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Posted
1 minute ago, tapandrun said:

The bowling line-up of Mayank+Ashok+ Khaleel went for 200 runs vs us. 

 

Direct comarrision with player who have played and performed at intnl level is hard. 

 

We have all the data on Siraj, we know he is nt that good in t20s and is on decline. Hardik is an allrounder. Arash is best t20 pacer Ind has after Bhumrah.

 

Have already posted regarding Gurjap, he bowls mid to high 120s kmph and effort ball going early 130s kmph, and apart from that one length he can not bowl anyother lengths .

 

Ashok has been good this reason in domestics in all formats, bowls fast with good line and length , currently bowls 2 length bouncers and yorker. Same for Mayank and he needs to prove his fitness can not pick a player who gets injured every 2nd game.

 

Mayank and Ashok have good potential, not so sure of Gurjap

 

 

But that pitch was a batting paradise where our team scored 271.

Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

But that pitch was a batting paradise where our team scored 271.

Most ind t20is are also played at batting paradise, that why said hards to compare intnl players with one-off game by newer players.

Edited by tapandrun
Posted
1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Information is obtained by @Malcolm Merlyn. I only forwarded what I got.

I understand, not questioning you.

Both are capable of those speeds...Mayank's case will bring in happiness as he wasn't clocking this fast post his first injury in IPL.

Posted
7 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

I understand, not questioning you.

Both are capable of those speeds...Mayank's case will bring in happiness as he wasn't clocking this fast post his first injury in IPL.

@Malcolm Merlyn is unwell. We are connected through WhatsApp. He told me that he has premium subscription of cricviz and their trackman feature showed these speeds. They do have trackman though I am not able to locate it.

Posted
7 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

I understand, not questioning you.

Both are capable of those speeds...Mayank's case will bring in happiness as he wasn't clocking this fast post his first injury in IPL.

@Malcolm Merlyn is unwell. We are connected through WhatsApp. He told me that he has premium subscription of cricviz and their trackman feature showed these speeds. They do have trackman though I am not able to locate it.

Posted
1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

@Malcolm Merlyn is unwell. We are connected through WhatsApp. He told me that he has premium subscription of cricviz and their trackman feature showed these speeds. They do have trackman though I am not able to locate it.

Username ,password public kar dena chahiye

Posted
3 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Yup, Mayank's top pace was 153 and 152 in the 2 matches...Ashok's 149 and ~150

152, 153k indicates Mayank is at his very best. On Patta wickets , he is clean bowling international batsmen, thats really heartening. yes his fitness has been a question mark in the past but now we hope he is becoming stronger.

my assumption is these IND A Pacers are india A pacers now, Siraj and Boom would be asked to focus on Tests and Harshit/Prasidh/arshdeep/mayank/ashok/Prince/sarjan will take care of ODI and T20's. Boom may be called into help some times in ODI and T20's if series are balanced. 

Harshit seems to have all ingredients to lead Indian fast bowling attack as he has an attacking mindset and he attacks to get wickets. Arshdeep is effective only with the new ball and that's why he is not played in ODI's. in t20 he bowls a 3 over first spell with new ball and he has some tricks with the new ball. in odi he can be effective in first spell of 4 overs and later he stretches and bowls upto 139k and cal scale up but he becomes a defensive bowler as soon as ball stops to swing.

 

Posted
10 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

152, 153k indicates Mayank is at his very best. On Patta wickets , he is clean bowling international batsmen, thats really heartening. yes his fitness has been a question mark in the past but now we hope he is becoming stronger.

my assumption is these IND A Pacers are india A pacers now, Siraj and Boom would be asked to focus on Tests and Harshit/Prasidh/arshdeep/mayank/ashok/Prince/sarjan will take care of ODI and T20's. Boom may be called into help some times in ODI and T20's if series are balanced. 

Harshit seems to have all ingredients to lead Indian fast bowling attack as he has an attacking mindset and he attacks to get wickets. Arshdeep is effective only with the new ball and that's why he is not played in ODI's. in t20 he bowls a 3 over first spell with new ball and he has some tricks with the new ball. in odi he can be effective in first spell of 4 overs and later he stretches and bowls upto 139k and cal scale up but he becomes a defensive bowler as soon as ball stops to swing.

 

 

Ind needs to build a good fast bowling line-up/bench, this is now happened twice in no time that pacers Ind tm thought they are move-on from have to be recalled for ICC events. 1st shami and now Siraj. 

 

Ind does not have many pacers who they can pick from, idea now should be to develop 7-8 pacers and there can be some format specific

 

 

Posted
7 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Ind needs to build a good fast bowling line-up/bench, this is now happened twice in no time that pacers Ind tm thought they are move-on from have to be recalled for ICC events. 1st shami and now Siraj. 

 

Ind does not have many pacers who they can pick from, idea now should be to develop 7-8 pacers and there can be some format specific

 

And India also need to STOP the fetish of playing one player in all 3 formats plus IPL. Its not sustainable anymore, specially to the fast bowlers.

There is no lack of options now...apart from the usual pacers like Bumrah, Arshdeep, Harshit, Akashdeep, Siraj, Prasidh who are more or less front runners in one or more formats....we also have gotten Mayank, Ashok, Eden, Gurnoor in the mix..

Total close to 10 bowlers is a blessing, and out of the 5-6 are 25 and below, so can effectively serve for next 7-8 years.

Posted

Auqib Nabi is in unreal form this season. :clap2:

 

A lock-in for the NZ away tests but then Kamboj had similar run last time in Ranji & we know how things turned out.

 

But Nabi can bat as well. So a big plus.

 

Four quicks in playing XI ( if its a green top )


Boom

Siraj
Akashdeep

Nabi

Posted

Disappointed with Yudhvir...he was bowling slow 128-137 kph...Nabi was in 125-132 range, similar pace by Sumit.

 

Seems Yudhvir is focusing more on his batting and in process ignoring his bowling. He was also bowling lot fuller in order to generate swing instead of his usual good length deliveries.

 

Someone needs to remind him that he isnt Aaqib Nabi. When Yudhvir took a 5fer against Mumbai..he was bowling 132-142 kph range and was noticeably faster than Nabi & Umair Nazir. But somehow this season, he is lacking that zip.

Posted (edited)
17 hours ago, deepdynamo said:

Auqib Nabi is in unreal form this season. :clap2:

 

A lock-in for the NZ away tests but then Kamboj had similar run last time in Ranji & we know how things turned out.

 

But Nabi can bat as well. So a big plus.

 

Four quicks in playing XI ( if its a green top )


Boom

Siraj
Akashdeep

Nabi

 

Prasidh has been okay. Harshit if fit should be there too

Edited by Lord
Posted
18 hours ago, deepdynamo said:

Auqib Nabi is in unreal form this season. :clap2:

 

A lock-in for the NZ away tests but then Kamboj had similar run last time in Ranji & we know how things turned out.

 

But Nabi can bat as well. So a big plus.

 

Four quicks in playing XI ( if its a green top )


Boom

Siraj
Akashdeep

Nabi


NZ will prepare bouncy hard pitches then, they don't have Boult or Southee anymore who can cause havoc on the green tops.
On bouncy pitches, Akashdeep and Nabi both will struggle. Siraj is anyway a wild card...one session he may do well, in other he can bowl total trash. 

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