Not sure if Dhoni is still a good T20 player: Ganguly *POLLS ADDED*

[Sujithmb13]

How is dhoni a better t20 player than Rohit and Raina?Okay leave yuvi(he is washed up) but seriously how on earth does dhoni deserve a place above raina and rohit.Has dhoni played any iconic knocks in t20 like Rohit and Raina?

[Sujithmb13]

Dhoni scored 2 ducks in d same world cup.He is a bilateral series merchant.Not a great world cup player

[Shunya]

It is a fair assessment of the current situation. Dhoni is not at his best and with age catching up, we need to try Pant or someone else. They should have already done this during the huge home season, but unfortunately neither Virat or other think tank were ready to take the risk.

[sergio04]

dhoni was always flopped in world cup barring final of 2011

[jalebi_bhai]

MS is done at T20I level. This is not a statiscal argument. He was always above average as a batsman at T20I level and his game has declined further. Still our best keeper in the format though but that alone is unfortunately not enough.

[Stuge]

Lol

 

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[putrevus]

Dhoni was done as a T20 player in 2009, it took this long for people to realize he was/is horrible T20 player. Now that he cannot hide behind success of his team so is getting totally exposed.Even if he makes some runs in few matches I hope we have seen the last of Dhoni in T20s.

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Dhoni was done as a T20 player in 2009, it took this long for people to realize he was/is horrible T20 player. Now that he cannot hide behind success of his team so is getting totally exposed.Even if he makes some runs in few matches I hope we have seen the last of Dhoni in T20s.

He's still good enough for IPL.  Just not good enough to be starting in India's best XI, given our rich batting options.  For T20, I would put even Saha ahead of him - better gloveman - equal as a bat.  

 

Pant

Kishan

Samson/Saha

Dhoni

Parthiv

 

[putrevus]

7 hours ago, laaloo said:

Super Bhabi*

who is super Bhabi?

[putrevus]

2 minutes ago, sandeep said:

He's still good enough for IPL.  Just not good enough to be starting in India's best XI, given our rich batting options.  For T20, I would put even Saha ahead of him - better gloveman - equal as a bat.  

 

Pant

Kishan

Samson/Saha

Dhoni

Parthiv

 

Don't care about his IPL, as long as some owner wants to pay him he can play till 50 . I have no problems with his IPL but I have lot of problems with him playing for India in T20s he already costed India at least one cup both as a captain and player.

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Don't care about his IPL, as long as some owner wants to pay him he can play till 50 . I have no problems with his IPL but I have lot of problems with him playing for India in T20s he already costed India at least one cup both as a captain and player.

More than one, by my count.   But he's won us a T20 cup too.  and he's still someone I admire overall for his contribution to Indian cricket.

[sandeep]

3 hours ago, Viper said:

Irony is sachin chamchas talking about WC 

 

Remember when Sachin made 7(26) against BD that ended up putting pressure on following batsmen and Got IND knocked out in 2007 WC 

 

Wonder if Sachin has ever played for Team instead of himself 

when was the last time you posted anything other than trolling nonsense?  I somehow remember you as a decent poster, but that seems to be ancient history.  

[Sidhoni]

41 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Don't care about his IPL, as long as some owner wants to pay him he can play till 50 . I have no problems with his IPL but I have lot of problems with him playing for India in T20s he already costed India at least one cup both as a captain and player.

 

36 minutes ago, sandeep said:

More than one, by my count.   But he's won us a T20 cup too.  and he's still someone I admire overall for his contribution to Indian cricket.

By costing a WC you mean we would have won if not for him and he was the sole reason for the loss?

[putrevus]

17 minutes ago, Sidhoni said:

 

By costing a WC you mean we would have won if not for him and he was the sole reason for the loss?

As a captain he did play very vital role in losing matches for India, no is  sole reason for losses or win. But as captain and WK he had much bigger role in India's losses.

 

 

Was Yuvraj sole reason for 2014 world cup loss, why was he coming ahead of Dhoni and Raina. Why did Dhoni keep the same bowling combination even though Mishra stunk in semis. So he played vital role in all these decisions.When he gets praise for his self promotion in 2011 finals he should get blame when things don't work also.

 

Problem is Dhoni like Sachin has become above selectors, no one questioned Sachin about his place in his team even though he kept stinking up the joint.People kept quoting Sachin still was blah blah and blah overlooking how much he stunk, same thing here Dhoni always was lousy T20 player and his winning with CSK somehow masked his T20 deficiencies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 13, 2017 by putrevus

[jalebi_bhai]

I think we might need a poll for this thread. Let direct democracy decide this. 

[Sidhoni]

11 minutes ago, putrevus said:

As a captain he did play very vital role in losing matches for India, no is  sole reason for losses or win. But as captain and WK he had much bigger role in India's losses.

 

 

Was Yuvraj sole reason for 2014 world cup loss, why was he coming ahead of Dhoni and Raina. Why did Dhoni keep the same bowling combination even though Mishra stunk in semis. So he played vital role in all these decisions.When he gets praise for his self promotion in 2011 finals he should get blame when things don't work also.

 

Problem is Dhoni like Sachin has become above selectors, no one questioned Sachin about his place in his team even though he kept stinking up the joint.People kept quoting Sachin still was blah blah and blah overlooking how much he stunk, same thing here Dhoni always was lousy T20 player and his winning with CSK somehow masked his T20 deficiencies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok so not the sole reason. 

Takes some blame, agreed.

 

But saying he cost us the WC is a stretch. It would be Iike saying Sangakarra cost SL 2011 WC.(Comparison with 2014 WT20).

[sandeep]

By costing a WC you mean we would have won if not for him and he was the sole reason for the loss?

 

This is what I wrote back in 2009 about his captaincy in the world cup

 

http://catchthelight-tbd.blogspot.com/2009/06/team-india-crash-out-of-t20-world-cup.html?m=1

 

 

 

And I was there in Barbados when we lost games against Australia and west Indies thanks to MS making spinners bowl against the wind so that slogs would carry that much farther with the wind and go for 6 instead of being caught.

 

 

 

Marginal decisions, you would claim. And rightly so. But if you get credit for the marginal ones, you get blame as well.

[Sidhoni]

8 minutes ago, sandeep said:

 

This is what I wrote back in 2009 about his captaincy in the world cup

 

http://catchthelight-tbd.blogspot.com/2009/06/team-india-crash-out-of-t20-world-cup.html?m=1

 

 

 

And I was there in Barbados when we lost games against Australia and west Indies thanks to MS making spinners bowl against the wind so that slogs would carry that much farther with the wind and go for 6 instead of being caught.

 

 

 

Marginal decisions, you would claim. And rightly so. But if you get credit for the marginal ones, you get blame as well.

True.

 

Getting blame is fine.

 

As I said in an earlier post, saying he "cost us the WC" is a stretch.

[jalebi_bhai]

9 minutes ago, Viper said:

Then poll should be made on Facebook or twitter not on a forum full of sachin chamchas.. its obvious what the result is going to be 

Why are you so worried man? Poll will be added only if @Texan wants to.

[Sidhoni]

8 minutes ago, jalebi_bhai said:

Why are you so worried man? Poll will be added only if @Texan wants to.

Why bother, I'll just tell you the results

 

Pro Dhoni - 5 votes

 

Anti Dhoni - Rest