Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Vilander]

Because of lack of pace from bumrah 132 to 138 ball is not carrying to slip. Poor bowling 

[Vilander]

Bumrah length is wrong as well. Ashwin is not looping and not getting spin pathetic bowling from him. Lol what poor bowling, but Ashwin and Shami are aggressive. Ishant bowled tight line but is trundling as he is unfit. Shami is fast. Bumrah relaxed and happy and confident and bowling absolute filth and acting very happy in the boundary. May be he is happy becauee his position with Mumbai indians is safe. Absolute lack of intent from Bumrah.  Nz is lucky they survived some dismissals by mere inches that ball tracking saved them and are making merry. Saini should play in place of bumrah next match.

[Vilander]

140 kph yorker from bumrah to jamison finally..

[Vilander]

Aim for his head and then rib cage forearms. Then york again. Throw in a beamer to the head and say sorry then york again

[Vilander]

Pant is a piss poor keeper. Ashwin gets jaimisson with a flipper.

[Vilander]

Pant is standing too far behind for indian pacers. 

[Vilander]

Never seen this many bottom edges going to 4 in one game. Lol first ross taylor now this ajaz guy. 

[Vilander]

Bumrah bowled a full over over 140 and created 2 to 3 chances. 

 

 

[express bowling]

29 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Bumrah bowled a full over over 140 and created 2 to 3 chances. 

 

 

 

What was the quickest in that over ?

[CG]

I think bumrah and shami on nz pitches have to bowl their natural lengths they are not swing bowlers.I hope they hit the pitch hard in second innings like they did it aus.

[Vickydev]

3 hours ago, Vilander said:

Bumrah length is wrong as well. Ashwin is not looping and not getting spin pathetic bowling from him. Lol what poor bowling, but Ashwin and Shami are aggressive. Ishant bowled tight line but is trundling as he is unfit. Shami is fast. Bumrah relaxed and happy and confident and bowling absolute filth and acting very happy in the boundary. May be he is happy becauee his position with Mumbai indians is safe. Absolute lack of intent from Bumrah.  Nz is lucky they survived some dismissals by mere inches that ball tracking saved them and are making merry. Saini should play in place of bumrah next match.

I felt this too during the LOIs. Chahal like smiling after getting smashed, or after beating the bat. He didn't seem to care too much. A stark contrast to how he was in the initial years. I hope all this bashing will spur him on and realise that in international cricket he just cant turn up and expect wickets to roll in.

[Vilander]

6 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

What was the quickest in that over ?

142 yorker length and a very good bouncer. He is just not interested. I am wondering if he ia conserving himself for IPL. Its very pathetic. Shami bowled with intensity and Ishant seamed and got his length right and also was a bit lucky. 

[Vilander]

If bumrah did what he was supposed to do that is to pepper and fast york tail end sloggers instead of Ashwin coming into the arc for sloggers. India would have been 80 runs in the lead right now. This position is on Bumrah. 

[bhakum20]

24 minutes ago, Vilander said:

If bumrah did what he was supposed to do that is to pepper and fast york tail end sloggers instead of Ashwin coming into the arc for sloggers. India would have been 80 runs in the lead right now. This position is on Bumrah. 

This wasn’t said before but I’ll say it. The whole ODI series loss was also on Bumrah. Forget wickets, he gave away 20 runs too many every game which resulted in the losses. You expect the number 1 bowler in the world to do his job when the batsmen have done theirs.

 

Tests aren’t over yet so will reserve any comments.And anyway batsmen here have been the worst so he will most likely escape too much criticism

[Vk1]

countering swing compared to bounce seems to be far far more difficult.. thats why someone like ChePu could do so well in Oz pitches but struggles very badly in Eng/NZ.. also even mediocre teams too come into play once it starts swinging.. recent example where Ireland dismissed England for 85 on day 1... you dont need 140+ pace.. 130 is more than enough

Edited February 23, 2020 by Vk1

[rkt.india]

8 hours ago, Vilander said:

If bumrah did what he was supposed to do that is to pepper and fast york tail end sloggers instead of Ashwin coming into the arc for sloggers. India would have been 80 runs in the lead right now. This position is on Bumrah. 

Or maybe his back isn't the best right now

[Autonomous]

Shaheen 148kph. 

[Vickydev]

16 minutes ago, Autonomous said:

Shaheen 148kph. 

He is terrific. Full and straight at his pace and height can be very tough to negotiate. Hasnain as well looks very impressive for this format.

Haris Rauf though looks average to me, doesn't look the same class as the other two. 

[the don]

Shaheen, Naseem and Hasnain have consistently been bowling above 145 kph. 

Even little Musa is hitting 150 kph. These teenagers are very impressive with their pace. Shaheen has been bowling absolute heat since his elbow has gotten better. 

Hopefully Rauf finds his rhythm. 

Great signs. 

[Vilander]

12 hours ago, bhakum20 said:

This wasn’t said before but I’ll say it. The whole ODI series loss was also on Bumrah. Forget wickets, he gave away 20 runs too many every game which resulted in the losses. You expect the number 1 bowler in the world to do his job when the batsmen have done theirs.

 

Tests aren’t over yet so will reserve any comments.And anyway batsmen here have been the worst so he will most likely escape too much criticism

Kohli never played covering the lateral movement. Both Ross and Kane did it with Ishant and Shami. Even Rahane is not doing it, he is just going straight at it.