fineleg Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 Kohli is a legend in T20I and a star in ODIs. What is his achilles heel (weakness inspite of overall strength) that causes him to not yet reach batting greatness in Test cricket? Facing the moving ball, outside off corridor, temperament(?)...Can he translate greatness in ODI/T20 to Test cricket like SRT or Dravid/Laxman... Thoughts? New guy and tweaker 2
Adi_91 Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 He has a weakness with the moving ball and outside the off stump. I still feel, he has to take his test batting a bit more seriously. I feel he will come good though. express bowling, panesarv and tweaker 3
fineleg Posted March 31, 2016 Author Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Adi_91 said: He has a weakness with the moving ball and outside the off stump. I still feel, he has to take his test batting a bit more seriously. I feel he will come good though. 1. Moving ball (county cricket can help? Eng Counties will love to draft in V. Kohli) 2. outside off stump fishing and need to leave right (like M. Vijay does) 3. Mental patience and temperament - dealing with boredom in slow periods. - need to grind and grit it during tough sessions (like Dravid used to, rather than Sehwag who will gift wicket in "boring sessions" due to impatience) 4. Quality spinners with crowded close-in fielders (how is he against this, Laxman used to drive silky) Edited March 31, 2016 by fineleg tweaker 1
Adi_91 Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 1 minute ago, fineleg said: 1. Moving ball (county cricket can help? Eng Counties will love to draft in V. Kohli) 2. outside off stump fishing and need to leave right (like M. Vijay does) 3. Mental patience and temperament - need to grind and grit it during tough sessions (like Dravid used to) 4. Quality spinners with crowded close-in fielders (how is he against this, Laxman used to drive silky) It will not affect him much in Indian conditions where the ball hardly moves. I don't see any Indian cricketer playing in English county these days. I think BCCI needs to act in this.
Adi_91 Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 1 minute ago, Viper said: They should send pujara and vijay.. what do they do in free time lol they only play tests True. Pujara is not even playing IPL I guess. Not good for him as he is anyway rusty these days.
HippoSucks Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, Viper said: They should send pujara and vijay.. what do they do in free time lol they only play tests I don't think Pujara would be picked by any team based on his current form.
Chandan Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 On 3/31/2016 at 4:22 AM, fineleg said: 1. Moving ball (county cricket can help? Eng Counties will love to draft in V. Kohli) 2. outside off stump fishing and need to leave right (like M. Vijay does) 3. Mental patience and temperament - dealing with boredom in slow periods. - need to grind and grit it during tough sessions (like Dravid used to, rather than Sehwag who will gift wicket in "boring sessions" due to impatience) 4. Quality spinners with crowded close-in fielders (how is he against this, Laxman used to drive silky) Has problem in playing the moving ball and we'll see that if he has improved there or not in the coming months as we have so many tests to play in next 18 months, starting with 4 tests in WI in July. There the pitches are tough and have low scoring matches there. But no fast and bouncy ones there as in Aus where bounce was the only obstacle to tackle Otherwise pitch was as flat as road. How many quality spinners will he play? How many are there in the world now? If he'll have problem playing even the present ones, then the problem is ...well acute. This season will tell us where Virat Kohli the test batsman will go. On 3/31/2016 at 4:43 AM, Adi_91 said: True. Pujara is not even playing IPL I guess. Not good for him as he is anyway rusty these days. I was quite disappointed when Pujara didn't go to county this year, away from this IPL brouhaha. It'd have honed his skill as well as kept his frustrated mind engaged. And he was free till June. So wonder why he didn't go.
vayuu1 Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 Anderson,moin ali and English condition Chak De India adi B 1
express bowling Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 Outswing, just outside the off-stump , is the only delivery that has troubled Kohli consistently from mid 2014. He was better at tackling this delivery even during the 2013-14 tour of SA.
Mariyam Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 On 3/31/2016 at 4:17 AM, fineleg said: Kohli is a legend in T20I and a star in ODIs. What is his achilles heel (weakness inspite of overall strength) that causes him to not yet reach batting greatness in Test cricket? Facing the moving ball, outside off corridor, temperament(?)...Can he translate greatness in ODI/T20 to Test cricket like SRT or Dravid/Laxman... Thoughts? Kohli's achilles heel is that he bats for team Agamemnon (India). Rasgulla 1
New guy Posted May 1, 2016 Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) Pacing his innings. In limited overs he has a target in mind after each over, knows when to accelerate, when to rotate strike. He gets confused with unlimited overs and often gets stuck between being too defensive and going for his shots. Also, he is a perfectionist so he knows his test record is not great yet so he thinks a lot about it. I know its a cliché to say, play your natural game, but Kohli should just think of each over and each ball instead of worrying too much. He is too good to fail for long in tests. Edited May 1, 2016 by New guy
rkt.india Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 6 hours ago, New guy said: Pacing his innings. In limited overs he has a target in mind after each over, knows when to accelerate, when to rotate strike. He gets confused with unlimited overs and often gets stuck between being too defensive and going for his shots. Also, he is a perfectionist so he knows his test record is not great yet so he thinks a lot about it. I know its a cliché to say, play your natural game, but Kohli should just think of each over and each ball instead of worrying too much. He is too good to fail for long in tests. even in LOIs, he is good only chasing. Batting first, he is not that successful.
BlueBee Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 even in LOIs, he is good only chasing. Batting first, he is not that successful. Nah. He's as good as any batting first. It's just his excellent record while chasing that people undermine his records batting first. adi B 1
Chandan Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 25 minutes ago, BlueBee said: Nah. He's as good as any batting first. It's just his excellent record while chasing that people undermine his records batting first. There is significant difference between the two inn, but even then, its good enough. matches batting first 2008-2016 73 72 4 2804 138 41.23 3245 86.40 10 14 6 233 21 matches fielding first 2008-2016 98 91 19 4408 183 61.22 4771 92.39 15 22 4 440 51 http://goo.gl/73wlg
Mosher Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 Sorry about the offtopic but when is next test series that India plays? When is India's tour to WI? Getting bored seeing tonty tonty.
tweaker Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 3 hours ago, Mosher said: Sorry about the offtopic but when is next test series that India plays? When is India's tour to WI? Getting bored seeing tonty tonty. India is going to play 4 test from July to August Mosher 1
tweaker Posted May 2, 2016 Posted May 2, 2016 Kohli is a class act,He is determined & hard working. He can iron out his flaws outside off stump or in swinging conditions.But his main problem is temperament. He is hardly able to convert his 100 in to 200+ scores. Mosher 1
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