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Just now, test fan said:

Prithvi Shaw took a cough syrup and It had a banned substances which led to a suspension.

This is even worse. BCCI should have elaborate systems in place to ensure no player takes a drug without vetted from a dedicated team of experts.

 

All the supposed money and infrastructure and then we hear such silly stuff ALL the time.

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Just now, rtmohanlal said:

yes.. this is the way  to groom  a talented youngster, that too who has made such a promising start ..... the morons in the  set up are hell bent on destroying  Indian cricket//

Here we can't blame bcci ,it's player own mistake.

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There should be a handout highlighting which over the counter drugs to avoid. A table should list banned substances in one column, which drugs have them in the 2nd, and the punishment handed out for its use in the 3rd.  Anyone who plays cricket organized by BCCI should have it 

 

 

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The 19-year-old responded by saying that he inadvertently took the drug because of consuming an over-the-counter syrup for his cough. BCCI found his explanation satisfactory and ruled out the possibility of it being consumed as a performance enhancer. Based on these findings, the BCCI put forth a back-dated eight-month suspension which will go on till November 15, 2019.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.cricbuzz.com/amp/cricket-news/109146/prithvi-shaw-handed-backdated-suspension-for-doping-violation

Cough syrup ke lei ban bcci:facepalm::facepalm:

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8 minutes ago, zen said:

There should be a handout highlighting which over the counter drugs to avoid. A table should list banned substances in one column, which drugs have them in the 2nd, and the punishment handed out for its use in the 3rd.  Anyone who plays cricket organized by BCCI should have it 

 

 

Bcci is too lazy to do such research and they are a bunch of baniyas unwilling to outsource this work to a person or company. 

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11 minutes ago, zen said:

There should be a handout highlighting which over the counter drugs to avoid. A table should list banned substances in one column, which drugs have them in the 2nd, and the punishment handed out for its use in the 3rd.  Anyone who plays cricket organized by BCCI should have it 

 

 

Pretty sure this exists. And athletes are routinely educated about these things. 

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4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

So this means license for KL Rahul to fail in 3 more series. Shaw can only blame himself now.  Test opener spot was up for grabs.  Missed easy runs in home season now.  If BCCI picks guys like Panchal or Abhimanyu they will rack up runs against likes of BD.  Shaw can be way behind the pecking order then. 

why do u assume he ll fail only 

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22 minutes ago, zen said:

There should be a handout highlighting which over the counter drugs to avoid. A table should list banned substances in one column, which drugs have them in the 2nd, and the punishment handed out for its use in the 3rd.  Anyone who plays cricket organized by BCCI should have it 

 

 

Im Pretty sure BCCI do that 

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27 minutes ago, zen said:

There should be a handout highlighting which over the counter drugs to avoid. A table should list banned substances in one column, which drugs have them in the 2nd, and the punishment handed out for its use in the 3rd.  Anyone who plays cricket organized by BCCI should have it 

 

 

WADA have a full list of banned PEDs available publicly, listing every single different brand of medicine and whether it's banned or not would be an insane job and incredibly difficult to maintain. The ingredients lists are always there.

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49 minutes ago, sarchasm said:

My guess is someone in charge of his fitness/rehabilitation was careless enough to administer a dosage for quicker recovery. Possibly some kind of steroidal substance that's banned.

 

A careless but stupid and costly mistake.

That cannot happen because the threshold level detected in these tests indicate long-time usage.Moreover,look at his hairs -how can a 19 yr old kid get so much hair loss ?

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14 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

why do u assume he ll fail only 

His stats tell us that.In 56 test innings his average is merely 35.27. Also,his strike rate in 23 ODIs is only  79.10  with average of 39.11.Even his overall list A strike rate is just 74 - very low for current ODI standards.

If merit is considered ,he deserves place only in T20.

   

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11 minutes ago, vaul said:

That cannot happen because the threshold level detected in these tests indicate long-time usage.Moreover,look at his hairs -how can a 19 yr old kid get so much hair loss ?

Hair-loss is hereditary. I have seen 18 year olds with less hair. And there are plenty of steroid-junky Body builders with full patch of hair.

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8 minutes ago, vaul said:

His stats tell us that.In 56 test innings his average is merely 35.27. Also,his strike rate in 23 ODIs is only  79.10  with average of 39.11.Even his overall list A strike rate is just 74 - very low for current ODI standards.

If merit is considered ,he deserves place only in T20.

   

35 is not an avg of failure......its avg perfomance . Lets not forget he has 100 ins aus, eng, WI......that shows he has ability 

again he played most of his ODI cricket in a phase he was struggling...anyone who has seen him play wud not doubt his s/r 

 

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1 hour ago, test fan said:

Here we can't blame bcci ,it's player own mistake.

there is some thing called man management.Prithvi is still a teenager and hence not that mature. A very good professional sports body  should ensure that  its' players are followed so closely and guided in the right way in such adverse situations.

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3 minutes ago, Cricket_Fan said:

Hair-loss is hereditary. I have seen 18 year olds with less hair. And there are plenty of steroid-junky Body builders with full patch of hair.

Tobacco cause cancer but not all chronic users suffer from the disease.Steroids definitely lead to hair loss but some individuals are more susceptible than others.His father is not yet bald,how come this 19 yr old lost so much of hairs ?

Also, threshold level detected in these tests indicate long-time usage as these tests take care of moderate medicinal dosage.

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10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

35 is not an avg of failure......its avg perfomance . Lets not forget he has 100 ins aus, eng, WI......that shows he has ability 

again he played most of his ODI cricket in a phase he was struggling...anyone who has seen him play wud not doubt his s/r 

 

Moderate average of 35 in 56 innings is a poor indicator-does not matter where his centuries came.

