So what does Jadeja offer?

[HippoSucks]

14 hours ago, adi B said:

Average of 18 in tests is decent?he is almost like a tailender in odis ,unreliable as always

Jadeja averages 22 in tests and 33 in ODIs which is decent for someone batting at #8. In ODIs, the strike rate of 85 is the problem. 

[HippoSucks]

13 hours ago, The Realist said:

Jadeja's batting isn't very good but his bowling is crucial for India in matches in Asia. Saying that he doesn't bowl well is false.  

[Number]

Don't get fooled by Jadeja's average in ODIs.

Most of his runs came when the match was already lost while chasing so he tuk tuks his way to 50 with other tailenders.

Just check how many of his fifties are in winning cause.

[Texan]

16 minutes ago, HippoSucks said:

Jadeja averages 22 in tests and 33 in ODIs which is decent for someone batting at #8. In ODIs, the strike rate of 85 is the problem. 

 

Jadeja has played half of his Test innings at number 7. Average of 21 is poor for a number 7. Even Ashwin, who normally bats below him has a better Test batting record. 

[Texan]

9 minutes ago, Number said:

Don't get fooled by Jadeja's average in ODIs.

Most of his runs came when the match was already lost while chasing so he tuk tuks his way to 50 with other tailenders.

Just check how many of his fifties are in winning cause.

 

I hardly recollect any matches where he has won it for us with some good batting. Probably, there could be a handful, but I would agree that most of the time we have seen him score was when he was just knocking singles around aimlessly without targeting victory. Unfortunately, so far though when we have tried playing his replacement Axar Patel, he happens to be even worse as a batsman than Jadeja. But now that we have Pandya playing the all rounder's role, I think we should get someone like Mishra in the team who is a better bowler IMO. 

 

Perhaps, a line up like this...

Sharma

Dhawan

Kohli

Pandey

Dhoni

Pandya

Jadhav / Raina / Negi

Ashwin

Mishra

Bhuvnesh

Bumrah

 

 

[HippoSucks]

12 minutes ago, Texan said:

 

Jadeja has played half of his Test innings at number 7. Average of 21 is poor for a number 7. Even Ashwin, who normally bats below him has a better Test batting record. 

He shouldn't be batting at #7 until he improves his batting. But in Asia, he makes India's test team based on his bowling alone. His batting average of 27 at #8 (http://www.howstat.com/cricket/statistics/players/PlayerPositions.asp?PlayerID=3644) is just a bonus. 

Edited April 5, 2016 by HippoSucks

[Texan]

4 minutes ago, HippoSucks said:

He shouldn't be batting at #7 until he improves his batting. But in Asia, he makes India's test team based on his bowling alone. His batting average of 27 at #8 (http://www.howstat.com/cricket/statistics/players/PlayerPositions.asp?PlayerID=3644) is just a bonus. 

 

Of course he does. I already mentioned that in India on turning wickets, his stump to stump bowling is worth its weight in gold. Question is whether he deserves a place in ODIs, T20s and Tests outside India. 

 

And with Kohli trying to follow a 5 bowler policy, we are going to need a number 7 bowler who can bat decently. 

[jusarrived]

I cant believe this thread . lol

 

 

[speedster]

Bowling: Important in Tests ins Asia, may be required even outside Asia as Ashwin is still to prove himself there, ODIs does a job of restricting, his T20 place is debatable.

 

Batting: His inability to perform consistently with the bat speaks volumes about the quality of pitches and bowlers at the domestic level. Still struggles against short pitched stuff (like many of our frontline batsman), and his approach is always to try to hit out and he usually gets out in the process.

 

Fielding: The one part of his game beyond reproach, the best fielder we have.

 

Overall his bowling is important to our Test side, ODI team, for T20 if he is played then he will have to be played purely as a bowler and his performances will have to be accessed accordingly.

[asterix]

Playing Jaddu is hampering any chance of playing a decent Leggie. Jaddu has got enough chances now. A Leggies should be tried in his place...

[express bowling]

7 hours ago, HippoSucks said:

Jadeja averages 22 in tests and 33 in ODIs which is decent for someone batting at #8. In ODIs, the strike rate of 85 is the problem. 

Jadeja has batted at no.7 for most of his career.  He is batting at no. 8 only from the last T20 series in  Australia. 

 

Average of 21.5 for a no.7  test batsman is not ok but, more than that, the extremely unsure way in which he plays pace, bounce, seam or swing is the main problem.

 

In ODIs, his average of 32 is ok for a no.7 but his SR of 84 is just not acceptable. He has low SR in T20s too.

[Forever Indian]

Ashwin and Jadeja are very similar in a sense that they depend on the pitch and are finger spinners. So when there is no spin on offer both are effectively useless. That's the reason only one of them should be there in the team in LOIs. We should have a wrist spinner like Mishra, Chahal, Kuldeep Yadav, etc. as the second spinner in LOIs.

 

In home tests because of helpful conditions both can be there in team. In overseas tests we should have one of the wrist spinners as the first spinner. Hopefully Kohli will follow the horses for courses method...

 

[mishra]

On 02/04/2016 at 4:31 PM, randomGuy said:

In T20s, you don't need deep batting. Plus he is good enough for 10-15 runs off 5-10 balls at the end. Bowling is not too bad. And fielding is exceptional.

 

Also Raina, is good enough, even if out of form. 

 

Dhawan dominates on his day. Doesn't waste too many balls if he fails. 

 

The only undeserving player is Rahane IMO.

Again and again, we were saved by in form Kohli. Else performance of our batting lineup was even worse than Pakistan. So form does matters.

Not sure about rest but I am certain that Whethetr inform or out of form, Jaddu is useless

[mishra]

8 hours ago, Texan said:

 

Of course he does. I already mentioned that in India on turning wickets, his stump to stump bowling is worth its weight in gold. Question is whether he deserves a place in ODIs, T20s and Tests outside India. 

 

And with Kohli trying to follow a 5 bowler policy, we are going to need a number 7 bowler who can bat decently. 

In domestic conditions, Its Ashwin who won us most tests. Any other spinner would have done better than Jaddu. In odis,I still cant remember when did Jddu played some knock worth mentionining in last 5 years. If it wasnt MSD, He would have been out

[mishra]

Jaddu is Indian version of Lala. A enigma.

First we thought he is batsman who can bowl. Then we thought he is a bowler who can bat. Then we thought he is a allrounder, Then we thought he cant do tests but is good in odis. Now we think he can play T20s as a good fielder in T20

 

[Laaloo]

This guy is a big time hack. In tests, only his batting in Lords was useful and that too he hacked his way. S/R or 85 is unacceptable. When was the last time he won us a match with his batting? Even hastings won a recent ODI match. Look at Milne from NZ. He's a number 10 hitting sixes and we have this hack who's only good for a few boundaries.

[Texan]

Jaddu miyan getting married this month. Regardless of what he has to offer to Indian cricket, he did get offered a grand 1 crore Audi along with the bride 

 

 

[kosingh]

For a guy that has 3 first class triple centuries, Jadeja is one useless character with the bat

[beetle]

The guys is a multi crorepati and taking Dahej publicly.Chee chee!

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/rajkot/Ravindra-Jadeja-to-tie-knot-on-April-17/articleshow/51692047.cms

[mishra]

25 minutes ago, radhika said:

The guys is a multi crorepati and taking Dahej publicly.Chee chee!

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/rajkot/Ravindra-Jadeja-to-tie-knot-on-April-17/articleshow/51692047.cms

Only Child. So he gets it all