rageaddict Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Eish, Saffron Terrorism is responsible for Manchester attacks too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 So, by keeping nationalists out of Kashmir, Appeasing locals with Article 370, financial aid even for terrorists, no elections with prez rule, bowing down to hurriyat means better results in Kashmir? So we maintain status quo, keep feeding Kashmir and keep out of it, we attain peace there.. What a load of bull..please pass the pipe you have been smoking. At least now, Jammu with a legit govt is doing better with a local govt in place and let Kashmir valley go to dogs. Anyhow there was Army (Prez) rule there since 1989 when insurgency started and pandits were chased out, all in the name of kashmiriyat. Let's have peace in ladakh and jammu and let kashmir valley the miserable place they choose to be in. keep pelting stones and have no food in the plate. asterix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 http://www.dainikbharat.org/2017/07/50_11.html Harshal Desai was the driver of the bus, not Salim. Salim was local guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 WTF is this Kashmiriyat? What does it even mean? randomGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 5 hours ago, diga said: ^ and this bugger has PhD and a hindu sage's surname... education doesnt reform the religion Exactly. Western countries spend the last 20 years thinking education can solve it but failed, their society is in mass because of this failure. A default intolerant and fundamental violent thing cannot be managed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 36 minutes ago, rkt.india said: WTF is this Kashmiriyat? What does it even mean? Propaganda word , a condescending word used by liberals to say the fight in kashmir is about an identity of kashmir. Nonsense word. Baaki states mein identity crisis hain kya? randomGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 http://www.dainikbharat.org/2017/07/50_11.html Harshal Desai was the driver of the bus, not Salim. Salim was local guide. That's not true. Another of the Dainik Bhaskar report mentioned Harshal as the helper who was siting near the door and he closed the door before the bus drove off to safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 http://www.dainikbharat.org/2017/07/50_11.html Harshal Desai was the driver of the bus, not Salim. Salim was local guide. Salim isnt even kashmiri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, sarchasm said: Struggling to get the whole covfefe on this bus driver Salim. He was under fire just like the rest of the passengers and he did what most normal functioning humans would do when put in a FIGHT or FLIGHT situation - drive the f@rk away. It's not like he had the time to sit and ponder the religion of his passengers and solve his majhabi dilemma. media likes a secular heroes and communal bad guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 RIP BeautifulGame 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 2 hours ago, sarchasm said: Struggling to get the whole covfefe on this bus driver Salim. He was under fire just like the rest of the passengers and he did what most normal functioning humans would do when put in a FIGHT or FLIGHT situation - drive the f@rk away. It's not like he had the time to sit and ponder the religion of his passengers and solve his majhabi dilemma. Even if you appreciate Salim the driver, he must be questioned as to how he was driving the bus at 8:30 p.m when there are well established rules over there that prohibits civilian vehicles between 7 p.m and dawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: http://www.dainikbharat.org/2017/07/50_11.html Harshal Desai was the driver of the bus, not Salim. Salim was local guide. Nah, the co passengers of that bus all vouched for Salim bhai the driver who drove through a volley of bullets. Dainikbharat is clearly bluffing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBN Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, The Outsider said: Kashmir issue has been handled so ineptly by the Modi government that this was bound to happen. Well meaning and educated people who understand Kashmir have been calling out this government's stupidity in dealing with the situation ever since they came to power. Fair warnings were given to the administration that their handling of the Kashmir situation will take things back to the 90s. We are pretty close to being there since this was the first such attack after 2000. In their efforts to stir up the Hindutva rhetoric, innocent people are dying everywhere. Kashmir is boiling today and once again becoming a hotbed of militancy because of the unholy union of two extremist parties in power in the state and RSS stooges in power at the center. A born and bred Sanghi, Ram Madhav, is so called coordinating center and state relationships. Sure, it's easy to blame Pakistan and LeT but remember that the situation in Kashmir had been improving gradually every year for over a decade till these bunch of clowns came to power. Driving up the rhetoric on nationalism and Islamism will ensure that they will enjoy mass support. But in the process, they will destroy Kashmir and slowly the country as well. This is an administration which has a part time defense minister, and when it did have a full time one it was Joker Parrikar. The NSA has bungled so many times be it Pathankot to the latest attacks that his biggest achievement has been to pick up the papers Modi dropped at the white house. These people have blood on their hands, in this case of innocent pilgrims - building on the consensual position in Kashmir that was yielding results over the last decade or so what all they had to do. But ratcheting up the rhetoric to feed their vote bank is more important than anything else. Their very existence and relevance lies in divisions and conflicts. If there is consensus and peace, RSS and BJP become irrelevant even for their Hindutva vote bank. I dunno how you can blame the modi government for the attack by the terrorists? And what exactly is the endgame for Kashmir from India's point of view? That eventually is the answer to what approach India wants to take. Either India wants to keep Kashmir or let it become a separate country/or join Pakistan. There's two options : 1) current methodology in letting things be (i.e appease the terrorists) 2) take strong action and eradicate terrorism/separatists Option 2 will put India as the focus of the world. It's a catch 22 situation. Punjab had a bloody decade where the police could do whatever they wanted. Huge human rights violations happends, even innocents in the thousands disappeared in 'encounters',etc. And remember that was the time of no media/social media and even then media was blocked. What exactly is the purpose of special status like article 370,etc I don't see India isn't going to win back Kashmir with the soft war. Kashmiris may have condemned this attack on the pilgrims but do they also condemn terrorist attacks on the army/police in the region? The youth pelt stones in return to the authority. [edit] btw last attack was in 2007 IIRC Edited July 12, 2017 by PBN asterix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBN Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 5 hours ago, rkt.india said: http://www.dainikbharat.org/2017/07/50_11.html Harshal Desai was the driver of the bus, not Salim. Salim was local guide. is this a reputable site? seems like misinformation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Why do these media types always publish this type of info. Only the security forces should know this stuff. Sidhoni 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Leave the driver and conductor/helper alone. One did not let terrorist to enter into bus. Other showed presence of mind to drive the bus as fast as he could and take it to safety. PBN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Since terrorists were trying to board the bus. It could have become a case of hijacking and things would have got a lot uglier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBN Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 4 hours ago, sarchasm said: Struggling to get the whole covfefe on this bus driver Salim. He was under fire just like the rest of the passengers and he did what most normal functioning humans would do when put in a FIGHT or FLIGHT situation - drive the f@rk away. It's not like he had the time to sit and ponder the religion of his passengers and solve his majhabi dilemma. It's a heroic effort no doubt. Just like a pliot gets the credit/responsibility for the safety of the passengers, same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBN Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, sarchasm said: Boss, the kerfuffle is not over his act but media highlighting his religion. What's the message here? That Muslim's aren't capable of basic human decencies and thus every rare act must be highlighted? Media obviously trying to look at the positives to quell any hatred I suppose. When muslim terrorists strike, media says terrorism has no religion but then focuses on the religion of the driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Reports are that Pakistan is going on a dangerous path by arming the terrorists with chemical weapons! It's like a blackmail. Return to the dialogs else will create havoc. The opposition parties too are waiting eagerly for more bloodshed... Now a days the only option for opposition parties to come back on Modi & BJP is to get Pak & China creating trouble for India... On the other hand hate BJP pussyfooting around corruption cases against Vadra and Gandhis... Sometimes I feel that both BJP & Congress have some sort of understanding... BJP is not a Right Wing party. It's just a Centre Right party. It's unfortunate that they project themselves as RW... also unfortunate that India doesn't has any real RW party... Tibarn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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