Current crop of pacers in the world (Starc, Boult, Philander...)

[Trichromatic]

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
DW Steyn (SA)	2011-2015	36	67	1240.1	305	3624	168	6/8	11/60	21.57	2.92	44.2	9	1
VD Philander (SA)	2011-2015	32	60	1010.5	245	2783	126	6/44	10/102	22.08	2.75	48.1	9	2
RJ Harris (Aus)	2011-2015	22	44	801.5	226	2170	93	7/117	9/187	23.33	2.70	51.7	4	0
JM Anderson (Eng)	2011-2016	57	109	2169.5	578	5861	226	6/42	10/45	25.93	2.70	57.6	10	2
JR Hazlewood (Aus)	2014-2016	20	38	675.0	163	2012	77	6/70	9/136	26.12	2.98	52.5	3	0
JL Pattinson (Aus)	2011-2016	17	30	546.3	116	1831	70	5/27	8/105	26.15	3.35	46.8	4	0
SCJ Broad (Eng)	2011-2016	58	107	2043.1	468	6082	230	8/15	11/121	26.44	2.97	53.3	11	2
MG Johnson (Aus)	2011-2015	31	60	1052.0	220	3513	132	7/40	12/127	26.61	3.33	47.8	5	1
MA Starc (Aus)	2011-2016	28	53	913.0	185	3120	115	6/50	11/94	27.13	3.41	47.6	7	1
M Morkel (SA)	2011-2016	40	75	1255.1	303	3683	129	6/23	8/196	28.55	2.93	58.3	2	0
PM Siddle (Aus)	2011-2016	39	75	1344.3	372	3840	134	5/49	9/104	28.65	2.85	60.2	4	0
TA Boult (NZ)	2011-2016	41	77	1492.4	331	4431	153	6/40	10/80	28.96	2.96	58.5	5	1
TG Southee (NZ)	2011-2016	37	70	1387.1	306	4047	137	7/64	10/108	29.54	2.91	60.7	3	1
KAJ Roach (WI)	2011-2016	25	45	747.3	133	2493	82	5/41	10/146	30.40	3.33	54.6	4	1
N Wagner (NZ)	2012-2016	21	40	777.4	159	2587	85	6/41	8/103	30.43	3.32	54.8	3	0
KTGD Prasad (SL)	2011-2015	19	34	546.5	84	1914	62	5/50	8/169	30.87	3.50	52.9	1	0
Junaid Khan (Pak)	2011-2015	22	41	767.3	157	2253	71	5/38	8/151	31.73	2.93	64.8	5	0
ST Finn (Eng)	2012-2016	23	40	712.0	115	2406	75	6/79	8/117	32.08	3.37	56.9	2	0
Mohammed Shami (India)	2013-2016	15	29	533.3	80	1969	58	5/47	9/118	33.94	3.69	55.1	2	0
UT Yadav (India)	2011-2016	19	36	520.0	89	2060	58	5/93	7/103	35.51	3.96	53.7	1	0
RMS Eranga (SL)	2011-2016	19	35	648.3	125	2138	57	4/49	6/226	37.50	3.29	68.2	0	0
BA Stokes (Eng)	2013-2016	25	44	644.2	111	2255	60	6/36	8/161	37.58	3.49	64.4	2	0
DAJ Bracewell (NZ)	2011-2016	25	46	777.2	130	2626	69	6/40	9/60	38.05	3.37	67.5	2	0
I Sharma (India)	2011-2016	34	60	1108.3	223	3515	86	7/74	9/162	40.87	3.17	77.3	4	0
N Pradeep (SL)	2011-2016	21	41	648.3	101	2321	54	4/62	7/180	42.98	3.57	72.0	0	0
RAS Lakmal (SL)	2011-2016	24	44	756.3	141	2473	50	4/78	6/105	49.46	3.26	90.7	0	0

Who among the current crop have potential to become next big thing in pace bowling?

 

Starc seems to be the one.

