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At Oval, should Pujara-Shaw open?

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  1. 1. Should we open with Shaw and Pujara


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  • Poll closed on 09/07/2018 at 04:00 AM

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1 hour ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:

Dekh Lena Dhawan and Shaw will open.
KL ka Test career khatam

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Looking at the pattern, we may not see more than 1-2 changes. Or who knows come in with the same 11 

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At this time Shaw and anyone else can open. Take a punt between the too. Both Dhwan and Rahul haven’t been anything special that they are making any difference to the team. Shaw must br chosen as one player though. I would stick with therest of the batting order.

 

I would like to play jadeja ahead of Ashwin also.

 

 

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if Shaw and Pujara open, Rahane should come in at 3. This guy has no reservations about batting in the top order in LOIs and domestics, but shys away from doing that in SENA where he is supposed to be a key batsman in these type of conditions 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, mancalledsting said:

im a big fan of shaw and he should go to the top. but and big but- has he sorted out his back foot sliding technique. If not- jimmy Anderson will make mince meat of him. 

This would be an opportunity for him to also understand his weaknesses and take corrective measures. If he plays, he should be opening in the tests vs WI as well

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9 minutes ago, zen said:

This would be an opportunity for him to also understand his weaknesses and take corrective measures. If he plays, he should be opening in the tests vs WI as well

I though that too- but I am worried about ruining his confidence. I'd rather he be fully equipped before exposing himself. 

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21 minutes ago, mancalledsting said:

I though that too- but I am worried about ruining his confidence. I'd rather he be fully equipped before exposing himself. 

That would depend up on how management treats him. He should be told to not worry and use this as a learning experience 

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Just now, mancalledsting said:

yes- easy to say prospectively. How many are calling for KLR's head now? Also depends on his personality and how he reacts to set backs. 

Rahul is relatively far more experienced at international level .... not apples to apples 

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Throwing in new players in the middle of series does nothing good. But since the series is already over and we still lose no matter whom we select, might as well try Shaw. However if he fails miserably he shouldn't be called as hack or not prepared. Because only a freak batsmen can come and perform straightway in his debut series and that too in England.

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3 minutes ago, zen said:

Rahul is relatively far more experienced at international level .... not apples to apples 

 

Some people want Pant dropped too, despite 7 catches in his debut test.

 

Let any of the newbies fail even once ... and reactions can change drastically.

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5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Some people want Pant dropped too, despite 7 catches in his debut test.

 

Let any of the newbies fail even once ... and reactions can change drastically.

Pant should get the full series. We can't be slotting players based on the reactions, which are free 

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6 minutes ago, zen said:

Pant should get the full series. We can't be slotting players based on the reactions, which are free 

 

Reactions are not restricted to fans on cricket forums.

 

Top cricketers and journalists talk / write / tweet  similar things too.  

 

And this puts unnecessary pressure on the young-uns ... and sometimes influences selections as captains and coaches read the same.

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1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

Reactions are not restricted to fans on cricket forums.

 

Top cricketers and journalists talk / write / tweet  similar things too.  

 

And this puts unnecessary pressure on the young-uns ... and sometimes influences selections as captains and coaches read the same.

True. But I hope that they understand the situation as we are looking to groom talented young players 

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5 hours ago, sandsaims said:

Both Dhawan and KL have been useless but KL's catching has been a positive, i would open with SHaw and KL.

I understand our slip cordon is pretty average without KL but that is no reason to retain him considering his batting performances over last six overseas tests. Needs to be booted out to be given a reality check so that he can come back stronger.

 

Vihari deserves Chances . He does not play IPL and has highest first class average in the world currently. So shaw and vihari need a look in. Else we are conveying a very wrong message to youngsters that ranji performances doht matter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 9/3/2018 at 8:01 PM, zen said:

Rahul is relatively far more experienced at international level .... not apples to apples 

Rahul is almost a total newbie in the overseas test arena (in fact this is his first full series)- still people demoting him to no.6 etc. I thought overseas tests was the main area of concern. We shouldn't have any problems finding suitable openers in India. Also minor tweaks is understandable but his back foot problem is a fundamental flaw. 

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Rahul by showing his slips catching has probably bought himself more time. Fine to try shaw since the series is dead but if you want to properly decide on Dhawan and Rahul then play both, if they fail there can be no excuses for them anymore, if they make runs then they buy themselves more time.

 

i’d probably go with rahul for the slip catching and shaw, but Dhawan has been better than Rahul with the bat this series so it’s a bit harsh on him. dhawan and rahul have pretty similar experience in tests.

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No. KL needs to be persisted with. Drop Dhawan. He is incorrigible. Shaw and KL needs to be persisted with. I know KL is super low on confidence, but will come good soon if he can correct his mistakes. He needs to work on it big time and keep the girls and  modeling thing out for a few months.

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Rahul-Shaw should open. Rahul needs one full series, given his slip fielding revelation, he can be tried even in Aus.
 Dhawan can go home now.  If he doesn't have good technique after 5 years, he will never get it. Investment in Dhawan is a waste. Can't bat, can't field. He is there only for thigh claps only.

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Truth be told, opening in England is a nightmare and even more so for a left hander. All 3 left handers this series have had a torrid time with bowlers coming round the wicket angling it in and nipping it away. At times it is near enough impossible to play.

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