Global.Baba Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Biryani at 73(80) at #4 is the culprit on a flat pitch At the risk of being called a Rayudu sympathizer :giggle: his knock was the least of our problems. In the context of the game 73(80) after the loss of 2 early wickets is alright. Yes he still sucks and is not a long term option. However 33(38) after the solid foundation in the slog overs from Jaddu- Dhoni is criminal especially they are our finishers/ lower order hitters and are probably not going anywhere. Umesh’s braindead bowling. Match would have been over on the 48th over itself, the guy bowler 2 half volleys and a full toss and was lucky to get away with it. Also Dropping Khaleel for Umesh who is not a ODi bowler thanks to our braindead team management. We have a lot more issues and the fact that no 8-11 none can hold the bat is another big problem. Edited October 25, 2018 by Global.Baba Link to comment
Vilander Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Umesh Dhoni Jadeja. Rayudu is not the problem Laaloo 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Global.Baba said: At the risk of being called a Rayudu sympathizer :giggle: his knock was the least of our problems. In the context of the game 73(80) after the loss of 2 early wickets is alright. Yes he still sucks and is not a long term option. However 33(38) after the solid foundation in the slog overs from Jaddu- Dhoni is criminal especially they are our finishers/ lower order hitters and are probably not going anywhere. Umesh’s braindead bowling. Match would have been over on the 48th over itself, the guy bowler 2 half volleys and a full toss and was lucky to get away with it. Also Dropping Khaleel for Umesh who is not a ODi bowler thanks to our braindead team management. We have a lot more issues and the fact that no 8-11 none can hold the bat is another big problem. i ll not blame Dhoni for yesterday, he didnt do any damage, it was purely Jadeja. At that time hitting has to be done from both ends but that was not happening and it makes a difference of 20-25 runs. Also Rayudu was playing too many dots, number 4 has to be more dynamic.This guy is run of a mill player as of now, he needs to be more aggressive against spinners atleast and get regular boundaries to jutsify that no. 4 tag AuxiliA and Laaloo 1 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 27 minutes ago, SK_IH said: i ll not blame Dhoni for yesterday, he didnt do any damage, it was purely Jadeja. At that time hitting has to be done from both ends but that was not happening and it makes a difference of 20-25 runs. Also Rayudu was playing too many dots, number 4 has to be more dynamic.This guy is run of a mill player as of now, he needs to be more aggressive against spinners atleast and get regular boundaries to jutsify that no. 4 tag Coincidentally they(hamnamkhors)all come from csk(cheaters) family SK_IH, UrmiSinhaRay and Jimmy Cliff 1 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Csk nexus beetle, velu, diehardpacer and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Global.Baba said: At the risk of being called a Rayudu sympathizer :giggle: his knock was the least of our problems. In the context of the game 73(80) after the loss of 2 early wickets is alright. Yes he still sucks and is not a long term option. However 33(38) after the solid foundation in the slog overs from Jaddu- Dhoni is criminal especially they are our finishers/ lower order hitters and are probably not going anywhere. Umesh’s braindead bowling. Match would have been over on the 48th over itself, the guy bowler 2 half volleys and a full toss and was lucky to get away with it. Also Dropping Khaleel for Umesh who is not a ODi bowler thanks to our braindead team management. We have a lot more issues and the fact that no 8-11 none can hold the bat is another big problem. Baba you have spent your entire life in the foothills of Himalayas I urge you to send a package of jadibuti which can rouse the dead tissues of our braindead management For the sake of billions just do it Global.Baba 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 4 hours ago, CSK Fan said: This keeps repeating every match except when 2 out of our top 3 click. This is the exact same thing which happened yesterday but yesterday was not a flat pitch, at least in first innings. it looked like 275-280 pitch. Link to comment
CSK Fan Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 40 minutes ago, rkt.india said: but yesterday was not a flat pitch, at least in first innings. it looked like 275-280 pitch. I am a bit confused whether that was actualky true or rayadu or kohli took it easy and made it seem so Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 31 minutes ago, CSK Fan said: I am a bit confused whether that was actualky true or rayadu or kohli took it easy and made it seem so there is one thing for sure they need to be more active during 11-40 overs. These 30 overs are deciding the game now with only 4 fielders outside, not so last 10 overs. CSK Fan 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 29 minutes ago, CSK Fan said: I am a bit confused whether that was actualky true or rayadu or kohli took it easy and made it seem so Yes,it was Rayudu,he should have attacked more,the whole responsibility of quick scoring was left only with Kohli,kohli knows about it if he