 

Hazelwood and Pattinson will do well in Australia and some other places.

 

SA have always produced world class pacers. Rabada and Philander will be their top bowlers later.

 

Boult and Southee have been performing well enough for NZ be competitive.

 

Dhammika Prasad and Shami have shown good potential from subcontinent.

 

No Pakistani bowler except Junaid has picked up 50 wickets in last 5 years.

[rkt.india]

Philander is already 31 and not sure how effective he has been outside SA. Dhammika is already 33 and he barely plays anything due to injuries.

[Bigg Brother]

Starc is the best at present.He is the GOAT material. Among the new players,only Rabada can come close to him.Boult is not the same post injury as he was in WC.Philander doesn't even deserve to be compared with these guys.He has regressed so much.Only batsman he can get out is our mustache Dhawan.

[Vilander]

9 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
DW Steyn (SA)	2011-2015	36	67	1240.1	305	3624	168	6/8	11/60	21.57	2.92	44.2	9	1
VD Philander (SA)	2011-2015	32	60	1010.5	245	2783	126	6/44	10/102	22.08	2.75	48.1	9	2
RJ Harris (Aus)	2011-2015	22	44	801.5	226	2170	93	7/117	9/187	23.33	2.70	51.7	4	0
JM Anderson (Eng)	2011-2016	57	109	2169.5	578	5861	226	6/42	10/45	25.93	2.70	57.6	10	2
JR Hazlewood (Aus)	2014-2016	20	38	675.0	163	2012	77	6/70	9/136	26.12	2.98	52.5	3	0
JL Pattinson (Aus)	2011-2016	17	30	546.3	116	1831	70	5/27	8/105	26.15	3.35	46.8	4	0
SCJ Broad (Eng)	2011-2016	58	107	2043.1	468	6082	230	8/15	11/121	26.44	2.97	53.3	11	2
MG Johnson (Aus)	2011-2015	31	60	1052.0	220	3513	132	7/40	12/127	26.61	3.33	47.8	5	1
MA Starc (Aus)	2011-2016	28	53	913.0	185	3120	115	6/50	11/94	27.13	3.41	47.6	7	1
M Morkel (SA)	2011-2016	40	75	1255.1	303	3683	129	6/23	8/196	28.55	2.93	58.3	2	0
PM Siddle (Aus)	2011-2016	39	75	1344.3	372	3840	134	5/49	9/104	28.65	2.85	60.2	4	0
TA Boult (NZ)	2011-2016	41	77	1492.4	331	4431	153	6/40	10/80	28.96	2.96	58.5	5	1
TG Southee (NZ)	2011-2016	37	70	1387.1	306	4047	137	7/64	10/108	29.54	2.91	60.7	3	1
KAJ Roach (WI)	2011-2016	25	45	747.3	133	2493	82	5/41	10/146	30.40	3.33	54.6	4	1
N Wagner (NZ)	2012-2016	21	40	777.4	159	2587	85	6/41	8/103	30.43	3.32	54.8	3	0
KTGD Prasad (SL)	2011-2015	19	34	546.5	84	1914	62	5/50	8/169	30.87	3.50	52.9	1	0
Junaid Khan (Pak)	2011-2015	22	41	767.3	157	2253	71	5/38	8/151	31.73	2.93	64.8	5	0
ST Finn (Eng)	2012-2016	23	40	712.0	115	2406	75	6/79	8/117	32.08	3.37	56.9	2	0
Mohammed Shami (India)	2013-2016	15	29	533.3	80	1969	58	5/47	9/118	33.94	3.69	55.1	2	0
UT Yadav (India)	2011-2016	19	36	520.0	89	2060	58	5/93	7/103	35.51	3.96	53.7	1	0
RMS Eranga (SL)	2011-2016	19	35	648.3	125	2138	57	4/49	6/226	37.50	3.29	68.2	0	0
BA Stokes (Eng)	2013-2016	25	44	644.2	111	2255	60	6/36	8/161	37.58	3.49	64.4	2	0
DAJ Bracewell (NZ)	2011-2016	25	46	777.2	130	2626	69	6/40	9/60	38.05	3.37	67.5	2	0
I Sharma (India)	2011-2016	34	60	1108.3	223	3515	86	7/74	9/162	40.87	3.17	77.3	4	0
N Pradeep (SL)	2011-2016	21	41	648.3	101	2321	54	4/62	7/180	42.98	3.57	72.0	0	0
RAS Lakmal (SL)	2011-2016	24	44	756.3	141	2473	50	4/78	6/105	49.46	3.26	90.7	0	0

