zen Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Link Highlights: Quote Of late, India have been quite vocal about their approach to Twenty20 batting: taking time to gauge the conditions, not taking undue risks, and playing largely cricketing shots. They do not move around the crease to exploit the V behind the wicket, they do not switch-hit or reverse-sweep, and they do not hit across the line until the slog overs. After India's seven-wicket loss in the semi-final, Dhoni even called it the "Indian brand of cricket", when he was asked how difficult it had been for India to set themselves a target, knowing they were playing a power-packed West Indies team on a flat pitch. West Indies chased down 193 with a flurry of boundaries, getting there with seven wickets in hand. "As I said, we have to keep reviewing [our desired first-innings total]," Dhoni said. "What our strength is, if you see the Indian brand of cricket, we take one or two overs, we see how the wicket is behaving, and according to that we see 'okay, next five overs, let's do this', 'at the end of this over, if we have not lost too many wickets, this is where we should be'. Dhoni praised Rahane's contribution, saying he had given India a solid platform from where they could "launch and score those extra 10-15 runs in the last few overs". Dhoni said Rahane had done "what he does best" and had been picked ahead of Shikhar Dhawan for precisely this reason. By normal cricketing standards, Rahane played an excellent innings. West Indies made him work hard for his runs, and he stuck it out, ran hard between the wickets, and scored as quickly as possible while not taking undue risks. PS For more details, please check the link Edited April 1, 2016 by rett tweaker 1
MK55 Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 This is what I feared. No wonder we're playing such old fashioned brand of cricket. Watching him in the press conferences these days, he seems a bit lost. Tries to impart logic into every response but unfortunately it's all fallacious on most occasions.
Nova Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Power hitting from the likes of Rohit and Raina never came. The top order flopped. I remember at one point Kohli said in a post match interview that Rohit failed and he had to be cautious in his approach. We needed explosive start to post a huge score. I think the fear of losing early wickets all the time played a role in the team's strategy. tweaker 1
zen Posted April 1, 2016 Author Posted April 1, 2016 Quote After India's T20 series loss to South Africa last October, Dhoni himself acknowledged that his calculated approach might not suit T20s as well as it does ODIs. "Personally," he said, "I feel I use a bit too much of my brain in this format." WC2011INDIA 1
chewy Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Quote Given how much credit the IPL gets for "producing" or "discovering" Indian talent, it is curious that none of India's top six at the World T20 made it on that basis. Even Manish Pandey, who has an IPL century and a match-winning 94 in an IPL final, only got his chance seven years after his first-class debut, after building a solid body of work in the longest format. .... All this while, the selectors have shown great reluctance to blood a generation of young batsmen with new-age T20 techniques and excellent first-class records. Karun Nair is a brilliant exponent of the reverse-sweep, Shreyas Iyer upsets bowlers' lengths by taking stance outside his crease or deep within it, Suryakumar Yadav plays the scoop over short fine leg from the moment he steps into the crease, and Deepak Hooda hits bigger sixes than most Indian batsmen. All have been important cogs in their IPL teams, and all have 40-plus first-class averages, with Nair and Iyer averaging over 50. All are aged between 20 and 25. I have been saying the same. None of the new IPL batting successes have been tried. Likes of Rohit, Raina, Yuvraj, Dhawan where already in India reckoning pre-IPL. Not sure why so much conservative in T20s. India picked a young team in 2007, won the thing. Then dumped the policy, as established players from ODI team got long rope in T20Is.
New guy Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 We were extremely lucky we had Bangla and Pak in our group. SA or England would have pwned us. Also the only time we won the T20WC was when we put a youngster in charge and the team completely transformed In fact, in the history of the T20 WC, Barring the Pak 2009 win where Younis Khan was the captain, all world cup wins have been by a new or/and young captain. Sri Lanka won under Malinga of all people Bigg Brother and WC2011INDIA 2
HippoSucks Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) I don't see anything wrong with what he said. Indian cricket has always followed a calculative approach. We aren't the team who will regularly score 60 runs in the powerplay and we don't have to. Regarding his comments on Rahane's innings, obviously you wouldn't expect a captain to publicly admonish a fellow team member. Edited April 1, 2016 by HippoSucks
vijay50 Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 People over the age of 32-33 must not play international T20 cricket , especially, India where fielding or hitting ability drops. Leave it to the youngsters . You can always play ODI (till 35-36) or tests as long as you are in form and is fit.
HippoSucks Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 12 minutes ago, vijay50 said: People over the age of 32-33 must not play international T20 cricket , especially, India where fielding or hitting ability drops. Leave it to the youngsters . You can always play ODI (till 35-36) or tests as long as you are in form and is fit. Try guessing how old McCullum, Gayle etc are.
king kobra Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 India don't hv any opner who can hit from fst ball in last 15 year ( only sehwag) .we need only one explosive ooner with rohit. Mayank agrwal shreayas iyar manan vohra in in future
Adi_91 Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) The problem is, selectors did not pick those explosive players who played well. Its high time we get rid of Rahane. The other day, Michael Slater was speaking highly about Rahane. I hope he is fine and just joking. Edited April 2, 2016 by Adi_91 tweaker 1
WC2011INDIA Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Frankly no one, at the moment, in the current T20 team barring Kohli is fit for T20. Rahane can be a good opener in T20 if he can hit the gym and start strengthening his hands for big hitting. You don't score so many runs in IPL with just strike rotation...somewhere and somehow he has lost that boundary hitting ability... Also, for now, Rohit & Rahane should be our openers in ODIs as we need someone at the top who can rotate strike consistently and lay a good foundation for others. Dhawan and Pandey can come at #4 or #5. Raina is unfortunately not as good as he used to be..maybe get shreyas iyer or nair in place of him, but as long as dhoni is there, he will not let that happen... :( Edited April 2, 2016 by WC2011INDIA
kosingh Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 Yeah let's have Rahane building platforms from the 1st to the 16th over, so that the other 6-7 batsmen can come in and launch an attack in the final 4 overs.
WC2011INDIA Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) 33 minutes ago, kosingh said: Yeah let's have Rahane building platforms from the 1st to the 16th over, so that the other 6-7 batsmen can come in and launch an attack in the final 4 overs. Dude I am talking about ODIs. For T20s Rahane has to hit the gym and drink protein/energy drinks. If he is hitting boundaries then good else he should sacrifice his wicket in 10th-11th over and let other guys do all the acceleration. But I have a feeling that this team lacks confidence in doing so, that's why he batted till 15th over just so that there is no collapse ending in sub par total. This is the only explanation. Edited April 2, 2016 by WC2011INDIA tweaker 1
rkt.india Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 Brand of cricket should depend on the conditions and not a pre-determined set and we need to have players for all conditions and play them accordingly and be flexible in our approach. On pitches like these, we need to promote big hitters up the order. On, some pitches, we might need grafters.
rkt.india Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 27 minutes ago, WC2011INDIA said: Dude I am talking about ODIs. For T20s Rahane has to hit the gym and drink protein/energy drinks. If he is hitting boundaries then good else he should sacrifice his wicket in 10th-11th over and let other guys do all the acceleration. But I have a feeling that this team lacks confidence in doing so, that's why he batted till 15th over just so that there is no collapse ending in sub par total. This is the only explanation. ODIs are no different these days. On pitches like we had in Aus, there is no time to slow down.
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