fails,whole lineup will fall like a pack of cards,he had to remain till the end ,Rayudu scoring less than run a ball was crime,that was not a very hard pitch to score on Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 4 hours ago, SK_IH said: i ll not blame Dhoni for yesterday, he didnt do any damage, it was purely Jadeja. At that time hitting has to be done from both ends but that was not happening and it makes a difference of 20-25 runs. Also Rayudu was playing too many dots, number 4 has to be more dynamic.This guy is run of a mill player as of now, he needs to be more aggressive against spinners atleast and get regular boundaries to jutsify that no. 4 tag Rayudu is not the guy. Rahul should have been backed in that slot or the slot should have gone to a younger player with more upside. That is a universal fact everyone agrees with. However, 73(80) when the score is 40/2 in the 9th over doesn’t look as bad as 20(24) with one 6 coming in at 179 for 3 in the 33rd. Anyways I do agree that Jadeja’s innings was the worst among all. I missed India’s batting in the middle overs, so may be you have a better context than me. I am solely going by the scorecard. UrmiSinhaRay and Rasgulla 1 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: Rayudu is not the guy. Rahul should have been backed in that slot or the slot should have gone to a younger player with more upside. That is a universal fact everyone agrees with. However, 73(80) when the score is 40/2 in the 9th over doesn’t look as bad as 20(24) with one 6 coming in at 179 for 3 in the 33rd. Anyways I do agree that Jadeja’s innings was the worst among all. I missed India’s batting in the middle overs, so may be you have a better context than me. I am solely going by the scorecard. Rayudu was playing too many dots, especially against spinners and knowing his prowess against the spinners, he should have been more proactive and tried for more boundaries later on he went into slog mode almost, where i thought he could have paced his innings much better overall. Though if Dhoni and Pant had contributed more, his innings would have proved more useful but both couldnt carry on Link to comment
Khota Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 9 hours ago, express bowling said: He has a FC. average of 52 after 28 matches. So he is a specialist batsman. There are plenty of batsman who can do better. He can play as wkt kpr anyday. this is all done to accomodate the grandfather in team. Shame. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 27 minutes ago, Khota said: There are plenty of batsman who can do better. Maybe or maybe not. I don't know. But he is a good specialist batsman. 27 minutes ago, Khota said: He can play as wkt kpr anyday. this is all done to accomodate the grandfather in team. Shame. True. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Khota said: There are plenty of batsman who can do better. He can play as wkt kpr anyday. this is all done to accomodate the grandfather in team. Shame. No there are none who can do the job of big hitting better than him. Link to comment
SK_IH Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, MultiB48 said: we arent winning this wc with this team ,the middle order is below par and will be discarded after the wc .Bring in gill at no 4 and give him some experience of playing in the wc.i would try pant as opener in place of shikhar and pandya in place of dhoni . For better of team Virat needs to drop down to 4 and Dhoni needs to be dropped.If these two events can happen, many problems could be solved. beetle and diehardpacer 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 30 minutes ago, SK_IH said: For better of team Virat needs to drop down to 4 and Dhoni needs to be dropped.If these two events can happen, many problems could be solved. Yes, Kohli is being selfish here. There is no better #4 than Kohli atm. Rahul can be accommodated at 3 then. Switchblade, Global.Baba, Suhaan and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 11 hours ago, rkt.india said: No there are none who can do the job of big hitting better than him. Disagree. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Khota said: Disagree. care to name any? Link to comment
SK_IH Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 3 hours ago, MultiB48 said: not in this sort of form .He should bat up the order and face as many balls as possible and maximize this form ,he is avg nearly 100 at no 3 over the last 2-3 yrs ,no one will be able to replace him and match such consistency .once this form declines and he starts to avg around 40-50 maybe then . I would actually like to see Rohit and Kohli at 3 and 4 respectively. A maverick at top and then players capable hitting big at 4 and 5 , preferably Hardik and Pant. I used to believe in "best player face as many balls as possible" theory, however that has relevance in T20 format but not in ODIs in this era ( 300 balls are plenty). Virat has shown no desire to make a solid team, instead he has backed the tried and tested formula to avoid defeats.This is where i like someone like Morgan, he consistently drops himself to try new combo/players and what a team they have at the moment.Ind is capable of much more I think but we have been way too diffident. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
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