Who among the current crop have potential to become next big thing in pace bowling?

 

Starc seems to be the one.

 

Hazelwood and Pattinson will do well in Australia and some other places.

 

SA have always produced world class pacers. Rabada and Philander will be their top bowlers later.

 

Boult and Southee have been performing well enough for NZ be competitive.

 

Dhammika Prasad and Shami have shown good potential from subcontinent.

 

No Pakistani bowler except Junaid has picked up 50 wickets in last 5 years.

Ishant Sharma.

[Tibarn]

Starc continues to impress. He has 7 wickets so far in the current match. Australia have arguably both the best young batsman and best young pacer. I would wager that they both could be #1 in their categories for a while.   

[Texan]

Spearhead has potential to go from 3rd from last to 4th from last.

[MK55]

Swing bowlers like Boult/Steyn/Anderson might be effective in test cricket.

 

But when it comes to ODI's and effectiveness in the subcontinent there's just Starc who is miles ahead of the rest. All started with the improvement he showed in BBL after his performance in the Brisbane test against us. Pace was up by 5-10k, got aggressive and effective with his yorkers all of a sudden. Pace and attitude had a lot to do with it.
SA has also got some decent pacers. Rabada and even Morris have potential. Hopefully Cummins can get back soon as he's another exciting prospect for ODIs.
 

[express bowling]

Starc is the most effective and interesting pacer at the moment.  

 

Among older pacers, Steyn is still the best for me as far as all-round ability is concerned.

 

Young Rabada has a lot of potential.

 

Shami is the best pacer among Indians.

[Tibarn]

14 minutes ago, Viper said:

Tried to find Umesh and mighty IND phastt bowlers from bottom... Didn't  disappoint me even a bit.

Bottom of the list in a pretty useless stat for test bowlers as it's more a measure of economy. The list should be by strike rate, the number of balls bowled per wicket, a measure of wicket taking ability. Umesh is 10th and Shami 13th. That's middle of the pack from that list that Trichromatic posted. If you look at a list of Indian pacers all time, these two are among our most potent wicket takers.

 

Our fast bowlers are fine. 

[express bowling]

32 minutes ago, Tibarn said:

Bottom of the list in a pretty useless stat for test bowlers as it's more a measure of economy. The list should be by strike rate, the number of balls bowled per wicket, a measure of wicket taking ability. Umesh is 10th and Shami 13th. That's middle of the pack from that list that Trichromatic posted. If you look at a list of Indian pacers all time, these two are among our most potent wicket takers.

 

Our fast bowlers are fine. 

 

Exactly.

 

Taking wickets quickly is one of the most important things to win a test match...and this is reflected by low  bowling strike rate ( SR ).

 

The following is a list of  Indian bowlers  with lowest SR in our entire test history ( who have taken 50 or more test wickets )

 

Ashwin, Umesh and Shami  are the top three in our entire history.

 

Umesh and Shami top the list as far as our pacers are concerned.

