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Ease of Doing Business Rankings!!!!?!!??!

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Top 5: Andhra, Telangana, Haryana, Jharkhand, Gujarat 

 

Jharkhand comes out of nowhere and breaks into the top 5 :scream:

 

Goa, Punjab, Kerala, and especially Dehli need to improve  :nono:

 

 

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1 hour ago, Tibarn said:

Top 5: Andhra, Telangana, Haryana, Jharkhand, Gujarat 

 

Jharkhand comes out of nowhere and breaks into the top 5 :scream:

 

Goa, Punjab, Kerala, and especially Dehli need to improve  :nono:

 

 

 

This Kejri is doing worse than the communists in Kerala.

 

I have ot admit that it is surprisng that WB is number 10 on the list ahead of both TN and MH, although all 3 are in the good range according to the rankings. 

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9 hours ago, Moochad said:

 

This Kejri is doing worse than the communists in Kerala.

 

I have ot admit that it is surprisng that WB is number 10 on the list ahead of both TN and MH, although all 3 are in the good range according to the rankings. 

Big problem for WB is law and order, which never seems to have improved there, since independence. Old Mamata is at least doing a good effort on reforms aspect. 

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On 7/29/2018 at 8:13 AM, Tibarn said:

Big problem for WB is law and order, which never seems to have improved there, since independence. Old Mamata is at least doing a good effort on reforms aspect. 

Big is understatement. Even if you reform every econ policy, if there is no law and order, there will be no investment. 

 

We need better L&O all across India, otherwise we will not grow!

 

All Cattle smugglers,  hooligans, rioters etc, need to be kept in check

 

We need to largely increase our police force size

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@Tibarn

 

The construction ban has been lifted in Maharashtra and Uttarakhand.

 

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/mumbai/mumbai-relief-for-builders-homebuyers-as-apex-court-lifts-ban-on-construction-5342228/

 

I know where you are coming from, but in this case a suo moto was due. There are many studies highlighting absolute disregard for any kind of treatment of construction waste. This ban-unban drama will actually shake the State Governments into formulating a meaningful waste management policy. 

 

The builders are generally extremely lackadaisical about the way they go about construction. Deadlines are deferred. This inspite of the RERA. For instance, there are class action suits against construction companies, where a plot has been dug up for some construction work and left at that state for months. It ends up being some kind of a breeding ground for dengue carrying mosquitoes due to all the stagnant water. And a lot of people fall sick, and end up wasting a lot of man hours. This had happened to scores of mid to upper management employees of Patni computers, who were all accommodated in a new construction in Wadala, surrounded by many more constructions. Patni decided to move court.

 

You are being to harsh on the milords here. 

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On 9/14/2018 at 5:18 PM, Moochad said:

 

A good exposition on Modinomics by Harsh Gupta

I don't agree with some parts, but the thing I disagree with the most is the idea that we will succeed regardless. The idea that if we elect some khichdi government or some government led by goofballs who advocate private sector reservation is laughable. To think someone like Mamata or Mulayam will engage in further economic reforms or not napalm all the initiatives Mahatma Modi has made is naive, IMO. Weak governments are the most vulnerable to special interest groups who want this or that law removed/created. Some union with a large chunk of voters can easily get the new Contract-Labor Laws repealed by promising their votes to some regional satrap.     

 

Also, the demographic dividend idea is a tired cliche'. In the same video Gupta acknowledges that India has failed to establish a proper lower-level education system. Then he also acknowledges we have missed the sweet spot in time when there was much more opportunities for manufacturing = we have a poorly educated workforce, that workforce is multiplying, and we have missed out on the area of the economy which employs the more unskilled labor.  A "demographic" is a "dividend" when one can harness the demographic and use their skills productively. If a demographic doesn't have something to be put to use in or lacks skills for what is available, then all one has are hordes of disaffected, jobless youth.  Some dividend!!! :((

 

Also lol at some of Chacha apologia. There was never any sane rationale for ignoring primary education to establish a handful of universities which end up exporting talent to Western countries. If students don't have the fundamentals from primary education, how exactly are they going to take advantage of a select few magical IITs and the sort? 

