zen Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) A trip to England has either been feast or famine for team India no matter what the format is. Memorable moments include a) Test series wins in 1971, 1986 and 2007, b) ODI World Cup win in 1983, and c) Champions Trophy win in 2013. There have been some exceptional individual performances as well including Kapil's batting both in Tests and ODIs, Vengsarkers 3 100s at Lords, Dravid's battling inning that won India the test in 2007, etc. If I had to pick 3 Indians players that I want them to do well, they would be: a) Pant: If groomed properly, he could give India the flexibility that for e.g. Gilchrist and Flower provided to Australia and Zimbabwe respectively b) Pandya: A talented player with a never say die attitude. Conjures up a magical inning every series. Has scored 1 100 and 3 50s in 10 test innings. Averages 37 with a SR of 85. Add to that the 5th bowling option that he provides, giving India the flexibility to either go in with 2+2 or 3+1 bowling options for the 4 specialist bowling slots. He is among the best fielders in India c) Kuldeep: Probably since the famous 4 spinners, Indian spinners have not had much success relatively speaking in non subcontinent conditions. Over the years, we have seen the likes of Warne and Murali spin their teams to victory in England. Can Kuldeep develop in to a spinner who can do well in most conditions? Kuldeep, of course, is not in that league yet but does have the ability to give Indian bowling attack the element of mystery I want these 3 players to be given the full series. They would take the WK, AR and 1 spinner slots. India would then have to pick the best options for the remaining 8 slots (5 batsmen + 3 bowlers) Edited July 26, 2018 by zen S_pace, Mosher and beetle 1 2 Link to comment
S_pace Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, zen said: A trip to England has either been feast or famine for team India no matter what the format is. Memorable moments include a) Test series wins in 1971, 1986 and 2007, b) ODI World Cup win in 1983, and c) Champions Trophy win in 2013. There have been some exceptional individual performances as well including Kapil's batting both in Tests and ODIs, Vensarkers 3 100s at Lords, Dravid's battling inning that won India the test in 2007, etc. If I had to pick 3 Indians players that I want them to do well, they would be: a) Pant: If groomed properly, he could give India the flexibility that for e,g. Gilchrist and Flower provided to Australia and Zimbabwe respectively b) Pandya: A talented player with a never say die attitude. Conjures up a magical inning every series. Has scored 1 100 and 3 50s in 10 test innings. Averages 37 with a SR of 85. Add to that the 5th bowling option that he provides, giving India the flexibility to either go in with 2+2 or 3+1 bowling options for the 4 specialist bowling slots. He is among the best fielders in India c) Kuldeep: Probably since the famous 4 spinners, Indian spinners have not had much success relatively speaking in subcontinent conditions. Over the years, we have seen the likes of Warne and Murali spin their teams to victory in England. Can Kuldeep develop in to a spinner who can do well in most conditions? Kuldeep, of course, is not in that league yet but does have the ability to give Indian bowling attack that element of mystery I want these 3 players to be given the full series. They would take the WK, AR and 1 spinner slots. India would then have to pick the best options for the remaining 8 slots (5 batsmen + 3 bowlers) Including these three I want to see Kohli , Rahul and DK and our two fast bowlers (Umesh and Shami) succeed in England. The Dark Horse, saik, zen and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Sooda Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I agree with both the above posts. Would also add that Id like to see Vijay, Pujara, Ashwin, Rahane and Ishant have great series too, along with the afore mentioned 6 guys. SK_IH, The Dark Horse, zen and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