 

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_strike_rate;qualmin1=50;qualval1=wickets;team=6;template=results;type=bowling

 

From ESPNCRICINFO :

 

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Balls	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
R Ashwin	2011-2016	36	66	10010	4864	193	7/66	12/85	25.20	2.91	51.8	18	4
UT Yadav	2011-2016	19	36	3120	2060	58	5/93	7/103	35.51	3.96	53.7	1	0
Mohammed Shami	2013-2016	16	30	3237	1983	58	5/47	9/118	34.18	3.67	55.8	2	0
C Sharma	1984-1989	23	39	3470	2163	61	6/58	10/188	35.45	3.74	56.8	4	1
IK Pathan	2003-2008	29	54	5884	3226	100	7/59	12/126	32.26	3.28	58.8	7	2
Z Khan	2000-2014	92	165	18785	10247	311	7/87	10/149	32.94	3.27	60.4	11	1
S Sreesanth	2006-2011	27	50	5419	3271	87	5/40	8/99	37.59	3.62	62.2	3	0
RA Jadeja	2012-2016	17	31	4446	1663	71	6/138	8/76	23.42	2.24	62.6	4	0
N Kapil Dev	1978-1994	131	227	27740	12867	434	9/83	11/146	29.64	2.78	63.9	23	2
J Srinath	1991-2002	67	121	15104	7196	236	8/86	13/132	30.49	2.85	64.0	10	1
KD Ghavri	1974-1981	39	69	7036	3656	109	5/33	7/120	33.54	3.11	64.5	4	0
ND Hirwani	1988-1996	17	28	4298	1987	66	8/61	16/136	30.10	2.77	65.1	4	1
A Mishra	2008-2016	20	36	4648	2440	71	5/71	7/72	34.36	3.14	65.4	1	0
BS Chandrasekhar	1964-1979	58	97	15963	7199	242	8/79	12/104	29.74	2.70	65.9	16	2
A Kumble	1990-2008	132	236	40850	18355	619	10/74	14/149	29.65	2.69	65.9	35	8
I Sharma	2007-2016	72	126	13923	7674	209	7/74	10/108	36.71	3.30	66.6	7	1
PP Ojha	2009-2013	24	48	7633	3420	113	6/47	10/89	30.26	2.68	67.5	7	1
Harbhajan Singh	1998-2015	103	190	28580	13537	417	8/84	15/217	32.46	2.84	68.5	25	5
BKV Prasad	1996-2001	33	58	7041	3360	96	6/33	10/153	35.00	2.86	73.3	7	1
RB Desai	1959-1968	28	45	5597	2761	74	6/56	8/190	37.31	2.95	75.6	2	0
SP Gupte	1951-1961	36	61	11284	4403	149	9/102	10/223	29.55	2.34	75.7	12	1
EAS Prasanna	1962-1978	49	86	14353	5742	189	8/76	11/140	30.38	2.40	75.9	10	2
M Prabhakar	1984-1995	39	68	7475	3581	96	6/132	6/92	37.30	2.87	77.8	3	0
BS Bedi	1966-1979	67	118	21364	7637	266	7/98	10/194	28.71	2.14	80.3	14	1
SLV Raju	1990-2001	28	51	7602	2857	93	6/12	11/125	30.72	2.25	81.7	5	1
DR Doshi	1979-1983	33	55	9322	3502	114	6/102	8/103	30.71	2.25	81.7	6	0
NS Yadav	1979-1987	35	61	8360	3580	102	5/76	8/118	35.09	2.56	81.9	3	0
Ghulam Ahmed	1948-1959	22	36	5650	2052	68	7/49	10/130	30.17	2.17	83.0	4	1
AB Agarkar	1998-2006	26	46	4857	2745	58	6/41	8/160	47.32	3.39	83.7	1	0
S Madan Lal	1974-1986	39	63	5997	2846	71	5/23	6/47	40.08	2.84	84.4	4	0
SA Durani	1960-1973	29	46	6446	2657	75	6/73	10/177	35.42	2.47	85.9	3	1
MH Mankad	1946-1959	44	70	14686	5236	162	8/52	13/131	32.32	2.13	90.6	8	2
Maninder Singh	1982-1993	35	52	8218	3288	88	7/27	10/107	37.36	2.40	93.3	3	2
S Venkataraghavan	1965-1983	57	96	14877	5634	156	8/72	12/152	36.11	2.27	95.3	3	1
DG Phadkar	1947-1959	31	48	5994	2285	62	7/159	7/88	36.85	2.28	96.6	3	0
RG Nadkarni	1955-1968	41	65	9165	2559	88	6/43	11/122	29.07	1.67	104.1	4	1
RJ Shastri	1981-1992	80	125	15751	6185	151	5/75	8/179	40.96	2.35	104.3	2	0
CG Borde	1958-1969	55	54	5695	2417	52	5/88	6/132	46.48	2.54	109.5	1	0

