 matches' date=' 27 wickets@40, his batting too isn't as effective. A result of perhaps trying too many variations and not being attacking enough. Not sure why he should have a secured place in the ODIs with those numbers.[/quote'] what about Umesh yadav? he has worse stats than Dernbach who many consider to be the worst ODI bowler right now.we are just hoping that Yadav can turn it around in LOI cricket because he can bowl fast but he is atrociously bad at bowling to his field,no wonder Dhoni has lost all his hair.
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