Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[rkt.india]

10 hours ago, tapandrun said:

was talking about what  happened to umran-- a fair guess would be some kind of mishandling in nca.

 

why is no1 asking vvs what going on with 2 of the fastest bowler in the cntry ?? why there is no report or reporting...

Umran had back stress injury, same as Mayank.

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

They have old man Shami, Harshal and great Unadkat. No chance for anyone else

At least two of them will be smashed in opening two three games.

Simarjeet is bound to get a chance in this poor bowling attack 

[Lord]

Just now, Lone Wolf said:

At least two of them will be smashed in opening two three games.

Simarjeet is bound to get a chance in this poor bowling attack 

 

They will be, but they are also 'senior' bowlers. They'll get a rope. 

 

only 2 of them will play anyway with Cummins. 

[Nikhil_cric]

Kyle Jamieson post his injuries has changed his jump into a more horizontal leap than it used to be.  

 

His release point is now slightly higher from before and he is accurate and moving the ball away and it looks sustainable and he can probably avoid the litany of injuries he had earlier.   But that pace is in the low 130's

 

A model to follow for some of our more injury prone bowlers?

[Lone Wolf]

Excited to see Suyash in IPL... Will be premier spinner for RCB this year

 

[Lord]

2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Excited to see Suyash in IPL... Will be premier spinner for RCB this year

 

 

They are bigging up Patidar now lmao.

 

Warne is lucky he didnt bowl to Patidar hahahaha

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

They have old man Shami, Harshal and great Unadkat. No chance for anyone else

If SRH ground stay true to their batting. Then both Harshal and Unadkut will struggle. 

They require slowness off the pitch. Hyderabad will be a patta.

 

One more thing which will favour Simarjeet is that Hyderabad ground has bigger boundaries. So ball wont travel that easily as it travels in Chinnaswamy or Wankhede.

[singhvivek141]

26 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Kyle Jamieson post his injuries has changed his jump into a more horizontal leap than it used to be.  

 

His release point is now slightly higher from before and he is accurate and moving the ball away and it looks sustainable and he can probably avoid the litany of injuries he had earlier.   But that pace is in the low 130's

 

A model to follow for some of our more injury prone bowlers?

Jamieson is very tall, we don't have such tall bowlers.

Nishant Saranu who is 6.7 is already similar to Jamieson in terms of pace.

 

[Lord]

12 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

If SRH ground stay true to their batting. Then both Harshal and Unadkut will struggle. 

They require slowness off the pitch. Hyderabad will be a patta.

 

One more thing which will favour Simarjeet is that Hyderabad ground has bigger boundaries. So ball wont travel that easily as it travels in Chinnaswamy or Wankhede.

 

patta track helps those bowlers more than Simarjeet. Bowlers will need change of pace as there wont be any swing or bounce. 

[Nikhil_cric]

37 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Jamieson is very tall, we don't have such tall bowlers.

Nishant Saranu who is 6.7 is already similar to Jamieson in terms of pace.

 

What I meant is maybe cutting a few kph might help us get the likes of Mayank and Tyagi on the field more often?

[Lone Wolf]

28 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

patta track helps those bowlers more than Simarjeet. Bowlers will need change of pace as there wont be any swing or bounce. 

Simarjeet will work for them on venues like Wankhede Eden Chinnaswamy Dharmasala jaipur.

He will have plenty to work with if given opportunity.

[rkt.india]

47 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Jamieson is very tall, we don't have such tall bowlers.

Nishant Saranu who is 6.7 is already similar to Jamieson in terms of pace.

 

Nishant is 6'9

[Lone Wolf]

50 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

If SRH ground stay true to their batting. Then both Harshal and Unadkut will struggle. 

They require slowness off the pitch. Hyderabad will be a patta.

 

One more thing which will favour Simarjeet is that Hyderabad ground has bigger boundaries. So ball wont travel that easily as it travels in Chinnaswamy or Wankhede.

With such depleted Stocks in our pace bowling department... I wish at least Simarjeet shines.

He is perhaps only guy in Indian set up who can bowl outswing at 87-88mph.

 

 

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

What I meant is maybe cutting a few kph might help us get the likes of Mayank and Tyagi on the field more often?

No need to cut pace when they will need to up it for brief moments

Tyagi is  confused and loosing pace in process while Mayank has lost few yards already and I'm pretty sure he will loose more on return

They need to operate in 140-145+ in short burst and 150+ in real short bursts

That is how high pace bowlers should be captained

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Poor Umran. You feel for someone like him

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Koi Tyagi ji ko lelo team mein.

[Nikhil_cric]

2 hours ago, Suhaan said:

No need to cut pace when they will need to up it for brief moments

Tyagi is  confused and loosing pace in process while Mayank has lost few yards already and I'm pretty sure he will loose more on return

They need to operate in 140-145+ in short burst and 150+ in real short bursts

That is how high pace bowlers should be captained

I'd be glad if these guys can consistently bowl even 138-143 with odd spells above 145. As long as they are accurate and get bounce and can take on greater workloads 

 

These guys are ghosts most of the time - particularly Tyagi. Nowhere even near the Indian setup despite hearing about him for the last 4 years. 

[tapandrun]

9 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Kyle Jamieson post his injuries has changed his jump into a more horizontal leap than it used to be.  

 

His release point is now slightly higher from before and he is accurate and moving the ball away and it looks sustainable and he can probably avoid the litany of injuries he had earlier.   But that pace is in the low 130's

 

A model to follow for some of our more injury prone bowlers?

Jamieson was 133-138 kmph bowler to start with after injury he is near that pace not that far from it.

 

His injury was due to v.big frame bending to left in follow through , cutting down on jump has made him able to transfer his momentum in straight lines not falling to left.

The solution was not to cut the pace but to change the direction of momentum. His upper body was falling to left and he has corrected this.

 

Most bowler fix this issue in the same way 

 

 

Edited March 17, 2025 by tapandrun

[Suhaan]

32 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

I'd be glad if these guys can consistently bowl even 138-143 with odd spells above 145. As long as they are accurate and get bounce and can take on greater workloads 

 

These guys are ghosts most of the time - particularly Tyagi. Nowhere even near the Indian setup despite hearing about him for the last 4 years. 

Infact that demand should be from Kamboj,Gurnoor,Harshit types not Umran,Mayank

[Nikhil_cric]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

Jamieson was 133-138 kmph bowler to start with after injury he is near that pace not that far from it.

 

His injury was due to v.big frame bending to left in follow through , cutting down on jump has made him able to transfer his momentum in straight lines not falling to left.

The solution was not to cut the pace but to change the direction of momentum. His upper body was falling to left and he as corrected this.

 

Most bowler fix this issue in the same way 

 

 

No. Jamieson in 2021 was quicker than that. Fastest of 145 and average of maybe 138 and that was in Test cricket. 

 

His speeds in CT and in the T20 were low 130's only and even dipping below that .  

 

You are right about the way he is transferring momentum now but his pace had reduced as a consequence