His s/r in 68 list-A matches is only 74,with average of 37.78. That means those averaging around 50,with s/r near 90, in domestic list -A should be neglected !

He is only successful in t20 where you find easiest of pitches to bat,and he has good range of t20 shots.

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20 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

35 is not an avg of failure......its avg perfomance . Lets not forget he has 100 ins aus, eng, WI......that shows he has ability 

again he played most of his ODI cricket in a phase he was struggling...anyone who has seen him play wud not doubt his s/r 

 

Last 12 tests, average of 22. Lucky he is still getting picked. A LOI legend like Yuvraj got 40 tests, Domestic legend Jaffer got 31 tests, Dhawan has a far better record after 34 tests but is out of the team, Rohit with a better test record is rightly called a failure. 

 

Time me is running out for KL. WI Tests could be make or break for him in his Test career. LOIs no issues.

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1 minute ago, Lannister said:

So how does it work? Do ICC test players for any consumption before each series? Or is it entirely upto BCCI, in which case I am not sure the system is a genuine one. 

BCCI is an inept organisation especially under current CoA buffoons, but they have an exemplary record of dealing with issues like fixing, age fraud, chucking and doping. I’d always trust them to do the right thing in such cases.

 

Hope Shaw does not get lost to wilderness due to this issue. Will definitely suffer a setback but has age on his side if he wants to make a comeback later.

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36 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

35 is not an avg of failure......its avg perfomance . Lets not forget he has 100 ins aus, eng, WI......that shows he has ability 

again he played most of his ODI cricket in a phase he was struggling...anyone who has seen him play wud not doubt his s/r 

 

It's fair enough to say that he has been a utter failure in Shastri's tenure. Clearly he is not the same player he was in 2017 when he scored vital 50's at home vs Aus. WI series should be final chance for him. He has been given way too much longer rope to get his sh** together. 

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58 minutes ago, vaul said:

That cannot happen because the threshold level detected in these tests indicate long-time usage.Moreover,look at his hairs -how can a 19 yr old kid get so much hair loss ?

Terbutaline isn't a steroid. It's a medicine for asthma. Anyway, a batsman has no benefits from steroids.

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12 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Last 12 tests, average of 22. Lucky he is still getting picked. A LOI legend like Yuvraj got 40 tests, Domestic legend Jaffer got 31 tests, Dhawan has a far better record after 34 tests but is out of the team, Rohit with a better test record is rightly called a failure. 

 

Time me is running out for KL. WI Tests could be make or break for him in his Test career. LOIs no issues.

Spot on..  Can't believe people still justify his selection.  He is lucky there was no immediate test series after Aus tour. He'd have been dropped.  That off season has given him a lifeline. 

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45 minutes ago, vaul said:

Tobacco cause cancer but not all chronic users suffer from the disease.Steroids definitely lead to hair loss but some individuals are more susceptible than others.His father is not yet bald,how come this 19 yr old lost so much of hairs ?

Also, threshold level detected in these tests indicate long-time usage as these tests take care of moderate medicinal dosage.

You need to read up on how genes are transmitted, how gene expression skip generations, or stay dormant, taking into account both mother and father sides.

 

You literally have zero knowledge about Shaw's particular case, a shallow knowledge of steroids and genes if I were to be charitable, and yet spouting nonsense recklessly.

 

Maybe the bullshit gene expressing itself in you?

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13 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Spot on..  Can't believe people still justify his selection.  He is lucky there was no immediate test series after Aus tour. He'd have been dropped.  That off season has given him a lifeline. 

Agreed . Rituraj and others waiting . This ban might be a good thing for shaw . Needs to get fitter and can use the time to get fit 

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10 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

BCCI is an inept organisation especially under current CoA buffoons, but they have an exemplary record of dealing with issues like fixing, age fraud, chucking and doping. I’d always trust them to do the right thing in such cases.

 

Hope Shaw does not get lost to wilderness due to this issue. Will definitely suffer a setback but has age on his side if he wants to make a comeback later.

I am not sure that is the case here. Shaw surely must've known the consequences if BCCI had a strict system in place. At the moment he is out injured, and for some reason they are disclosing this matter very late and coincidentally his suspension period is overlapping with his injury layoff time. Something fishy is going on here and other domestic players have every right to take the matter seriously. 

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3 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Terbutaline isn't a steroid. It's a medicine for asthma. Anyway, a batsman has no benefits from steroids.

Terbutaline is an anabolic steroid- it increases the protein mass of muscles,thus,increasing the power.More power means batsmen can hit ball harder and longer.It is under the list of performance enhancing substances for a reason.

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14 minutes ago, vaul said:

Terbutaline is an anabolic steroid- it increases the protein mass of muscles,thus,increasing the power.More power means batsmen can hit ball harder and longer.It is under the list of performance enhancing substances for a reason.

terbutaline isnt an anabolic steroid.

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15 minutes ago, sarchasm said:

You need to read up on how genes are transmitted, how gene expression skip generations, or stay dormant, taking into account both mother and father sides.

 

You literally have zero knowledge about Shaw's particular case, a shallow knowledge of steroids and genes if I were to be charitable, and yet spouting nonsense recklessly.

 

Maybe the bullshit gene expressing itself in you?

Look,I am not biased against Shaw.He has performed reasonably well in past and still has chance to come clean -its not all over for him.

But why are you trying to defend a cheater so desperately. BCCI banned him for a reason -did I ask them to do so ? Do you think anti-dope tests are fake and you are above the scientists who designed these tests over decades ?

Narsingh Yadav,olympics qualified wrestler,was also making excuses like Shaw once found positive.

I am only against the dishonest means to enhance the performance.

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