 

 

Edited August 21, 2016 by express bowling

[Tibarn]

Ashwin also has the best Strike rate for a spinner in Asia ever. Minimum 50 wickets.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=2;class=1;filter=advanced;host=27;host=6;host=7;host=8;orderby=bowling_strike_rate;qualmin2=50;qualval2=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Balls	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
R Ashwin (India)	2011-2015	22	43	6535	3017	147	7/66	12/85	20.52	2.77	44.4	15	4
Yasir Shah (Pak)	2014-2015	10	19	3115	1497	66	7/76	9/155	22.68	2.88	47.1	4	0
RA Jadeja (India)	2012-2015	9	17	2425	785	50	5/21	8/76	15.70	1.94	48.5	3	0
SK Warne (AUS)	1992-2004	23	42	6163	3106	116	7/94	11/188	26.77	3.02	53.1	10	3
M Muralitharan (SL)	1992-2010	93	163	31387	12712	583	9/51	13/115	21.80	2.43	53.8	49	16
GP Swann (Eng)	2008-2012	11	20	3134	1492	57	6/82	10/181	26.17	2.85	54.9	3	1
HMRKB Herath (SL)	1999-2016	52	97	15546	7073	277	9/127	14/184	25.53	2.72	56.1	24	6
R Benaud (AUS)	1956-1960	12	23	4399	1372	71	7/72	11/105	19.32	1.87	61.9	6	1
A Kumble (India)	1993-2008	78	138	25224	11067	404	10/74	14/149	27.39	2.63	62.4	27	7
Saqlain Mushtaq (Pak)	1995-2004	29	52	8814	3907	136	8/164	10/187	28.72	2.65	64.8	9	2
Abdul Qadir (Pak)	1977-1990	48	80	11625	5095	179	9/56	13/101	28.46	2.62	64.9	12	4
BS Chandrasekhar (India)	1964-1979	35	59	9761	4318	150	8/79	11/235	28.78	2.65	65.0	8	1
SLV Raju (India)	1990-2001	17	32	4752	1825	73	6/12	11/125	25.00	2.30	65.0	5	1
A Mishra (India)	2008-2015	14	26	3350	1617	51	5/71	7/72	31.70	2.89	65.6	1	0
Saeed Ajmal (Pak)	2009-2014	20	39	7028	3004	105	7/55	10/97	28.60	2.56	66.9	5	1
PP Ojha (India)	2009-2013	23	46	7405	3294	109	6/47	10/89	30.22	2.66	67.9	7	1
Harbhajan Singh (India)	1998-2015	67	122	19892	9242	291	8/84	15/217	31.75	2.78	68.3	19	5
Danish Kaneria (Pak)	2000-2009	38	67	11180	5641	162	7/118	12/94	34.82	3.02	69.0	9	2
Mushtaq Ahmed (Pak)	1990-2003	28	49	6218	3166	88	6/84	10/106	35.97	3.05	70.6	4	2
BAW Mendis (SL)	2008-2014	16	26	4071	2080	56	6/117	10/209	37.14	3.06	72.6	3	1
EAS Prasanna (India)	1962-1978	24	44	7179	2811	97	6/74	10/174	28.97	2.34	74.0	5	1

[Texan]

5 hours ago, Tibarn said:

Bottom of the list in a pretty useless stat for test bowlers as it's more a measure of economy. The list should be by strike rate, the number of balls bowled per wicket, a measure of wicket taking ability. Umesh is 10th and Shami 13th. That's middle of the pack from that list that Trichromatic posted. If you look at a list of Indian pacers all time, these two are among our most potent wicket takers.