sandeep Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 2 hours ago, zen said: A trip to England has either been feast or famine for team India no matter what the format is. Memorable moments include a) Test series wins in 1971, 1986 and 2007, b) ODI World Cup win in 1983, and c) Champions Trophy win in 2013. There have been some exceptional individual performances as well including Kapil's batting both in Tests and ODIs, Vengsarkers 3 100s at Lords, Dravid's battling inning that won India the test in 2007, etc. If I had to pick 3 Indians players that I want them to do well, they would be: a) Pant: If groomed properly, he could give India the flexibility that for e.g. Gilchrist and Flower provided to Australia and Zimbabwe respectively b) Pandya: A talented player with a never say die attitude. Conjures up a magical inning every series. Has scored 1 100 and 3 50s in 10 test innings. Averages 37 with a SR of 85. Add to that the 5th bowling option that he provides, giving India the flexibility to either go in with 2+2 or 3+1 bowling options for the 4 specialist bowling slots. He is among the best fielders in India c) Kuldeep: Probably since the famous 4 spinners, Indian spinners have not had much success relatively speaking in non subcontinent conditions. Over the years, we have seen the likes of Warne and Murali spin their teams to victory in England. Can Kuldeep develop in to a spinner who can do well in most conditions? Kuldeep, of course, is not in that league yet but does have the ability to give Indian bowling attack the element of mystery I want these 3 players to be given the full series. They would take the WK, AR and 1 spinner slots. India would then have to pick the best options for the remaining 8 slots (5 batsmen + 3 bowlers) Two of these are unlikely to play mite than a game if at all. zen 1 Link to comment
Brainfade Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 My simple rooting guide: Are they representing India? If yes, root for them. If not, root against them. If not *and* if yes to Pakistan or Australia, hate on them. I will root for whoever suits up for India. All 11, plus the drinks guy and coaches. Link to comment
zen Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Brainfade said: My simple rooting guide: Are they representing India? If yes, root for them. If not, root against them. If not *and* if yes to Pakistan or Australia, hate on them. I will root for whoever suits up for India. All 11, plus the drinks guy and coaches. That’s understood though .... the thread is more about the 3 players you would want in the 11 and therefore also make an impact Link to comment
Brainfade Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 hour ago, zen said: That’s understood though .... the thread is more about the 3 players you would want in the 11 and therefore also make an impact Rahul, Kuldeep Yadav and Umesh Yadav. I would especially love to see Umesh be dominant and completely outperform the home team's fast bowlers. Mosher and zen 1 1 Link to comment
philcric Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Rahul - really need someone to step up in the top order in away test tours. The others (Vijay, Dhawan, Pujara) are dodgy atm for one or the other reasons. DK/Pant - whoever gets to play as WK-Bat Kuldeep - a wicket taking wrist spinner would be great to have for away tests esp. Australia. zen and express bowling 2 Link to comment
sourab10forever Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 DK over Pant. Apart from that I agree. Pandya at #7 and Kuldeep as the mystery spinner. zen 1 Link to comment
saik Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I am rooting for Rahul Dk Bumrah The Dark Horse, zen and express bowling 1 2 Link to comment
zen Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 Next 3 (Tier 2) d) Pujara: Test specialist. Worked to gain experience in England so I hope that the effort that he put in pays off e) Rahane: Test specialist. One of the batsmen who can do well for Ind in non subcontinent conditions f) Rahul: Gifted batsman. Would like to see him do justice to his talent Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Rahul, Pujara and Yadav. Pujara with 2 failures on English, is on a do or die tour. Rahul succeeding means Dhawan is out of test team. Yadav should be our mainstay, jas pace and needs to prove, this will also keep out IS and to an extent out zen 1 Link to comment
prudent_kreeda Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Actaully success of Pant at Test level will send a lot tremors . This will mean he will almost need to be guaranteed a permanent spot on T20 & 50 over ODI. ( But Team mgtment may still block him out) That means Some big Old tree have to fall , due to this Tremor ! Thats why we should accept that Pant wont be given chance in this Tour . A very remote chance , if at all DK messes up big time , even in that case may be given 1 test express bowling and zen 1 1 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 13 hours ago, saik said: I am rooting for Rahul Dk Bumrah +1 saik and zen 2 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Kuldeep (So that we can forget ashwin/jadeja forever) DK Bumrah zen 1 Link to comment
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