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On 9/16/2018 at 8:21 AM, Tibarn said:

I don't agree with some parts, but the thing I disagree with the most is the idea that we will succeed regardless. The idea that if we elect some khichdi government or some government led by goofballs who advocate private sector reservation is laughable. To think someone like Mamata or Mulayam will engage in further economic reforms or not napalm all the initiatives Mahatma Modi has made is naive, IMO. Weak governments are the most vulnerable to special interest groups who want this or that law removed/created. Some union with a large chunk of voters can easily get the new Contract-Labor Laws repealed by promising their votes to some regional satrap.     

 

 

Only a handful of leaders are even capable of doing it, even BJP is lacking many. I like Goyal after Modi.

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Also, the demographic dividend idea is a tired cliche'. In the same video Gupta acknowledges that India has failed to establish a proper lower-level education system. Then he also acknowledges we have missed the sweet spot in time when there was much more opportunities for manufacturing = we have a poorly educated workforce, that workforce is multiplying, and we have missed out on the area of the economy which employs the more unskilled labor.  A "demographic" is a "dividend" when one can harness the demographic and use their skills productively. If a demographic doesn't have something to be put to use in or lacks skills for what is available, then all one has are hordes of disaffected, jobless youth.  Some dividend!!! :((

Even Sanyal always mentions that demographic dividend. I think it is more of a potential benefit than a confirmed benefit for us. Certainly there will not be benefits if workforce isn't educated/skilled.

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Also lol at some of Chacha apologia. There was never any sane rationale for ignoring primary education to establish a handful of universities which end up exporting talent to Western countries. If students don't have the fundamentals from primary education, how exactly are they going to take advantage of a select few magical IITs and the sort? 

I think he is more saying that Nehru was better than Indira because he took a political stand rather than Indira governing the country based on politics. 

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On 9/17/2018 at 12:59 PM, Moochad said:

Only a handful of leaders are even capable of doing it, even BJP is lacking many. I like Goyal after Modi.

Goyal is good as FM, like he is now. I don't think he fits as a PM. Only the King in the North is a fitting PM for Bharat.

 

On 9/17/2018 at 12:59 PM, Moochad said:

Even Sanyal always mentions that demographic dividend. I think it is more of a potential benefit than a confirmed benefit for us. Certainly there will not be benefits if workforce isn't educated/skilled.

It makes sense in economic terms(good economic logic), but not outside of that.

On 9/17/2018 at 12:59 PM, Moochad said:

I think he is more saying that Nehru was better than Indira because he took a political stand rather than Indira governing the country based on politics. 

No I get that, but that is exactly why he is being a fool. Nehru ideologically pushed his agenda. Indira pushed the same Socialist agenda for political expediency. Therefore, Indira's IQ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bandit Nehru's. Nehru was dumb enough to believe in Socialism and it's BS ideology. Indira just used Socialism to win elections and loot money. She was corrupt, but she was a clever politician and enriched her family. On the other hand, he was an ignoramus.   

 

I know this Gupta fellow from Twitter, he is a Libertarian. The fact that he needs to apologize/defend Nehru reflects poorly on him and is hypocritical, as no sensible Libertarian would be foolish enough to speak of the virtues of some pseudo-intellectual who caused the death of millions through his distinctly evil policies.  

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On 9/16/2018 at 8:21 AM, Tibarn said:

There was never any sane rationale for ignoring primary education to establish a handful of universities which end up exporting talent to Western countries. If students don't have the fundamentals from primary education, how exactly are they going to take advantage of a select few magical IITs and the sort? 