 

Our fast bowlers are fine. 

 

Are Test match results determined by number of balls each team played or by number of runs each team scored?

[Tibarn]

1 hour ago, Texan said:

 

Are Test match results determined by number of balls each team played or by number of runs each team scored?

That is a false choice, as all three: (wickets, runs, and balls) are involved in bringing a result in a test match as all three are related. Also, all test matches have results, after all there are 3 (win, lose, or draw).

 

However, Test matches are won most often by taking 20 wickets.  If you have watched the last 5 years of Indian overseas tests, you would see that an inability to get wickets was why we didn’t win, particularly this last leg. It’s no surprise that so many players had career high scores (Cook, BMac, Clarke) against us. 

 

The value of a ball bowled is also something that most cricket fans don’t take into account.  There is a limit of 2700 balls in a test match. If bowlers get the other team out rapidly, it provides their batsmen more time to bat, thereby allowing their batsmen to: score at a slower pace (take less risks), score bigger(wear down opponent bowling) and, in the case of chasing a target in the 2nd innings, giving them a lower required run rate(higher probability to chase the target). If neither team can take wickets, and ball remaining = 0, then we get a draw. 

 

Now let me ask you a few questions: 
1) Which of these two seem most likely to correspond to a bowling unit’s ability to take 20 wickets, given that we have established that there are a limited number of balls in a test match?
A) Bowling average: the number of runs a bowler gives up for a wicket taken.
B) Bowling strike rate: the number of balls a bowler bowls before a wicket is taken.

2) Given that a fast bowler has physical limitations, an ability to only bowl around 20 overs in a day, which bowler would take more wickets in a day: 
C) One with a lower bowling strike rate, high average   
D) One with a higher bowling strike rate, lower average

 

3) If two relatively inexperienced test bowlers (Shami and Umesh) show an ability to take wickets greater than any pace bowlers in Indian history, should we deride them for a higher average, something that can be fixed with experience/coaching?
 

Edited August 22, 2016 by Tibarn

[MCcricket]

Eye opener how u look at it but S/R for me is the main thing n Shami , Umesh R right up there 53 n 55 n compare with the best, so Ave is high because of runs per over but both R aggressive n Umesh needs to improve more because Shami attacks the stumps mostly whereas Umesh only sometimes so his Ave should be lower

[express bowling]

1)  Spinners can afford to have a  higher SR, if they have a low average, as they can bowl a lot of overs per day.  For pacers, SR is very important as they cannot bowl more than 20 overs a day.

 

2)  Pacers who have low SR  have the most important wicket-taking ability in test matches. Bowling coaches should work hard with them to cut out the boundary balls...which will lower the average.

 

3) If you have pacers with sub-25 average then it adds significant value. But, in our case, it is more a choice between high SR and average of 30-32 or low SR and average of 34-35. I would prefer the low SR ones.

 

4)  In the last 10 years, pitches have generally become flatter for pacers and the batsmen play at a faster rate. This has resulted in a general increase in bowling averages for pacers ( except those from South Africa, who still get seaming pitches consistently in their country )

 

Here is a list of pacers who have taken 100 wickets or more in test matches in the last 10 years.  Only 3 pacers have low averages and 2 are from South Africa.

