Texy Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) article SA will become another mediocre ZIM. Transformation should be organic and not forced. Jacque Kallis on Twitter: "I'm embarrased to be a South African." Edited April 27, 2016 by Texy sscomp32, doccricket, adi B and 1 other 4
bulbul Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 No wonder players like AB want to retire before pushed out.. sscomp32, Mosher, adi B and 2 others 5
MechEng Posted April 27, 2016 Posted April 27, 2016 Great news for England, they will now have unlimited supply of white South African players. Captain, doccricket, tweaker and 6 others 9
Texan Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 We should also implement caste based reservation in the cricket team. sscomp32, tweaker and diehardpacer 3
Mosher Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 Nobody is holding back the black players from getting in the team, if they are good enough. Stupid law by the SA government express bowling and diehardpacer 2
tweaker Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 This move will drag SA cricket backwards. sourab10forever, express bowling, doccricket and 1 other 4
tweaker Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 5 hours ago, Texan said: We should also implement caste based reservation in the cricket team. Our politicians can do it any time. Caste,minority quota . sourab10forever and doccricket 2
G_B_ Posted April 28, 2016 Posted April 28, 2016 there goes another sporting nation from the cricketing landscape.... doccricket 1
Texan Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 7 hours ago, G_B_ said: there goes another sporting nation from the cricketing landscape.... I won't count on that happening.
CoverDrive Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 this is likely to impact SA cricket significantly. In the short term we will see some of the players retiring earlier than usual. some other promising players like dekock will be always under pressure to perform well. if he has a couple of bad series he will be dropped easily. some of the upcoming cricketers may think about going to england etc. opportunity for likes of netherlands which can poach players. Eng and now NZ are benefiting already. if this starts impacting SA national level results they may have to think about reconsidering the quotas for national team
bulbul Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 ^ Results are the last thing when quotas are considered for national sports teams. doccricket 1
CoverDrive Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 14 minutes ago, bulbul said: ^ Results are the last thing when quotas are considered for national sports teams. yes but you need good results to inspire the youth. a world cup win would inspire all SA kids esp black kids who were never into it much. there has to be a balance i feel- cannot sacrifice near term results to such an extent for the long term goals
bulbul Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 yes but you need good results to inspire the youth. a world cup win would inspire all SA kids esp black kids who were never into it much. there has to be a balance i feel- cannot sacrifice near term results to such an extent for the long term goals What you are talking is ideal but quotas are no longer done on idealistic basis...this is more like statistical process.
mishra Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 They can afford it by fielding Colour players against Pakistan Bangladesh Zimbabwe Srilanka in bilateral series and put best players in ICC tourneys and IPL
Mariyam Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 What about players like Duminy etc. Are they a part of the white quota? Is there a further sub quota for Afrikaans speaking whites and English speaking whites?
Texan Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 15 minutes ago, Mariyam said: What about players like Duminy etc. Are they a part of the white quota? Is there a further sub quota for Afrikaans speaking whites and English speaking whites? They are wanting more representation from players of color in the team. Duminy, Amla both qualify as that. tweaker 1
Texan Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 On 4/28/2016 at 1:11 AM, tweaker said: Our politicians can do it any time. Caste,minority quota . Honestly, I'd prefer if something like that happened. With cricket, at least this issue would get more visibility. Today reservations are so blatantly misused by the creamy layer within these groups. And nobody gives a $hit about it. Make no mistake that I am not anti reservation. I would prefer reservations based on economic status rather than caste or religion. adi B, sourab10forever and tweaker 3
Mariyam Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, Texan said: Honestly, I'd prefer if something like that happened. With cricket, at least this issue would get more visibility. Today reservations are so blatantly misused by the creamy layer within these groups. And nobody gives a $hit about it. Make no mistake that I am not anti reservation. I would prefer reservations based on economic status rather than caste or religion. Economic status based reservations are a pipe dream in our country. Everyone hides their income. No one is going to honestly agree to declare to the government what they earn. Unless the Income Tax department is able to assess better and has more sweeping investigatory powers, this is not happening.
tweaker Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 3 hours ago, Texan said: Honestly, I'd prefer if something like that happened. With cricket, at least this issue would get more visibility. Today reservations are so blatantly misused by the creamy layer within these groups. And nobody gives a $hit about it. Make no mistake that I am not anti reservation. I would prefer reservations based on economic status rather than caste or religion. The concept of reservation is a very complex matter.First it was to be used for only 20 years.But now It has become a very political issue.
kosingh Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 We already have a couple of places in the team reserved for players who don't deserve to be there. Nepotism quota. Raina, Jadeja, Binny etc. have in some games benefited from that quota when they had no business playing in those games due to their form/ match conditions etc.
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