Hindsight is 20/20.  Why claim that IITs were at the expense of primary education?  Similar arguments are made against ISRO today as well, and the same bhakts jump in to defend that India can afford space research alongside development, and the space program has made great contributions to India.  Same can be said of the IITs as well, they have made major contributions to India. 

 

But let's stick to the agenda of bashing and blaming Nehru for all that went wrong.  Fits a neat narrative that way, facts be damned.  

 

Nehru wasn't perfect.  He made a lot of errors and bad decisions that hurt India. But he made a lot of good ones too.  And IIT is part of the latter, not the former.

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On 11/9/2018 at 3:20 PM, sandeep said:

Hindsight is 20/20.  Why claim that IITs were at the expense of primary education?  Similar arguments are made against ISRO today as well, and the same bhakts jump in to defend that India can afford space research alongside development, and the space program has made great contributions to India.  Same can be said of the IITs as well, they have made major contributions to India. 

 

But let's stick to the agenda of bashing and blaming Nehru for all that went wrong.  Fits a neat narrative that way, facts be damned.  

 

Nehru wasn't perfect.  He made a lot of errors and bad decisions that hurt India. But he made a lot of good ones too.  And IIT is part of the latter, not the former.

Agree with most of your comment with exception that Modi supporters are not “bhakts”.  Because its far to rich from anti modi camp. Modi supporter criticise / support Modi policy with objectivity. Most of his support base is educated middle class. They do regularly criticise even Modis cabinet.

But for example, say A chandrababu Naidu supporter, who has allways opposed Mamata Didi till one month back, now finds himself in NO dilemma when Chandrababu Naidu attempts to form a coalition with Mamata Didi. And that is Bhakt.

 

BTW, some IT cell Is sharing 200 blunder list of Modi. My only, response to such people is, they found no fault “in the view of Indian enmass shitting on roadside or railway line every morning”, but all of sudden their nationalism and thinking hat is on. Once again, Think, Modi has to run campaign with a India and Indians who were shitting shamelessly in public. 

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12 minutes ago, mishra said:

Agree with most of your comment with exception that Modi supporters are not “bhakts”.  Because its far to rich from anti modi camp. Modi supporter criticise / support Modi policy with objectivity. Most of his support base is educated middle class. They do regularly criticise even Modis cabinet.

But for example, say A chandrababu Naidu supporter, who has allways opposed Mamata Didi till one month back, now finds himself in NO dilemma when Chandrababu Naidu attempts to form a coalition with Mamata Didi. And that is Bhakt.

 

BTW, some IT cell Is sharing 200 blunder list of Modi. My only, response to such people is, they found no fault “in the view of Indian enmass shitting on roadside or railway line every morning”, but all of sudden their nationalism and thinking hat is on. Once again, Think, Modi has to run campaign with a India and Indians who were shitting shamelessly in public. 

This is such a shitty melange of strawmen that I don't even know where to begin.  

 

"Modi Saar" saving us from Indians shitting in public.  "Modi Saar" invented Shulabh Shauchalay didn't he? They frikking came up with those 25 years ago, when I was still in India. Difference is that 25 years later, India is rich enough, and Modi was slick enough, to tack on a "Swacch Bharat Cess" and drumbeat about it.  Still, fair credit to him for prioritizing the issue and all that.  But in one breath, you say Modi supporters are not "bhakts" and then go on to act like one. 

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Lol, i gave example of Bhakt. I will give you another example of Bhakt. As per sources, tomorrow, all retards will blame Modi for politicizing CBI because there is a allegation by retiring guy that PM took regular updates on Lslu Yadav case till Lalu got jailed.

Bottomline is, when you oppose Modi, you support/embolden Mamata, Congress, Lalu mulayam mayavati chidambaram , Kejri , pawar and so on. List in south India is equally big.

So, i will support any person, who can make these people pay , or least,  check these people who have sold india to core.

 

So, let neutrals decide who qualifies as Bhakt or Retard.

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