maniac Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, fineleg said: If MSD is willing to play as a player, he can be in the Test team now. I think nearly all wanted him to quit the captaincy - people are aware that as a pure player he is the best wk-batsman. But he should play as a player under captaincy of Virat Kohli. But clearly MSD decided no, and he retired from the longer form of cricket. He wants to play till 2019 WC and 2020 T20 WC...only way he can do that is by saving his body from quitting Tests which he didn't care about anyways. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, maniac said: Saha is not as good as Parthiv,Karthik etc. with the bat,his keeping a shade better and with the gloves he is pretty mediocre,so what justifies his continuous selection? handy contribution against SA, runs in SL, runs in WI along with a 100, runs against NZ...all these series have justified his continuous selection. Link to comment
maniac Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, rkt.india said: handy contribution against SA, runs in SL, runs in WI along with a 100, runs against NZ...all these series have justified his continuous selection. But you seriously think,he is a long term selection.....I mean we don't have a keeper-batsman in India who is better than Saha at the moment? That is scary. You don't perform just well enough to keep your place in your team,You are in the team because you are really good at 1 aspect. I never said Saha deserves to be dropped,but he is overall pretty mediocre in both aspects...he has been good in patches Link to comment
SUMO Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 all of our good keepers in domestic avg around 40-44 in domestic be it saha parthiv karthik gautam kaul etc. saba karim had staggering 57 !!! was he our best ever ? Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 36 minutes ago, maniac said: Definitely....He is very talented with the bat,no doubt....bit my response was to the post that just because Saha has a better batting average than Mongia/Kirmani,that makes him better than them. Saha having a better batting average does not make him better than Kirmani or Mongia. Both were perhaps better keepers than Saha. The batting average part was in response to a post that Mongia and More were better BATSMEN than Saha ....which is not true. Both were more inconsistent with the bat while being good keepers. Link to comment
maniac Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, express bowling said: Saha having a better batting average does not make him better than Kirmani or Mongia. Both were perhaps better keepers than Saha. The batting average part was in response to a post that Mongia and More were better BATSMEN than Saha ....which is not true. Both were more inconsistent with the bat while being good keepers. Ok fair enough...Saha might be a better batsman but all I am saying is as an overall package he may be not as good as Mongia or Kirmani...keyword maybe express bowling 1 Link to comment
CG Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Lol one bad match and knives are out.Last match only his partner ship with ashwin was imp. express bowling 1 Link to comment
SecondSlip Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Give him the remaining 3 test matches that are left in this series. If he fails in all 3, drop him. Hopefully Pant finishes in the top 5 run scorers of this ranji season, I would like to see him debut against Bangladesh in Hyderabad G_B_ 1 Link to comment
G_B_ Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Hmm unfair sentiment finey Not easy keeping and batting across all formats. Sent from my Wileyfox Swift using Tapatalk Link to comment
ShebbySB Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Pant should play some A games before we consider him for tests.Right now I'd prefer Sheldon Jackson to replace Saha. Link to comment
fineleg Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) 22 minutes ago, G_B_ said: Hmm unfair sentiment finey Not easy keeping and batting across all formats. Sent from my Wileyfox Swift using Tapatalk Hmm which ? where? or did you address someone else? @G_B_ Edited November 21, 2016 by fineleg Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 8 hours ago, Sidhoni said: Why wouldn't he play under Virat? He has spoken about having no problems if the selectors decide to remove him as captain. The reason for him retiring as a player was the workload more than anything. Indeed, Dhoni is a big time team player. Wasn't the best Indian test keeper but he will never have any problem playing under anyone. Though I must say that he is one of those characters who might just surprise us and call it quits, the day he gives his captaincy away to another player. Not because he does not want to play under another player, but because he might not enjoy the game game the same way he was enjoying with the added responsibility. I am a big Kohli supporter when it comes to captaincy, but team players like Dhoni come once in a very long time. I hope he is around till the 2019 world cup. Sidhoni 1 Link to comment
G_B_ Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Hmm which ? where? or did you address someone else? @G_B_ My mistake On the phone. Saw n read something else Sent from my Wileyfox Swift using Tapatalk Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 8 hours ago, SecondSlip said: Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 6 hours ago, ShebbySB said: Pant should play some A games before we consider him for tests.Right now I'd prefer Sheldon Jackson to replace Saha. Sheldon is a part-time keeper. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 10 hours ago, maniac said: But you seriously think,he is a long term selection.....I mean we don't have a keeper-batsman in India who is better than Saha at the moment? That is scary. You don't perform just well enough to keep your place in your team,You are in the team because you are really good at 1 aspect. I never said Saha deserves to be dropped,but he is overall pretty mediocre in both aspects...he has been good in patches You don't always want a long-term solution. He is there till someone else is ready. Link to comment
Texan Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 6 hours ago, ShebbySB said: Pant should play some A games before we consider him for tests.Right now I'd prefer Sheldon Jackson to replace Saha. Jackson is not a regular keeper for Baroda. Pant is for Delhi. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 10 hours ago, SUMO said: all of our good keepers in domestic avg around 40-44 in domestic be it saha parthiv karthik gautam kaul etc. saba karim had staggering 57 !!! was he our best ever ? Saba Karim was pretty good with the bat but his keeping was mediocre. Link to comment
diga Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Saha should get all the tests in this series and if we win the series by the 4th test, then its better to try someone younger Link to comment
gakgupta Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 8 hours ago, ShebbySB said: Pant should play some A games before we consider him for tests.Right now I'd prefer Sheldon Jackson to replace Saha. he is not a regular keeper....he doesn't even keep for his state side Link to comment
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