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
DW Steyn (SA)	2006-2016	75	138	2560.1	574	8029	376	7/51	11/60	21.35	3.13	40.8	23	5
VD Philander (SA)	2011-2016	33	61	1016.5	246	2795	126	6/44	10/102	22.18	2.74	48.4	9	2
RJ Harris (AUS)	2010-2015	27	52	956.0	258	2658	113	7/117	9/106	23.52	2.78	50.7	5	0
MA Starc (AUS)	2011-2016	28	53	918.3	185	3147	115	6/50	11/94	27.36	3.42	47.9	7	1
JM Anderson (Eng)	2006-2016	106	199	4024.1	1000	11743	422	7/43	11/71	27.82	2.91	57.2	19	3
MG Johnson (AUS)	2007-2015	73	140	2666.5	514	8891	313	8/61	12/127	28.40	3.33	51.1	12	3
SCJ Broad (Eng)	2007-2016	98	179	3388.0	757	10212	358	8/15	11/121	28.52	3.01	56.7	15	2
TA Boult (NZ)	2011-2016	42	78	1514.2	336	4483	156	6/40	10/80	28.73	2.96	58.2	5	1
M Morkel (SA)	2006-2016	71	132	2273.2	490	7098	242	6/23	8/196	29.33	3.12	56.3	6	0
PM Siddle (AUS)	2008-2016	61	114	2118.5	563	6216	208	6/54	9/104	29.88	2.93	61.1	8	0
ST Finn (Eng)	2010-2016	35	64	1057.4	189	3752	125	6/79	9/187	30.01	3.54	50.7	5	0
M Ntini (SA)	2006-2009	32	61	1039.3	220	3491	116	6/59	8/89	30.09	3.35	53.7	4	0
KAJ Roach (WI)	2009-2016	37	66	1129.5	214	3689	122	6/48	10/146	30.23	3.26	55.5	6	1
Z Khan (India)	2006-2014	50	89	1804.0	357	5849	190	7/87	10/149	30.78	3.24	56.9	8	1
TG Southee (NZ)	2008-2016	51	93	1843.2	395	5616	173	7/64	10/108	32.46	3.04	63.9	4	1
CS Martin (NZ)	2006-2013	40	72	1370.0	273	4465	134	6/26	8/31	33.32	3.25	61.3	3	0
JE Taylor (WI)	2006-2016	39	66	1125.1	230	3868	112	6/47	8/85	34.53	3.43	60.2	3	0
FH Edwards (WI)	2006-2012	31	57	926.1	107	3574	103	7/87	8/132	34.69	3.85	53.9	8	0
Umar Gul (Pak)	2006-2013	36	69	1201.3	198	4113	118	6/135	9/164	34.85	3.42	61.0	2	0
I Sharma (India)	2007-2016	72	126	2320.3	447	7674	209	7/74	10/108	36.71	3.30	66.6	7	1

 

From ESPNCRICINFO :

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_average;qualmin1=100;qualval1=wickets;spanmax1=22+Aug+2016;spanmin1=22+Aug+2006;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling

 

 

Edited August 22, 2016 by express bowling

[rkt.india]

7 minutes ago, express bowling said:

1)  Spinners can afford to have a  higher SR, if they have a low average, as they can bowl a lot of overs per day.  For pacers, SR is very important as they cannot bowl more than 20 overs a day.

 

2)  Pacers who have low SR  have the most important wicket-taking ability in test matches. Bowling coaches should work hard with them to cut out the boundary balls...which will lower the average.

 

3) If you have bowlers with sub-25 average then it adds significant value. But, in our case, it is more a choice between high SR and average of 30-32 or low SR and average of 34-35. I would prefer the low SR ones.

 

4)  In the last 10 years, pitches have generally become flatter for pacers and the batsmen play at a faster rate. This has resulted in a general increase in bowling averages for pacers ( except those from South Africa, who still get seaming pitches consistently in their country )

 

Here is a list of pacers who have taken 100 wickets or more in test matches in the last 10 years.  Only 3 pacers have low averages and 2 are from South Africa.

