kira Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just like inzi(who has a terrible world cup record) played one good innings in the world cup which eventually helped his team lift the cup in 1992, dhoni also has just 1 good innings in the world cup and was an utter failure throughout the world cup, dhoni wouldn't have even gotten the opportunity in the final if yuvi, sachin and zaheer didn't carry india to finals. Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, kira said: Yeah, thanks to gambhir. Dhoni's innings was useful but no where near gambhir's effort, poor gambo was robbed that night When Dhoni came to bat India was 3 for 114 . Link to comment
kira Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: When Dhoni came to bat India was 3 for 114 . yes, the new ball was seen off, the dew had taken affect and yuvi and raina were still to come, please tell me how dhoni played a better innings than gambhir? Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, kira said: yes, the new ball was seen off, the dew had taken affect and yuvi and raina were still to come, please tell me how dhoni played a better innings than gambhir? yes he did as he didnt get out and set panic in the team. Link to comment
kira Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: yes he did as he didnt get out and set panic in the team. lol when gambhir got out the match was over, set panic in the team? lmao Link to comment
I6MTW Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: I would take a MOM performance in a WC final over 175 of Kapil Dev, wrong, in the 1983 world cup, if it wasn't for kapils innings, India would've lost that match and would've been knocked out of the tournament, thanks to him only they were able to proceed forth in the tournament. Hence it is regarded as one of the greatest "Cricket" innings of all time. And to top that, there is no video footage of the match. Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 wrong, in the 1983 world cup, if it wasn't for kapils innings, India would've lost that match and would've been knocked out of the tournament, thanks to him only they were able to proceed forth in the tournament. Hence it is regarded as one of the greatest "Cricket" innings of all time. And to top that, there is no video footage of the match. Incorrect.India qualified with 16 points.The next team had only 8.So India wouldnot have been knocked out. Link to comment
goose Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 300 was a rare feat in Tendulkar's golden years. A hundred then nearly always won you the game where 275 was often enough. Remember this next time you compare averages and no. of tons across eras. Yoda-esque, GoldenSun and Ironhide 3 Link to comment
velu Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 4 hours ago, MultiB48 said: sachin at 28 ,batting 1st Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 1990-2002 139 138 7 5416 186* 41.34 6604 82.01 17 22 3 batting 2nd Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 1989-2001 138 135 18 5423 143 46.35 5928 91.48 14 31 10 clearly kohli is ahead of sachin GoldenSun and Vilander 1 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 15 hours ago, I6MTW said: wrong, in the 1983 world cup, if it wasn't for kapils innings, India would've lost that match and would've been knocked out of the tournament, thanks to him only they were able to proceed forth in the tournament. Hence it is regarded as one of the greatest "Cricket" innings of all time. And to top that, there is no video footage of the match. how do you top greatest innings with there being no video footage of it ? Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, kira said: yes, the new ball was seen off, the dew had taken affect and yuvi and raina were still to come, please tell me how dhoni played a better innings than gambhir? Seeing new ball in a turning track Edited January 22, 2017 by BeautifulGame Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 In the world cup final, at the end of 30th over we needed 124 runs at a required rate of 6.21. Of those req runs ,Gambhir scored 21 of 28 at a strike rate of 75.Whereas Dhoni scored 79 from 58 at a strike rate 137.Thats why Dhoni won MOM.Gambhir's was a great innings but Dhoni's one of the greatest knocks ever.When the crunch came,run rate went above 6,in a world cup final,Dhoni scored his runs. Shunya and Vilander 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 54 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said: Seeing new ball in a turning track it wasnt a turning track. In fact, it had something with the new ball. Zak had bowled very well with the new ball. Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 it wasnt a turning track. In fact, it had something with the new ball. Zak had bowled very well with the new ball. Only in the first innings.There was nothing in the second innings .Infact it slowed and turned in the second innings . Link to comment
I6MTW Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Vilander said: how do you top greatest innings with there being no video footage of it ? because of the situation, scenario, and it being a world cup match, had India lost this match, they would have had to surely beat Australia to qualify, thus putting more pressure, the whole scenario would've changed(hypothetical) but still was quite possible. India were 9-5 and 17-6 when he came, and in those days the overs were 60, nt 50. Although there was no video footage, there was radio commentary. IMO, I think it qualifies as one of the greatest innings, if nt the greatest Link to comment
I6MTW Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 17 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Incorrect.India qualified with 16 points.The next team had only 8.So India wouldnot have been knocked out. Still, the scenario would've been quite different, had they lost, with more pressure on them beating australia in order to qualify. Th won the match and went on to win the next one and won the knockouts. This match and innings changed the perspective of the team and players. Link to comment
kira Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 hours ago, BeautifulGame said: Seeing new ball in a turning track lol new ball is always dangerous when it swings, cricket pehli baar dekhi hai? turning track? Link to comment
SRT100 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 18 hours ago, I6MTW said: wrong, in the 1983 world cup, if it wasn't for kapils innings, India would've lost that match and would've been knocked out of the tournament, thanks to him only they were able to proceed forth in the tournament. Hence it is regarded as one of the greatest "Cricket" innings of all time. And to top that, there is no video footage of the match. Thats a real tragedy that a game in the 80s has no video of one of India's greatest batting performances ever. With that said, Dhoni's innings is still the greatest in terms of importance. GoldenSun 1 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 hours ago, BeautifulGame said: In the world cup final, at the end of 30th over we needed 124 runs at a required rate of 6.21. Of those req runs ,Gambhir scored 21 of 28 at a strike rate of 75.Whereas Dhoni scored 79 from 58 at a strike rate 137.Thats why Dhoni won MOM.Gambhir's was a great innings but Dhoni's one of the greatest knocks ever.When the crunch came,run rate went above 6,in a world cup final,Dhoni scored his runs. That was Gambhir's role to stay on the wicket and rotate so that Dhoni can finish the job on the other end. I am sure that is what Dhoni also wanted from Gambhir. It was evident and he stuck to that plan ever since he came to bat after the wicket fall of Tendulkar. Gambhir's whole innings was about making sure India rebuilds and he holds one end and not lose his wicket. Nothing to take away from Dhoni's inning which was brilliant under pressure, but to mention Gambhir's strike rate in the world cup final situation where it was his job to make sure we do not lose another wicket in the most pressure filled situation match even in our history, is absurd. Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 That was Gambhir's role to stay on the wicket and rotate so that Dhoni can finish the job on the other end. I am sure that is what Dhoni also wanted from Gambhir. It was evident and he stuck to that plan ever since he came to bat after the wicket fall of Tendulkar. Gambhir's whole innings was about making sure India rebuilds and he holds one end and not lose his wicket. Nothing to take away from Dhoni's inning which was brilliant under pressure, but to mention Gambhir's strike rate in the world cup final situation where it was his job to make sure we do not lose another wicket in the most pressure filled situation match even in our history, is absurd. The point was to differentiate why Dhoni's knock got mom instead Gambhir. Gambhir did a great job by holding up one end but Dhoni had to match the req rate which was much harder and hence that knock was once in a life time knock Link to comment
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