SecondSlip Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 100% Agree with you Virat. No explosive side in their right mind would select Rahane in their ODI squad Link to comment
ThePhenomenal1 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Whats the point of batting till jadeja at 8 when you bat so slow and use up wasted deliveries? Even if you're 30/40-3 you can get to 300 sscomp32, Ankit_sharma03, Lord and 1 other 4 Link to comment
surajmal Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Its a smokescreen. Kohli is going to go into full hobart mode tomorrow. King Tendulkar 1 Link to comment
jusarrived Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 15 hours ago, Unstable Joe said: I want to see Rohit become ODI &T20 captain. Can't be worse than Kohli. Non playing I hope Link to comment
sscomp32 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 8 hours ago, surajmal said: Its a smokescreen. Kohli is going to go into full hobart mode tomorrow. He needs to win the toss for that which he just can't. I don't even remember a match he won the toss Link to comment
Cricketics Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 On 6/10/2017 at 4:21 AM, King Tendulkar said: If you look at interview he does say that in hindsight there were periods when should have accelerated more . But of course those bits don't get reported here on icf lol the mob wants blood after one . I repeat one loss lol People make too much of these freakin one liners and when it gets converted into article headlines, some members just go crazy and find a reason to even criticize one of the greatest ODI batsmen the world has seen thus far - Kohli. Thats right, reading through the comments in this thread, and I see few members, not all criticizing even Kohli's batting approach lol. Kohli's approach is probabaly one of the best in ODI cricket history, his ability to take single and get off strike and rotate around. People need to calm down. We need change and better hitters, but Kohli is the best thing happend to Indian cricket as far ad captaincy is concerned. These people shoild name a better captain to captain India right now. He doesn't mean what exactly the one liners suggest. If he doesn't like hitters he won't have included youngsters like pandya who can hit and add explosiveness to our lower batting order. He likes all of it and hence Jadhav and Pandya are part of our batting order. Stick it up folks. This guy is going to be your captain for a very long time. Like it or not. And he will go down as the greatest of our era too. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 3:46 PM, express bowling said: If one team plays explosive cricket throughout the 50 overs And another team plays explosive cricket for only 10 overs And the pitch is so flat ( as is the usual case nowadays in most ODIs ) that too many wickets are not lost even while playing explosively Then which team will win more games ?? Kohli needs to ponder over this situation. I think the word explosive had been blown out of proportion. Kohli likes aggressiveness and ability for the batting to score fast and hence he has Jadhav and Pandya down the order to hit. What he is suggesting is that there is a difference between players. He is trying to back his slow starters like Rohit Sharma, who has been India's best opener in a while. Problem is we can't drop sharma. And hence Kohli is backing. You don't want him to come out and say "our openers were negative and started slow even though they gave us good start." Dhawan and Sharma are the best openers in India and hence have to be backed and can't be criticized. Also, Rohit isn't still back yet to his best so, we have to lice with what we have. He is still scoring big runs and that is a plus. King Tendulkar 1 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 8:50 AM, rkt.india said: Kohli's mentality and batting approach is rubbing on others too. You mean to say Kohli's own batting approach is wrong? One of the greatest ODI bats needs to bat differently now in the middle order to please people? Ultimate_Game and express bowling 2 Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, Cricketics said: I think the word explosive had been blown out of proportion. Kohli likes aggressiveness and ability for the batting to score fast and hence he has Jadhav and Pandya down the order to hit. What he is suggesting is that there is a difference between players. He is trying to back his slow starters like Rohit Sharma, who has been India's best opener in a while. Problem is we can't drop sharma. And hence Kohli is backing. You don't want him to come out and say "our openers were negative and started slow even though they gave us good start." Dhawan and Sharma are the best openers in India and hence have to be backed and can't be criticized. Also, Rohit isn't still back yet to his best so, we have to lice with what we have. He is still scoring big runs and that is a plus. Excellent point . What people don't realise as a captain you can't hammer your team in public to press . Behind closed doors the conversations are had here rohit and Dhawan will open batting . So publicly needs to back them and their methods . Also again the headline is basically fake as the whole interview was more intellectual then this line . As he said shoudl have accelerated more in periods Cricketics and Unstable Joe 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Cricketics said: I think the word explosive had been blown out of proportion. Kohli likes aggressiveness and ability for the batting to score fast and hence he has Jadhav and Pandya down the order to hit. What he is suggesting is that there is a difference between players. He is trying to back his slow starters like Rohit Sharma, who has been India's best opener in a while. Problem is we can't drop sharma. And hence Kohli is backing. You don't want him to come out and say "our openers were negative and started slow even though they gave us good start." Dhawan and Sharma are the best openers in India and hence have to be backed and can't be criticized. Also, Rohit isn't still back yet to his best so, we have to lice with what we have. He is still scoring big runs and that is a plus. I am not basing my comments on this interview, which can be blown out of proportion. As we have discussed before, I am not happy with our ODI batting approach for the last 3 years. Par scores have increased a lot these days in ODIs. SR of batsmen have increased, teams are scoring more runs than before in the 1 to 40 over period. Our team management has to be mindful of that. We are too dependant on the last 10 over acceleration. Edited June 11, 2017 by express bowling sandeep 1 Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Well pant can open in coming years and then we will either be 0-1 or 100-0 loss after 5 overs anyway battng ting second now so just bat according to target Link to comment
Cricketics Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 51 minutes ago, express bowling said: I am not basing my comments on this interview, which can be blown out of proportion. As we have discussed before, I am not happy with our ODI batting approach for the last 3 years. Par scores have increased a lot in this time in ODIs. SR of batsmen have increased, teams are scoring more runs than before in the 1 to 40 over period. Our team management has to be mindful of that. We are too dependant on the last 10 over acceleration. Agreed and it will change slowly and steadily. Pant has come in t20s, Jadhav and Pandya in 50 overs, slowly their is transition going on and I am sure there will be a continuous transition for good. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 By the way I thought our batting was very explosive v Pakistan Lord 1 Link to comment
goose Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 It occurs to me that on wickets where 350 is par and 375 is gettable you need to preserve wickets and go 'slow' in the way our openers have done, and RSA have done in today's game. The risk of significantly under-achieving by say 100 runs is that much greater in such conditions through loss of early wickets. In conditions where 300 is par and 325 gettable which seems to be the case in this tournament then actually putting your foot on the gas earlier is the more sensible strategy. A ball is more likely to have your name on it throughout the innings and the opportunity cost of not being able to go hell for leather in the last 10 is diminished on a harder wicket. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Anyway as many were discussing . We need a new skipepr as India keep losing under kohli .... so ..... New guy 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Because of negative attitude to play faster we need to chase in important games. Otherwise we will end up with below par score most of the times. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Pollack said: Because of negative attitude to play faster we need to chase in important games. Otherwise we will end up with below par score most of the times. What a pathetic moan Pollack 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said: What a pathetic moan SA did a India today. Ended up with neither runs nor wickets. Win means everything's OK. sscomp32 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Kohli is one hundred percent right, explosiveness is not India's strong point.India's strength is their top order and their ability to score big hundreds. Pollack, King Tendulkar and Ultimate_Game 2 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 1 minute ago, putrevus said: Kohli is one hundred percent right, explosiveness is not India's strong point.India's strength is their top order and their ability to score big hundreds. And if we do it we will win more often than not King Tendulkar 1 Link to comment
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