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
DW Steyn (SA)	2006-2016	75	138	2560.1	574	8029	376	7/51	11/60	21.35	3.13	40.8	23	5
VD Philander (SA)	2011-2016	33	61	1016.5	246	2795	126	6/44	10/102	22.18	2.74	48.4	9	2
RJ Harris (AUS)	2010-2015	27	52	956.0	258	2658	113	7/117	9/106	23.52	2.78	50.7	5	0
MA Starc (AUS)	2011-2016	28	53	918.3	185	3147	115	6/50	11/94	27.36	3.42	47.9	7	1
JM Anderson (Eng)	2006-2016	106	199	4024.1	1000	11743	422	7/43	11/71	27.82	2.91	57.2	19	3
MG Johnson (AUS)	2007-2015	73	140	2666.5	514	8891	313	8/61	12/127	28.40	3.33	51.1	12	3
SCJ Broad (Eng)	2007-2016	98	179	3388.0	757	10212	358	8/15	11/121	28.52	3.01	56.7	15	2
TA Boult (NZ)	2011-2016	42	78	1514.2	336	4483	156	6/40	10/80	28.73	2.96	58.2	5	1
M Morkel (SA)	2006-2016	71	132	2273.2	490	7098	242	6/23	8/196	29.33	3.12	56.3	6	0
PM Siddle (AUS)	2008-2016	61	114	2118.5	563	6216	208	6/54	9/104	29.88	2.93	61.1	8	0
ST Finn (Eng)	2010-2016	35	64	1057.4	189	3752	125	6/79	9/187	30.01	3.54	50.7	5	0
M Ntini (SA)	2006-2009	32	61	1039.3	220	3491	116	6/59	8/89	30.09	3.35	53.7	4	0
KAJ Roach (WI)	2009-2016	37	66	1129.5	214	3689	122	6/48	10/146	30.23	3.26	55.5	6	1
Z Khan (India)	2006-2014	50	89	1804.0	357	5849	190	7/87	10/149	30.78	3.24	56.9	8	1
TG Southee (NZ)	2008-2016	51	93	1843.2	395	5616	173	7/64	10/108	32.46	3.04	63.9	4	1
CS Martin (NZ)	2006-2013	40	72	1370.0	273	4465	134	6/26	8/31	33.32	3.25	61.3	3	0
JE Taylor (WI)	2006-2016	39	66	1125.1	230	3868	112	6/47	8/85	34.53	3.43	60.2	3	0
FH Edwards (WI)	2006-2012	31	57	926.1	107	3574	103	7/87	8/132	34.69	3.85	53.9	8	0
Umar Gul (Pak)	2006-2013	36	69	1201.3	198	4113	118	6/135	9/164	34.85	3.42	61.0	2	0
I Sharma (India)	2007-2016	72	126	2320.3	447	7674	209	7/74	10/108	36.71	3.30	66.6	7	1

 

From ESPNCRICINFO :

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_average;qualmin1=100;qualval1=wickets;spanmax1=22+Aug+2016;spanmin1=22+Aug+2006;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling

 

 

average 30 is the new 25. 35 is the new 30. That is because batsmen are scoring quicker, better bats, tailenders getting better at batting, flatter pitches.

Edited August 22, 2016 by rkt.india

[express bowling]

Among pacers who have taken atleast 100 wickets in the last 10 years, Ishant Sharma has the dubious distinction of having the highest average ( 36.7  ) and highest SR  ( 66.6 ).  Yet, Mr. Gavaskar was saying that he is doing ok and what more can he do ?  

 

Edited August 22, 2016 by express bowling

[express bowling]

9 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

average 30 is the new 25. 35 is the new 30. That is because batsmen are scoring quicker, better bats, tailenders getting better at batting, flatter pitches.

Exactly.

[Trichromatic]

 

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

average 30 is the new 25. 35 is the new 30. That is because batsmen are scoring quicker, better bats, tailenders getting better at batting, flatter pitches.

Not by that much, I would say 27-28 is new 25 and 32 is new 30. 

[MechEng]

The best I like about current cricket is that almost every team has at least one bowler who can bowl 140 kph (including Afghanistan and Oman).

This is a far cry from 90s and 2000s when only Australia, South Africa and Pakistan would have such bowlers.