Moeen Ali

[SUMO]

7 minutes ago, Vijy said:

I think it's more about old boys club. Adil Rashid should have been selected in place of Ali for same role, but was not chosen.

Rashid is even mediocre though. He will serve long hops and pies for smith and marsh.

Only good thing about him is being a wrist spinner.

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, SUMO said:

Rashid is even mediocre though. He will serve long hops and pies for smith and marsh.

Only good thing about him is being a wrist spinner.

he is ordinary but can atleast pick up wkts against tail.

[Khota]

On 12/6/2017 at 7:07 PM, Khota said:

What I have seen of him I would call him average at best. He could never play for India with his current skill set.

I guess I was right. Pakistani fans hyped him and Indian fans who cant think for themselves thought that to be true. he is very average.

[SUMO]

11 minutes ago, Vijy said:

he is ordinary but can atleast pick up wkts against tail.

How is jake leech...heard a lot about that guy.

Ali is picked over him only because of his batting I suppose.

[wanted_desi]

Ali batting will not win you matches in Australia, his bowling is on same level as part timer. He is just making up numbers at the moment. 

[G_B_]

not a prospect in Australia..

[maniac]

As I said,proof that picking an all-rounder for the sake of it,doesn't help.... Ali is not the worst cricketer out there.....decent with bat and ball actually but suitable for only limited overs....despite what the record says,not test class...for LOI's sure but such players are a big no no for tests

[Vijy]

2 hours ago, SUMO said:

How is jake leech...heard a lot about that guy.

Ali is picked over him only because of his batting I suppose.

leach got smashed recently. believed to be "not ready" according to some

[nevada]

All he needs is a series against India. He will get his form and confidence back in no time. 

[sandeep]

58 minutes ago, Vijy said:

leach got smashed recently. believed to be "not ready" according to some

aren't there questions about his action as well 

[Vijy]

8 hours ago, sandeep said:

aren't there questions about his action as well 

i think he had remedial action in the past.

[putrevus]

Ali is getting exposed here as Anderson and co are not able to create that pressure which they do in England.Unless there is that pressure from one end Ali will not be able to take wickets.

 

Lyon on other hand has raised his level he is genuinely able to create pressure on his own which is commendable to a finger spinner and that too in Australia.Can Ashwin raise his levels.He is experimenting too much for my taste.  We should have won in Delhi but both Ashwin and Jadeja didn't do enough.

[Vijy]

7 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Ali is getting exposed here as Anderson and co are not able to create that pressure which they do in England.Unless there is that pressure from one end Ali will not be able to take wickets.

 

Lyon on other hand has raised his level he is genuinely able to create pressure on his own which is commendable to a finger spinner and that too in Australia.Can Ashwin raise his levels.He is experimenting too much for my taste.  We should have won in Delhi but both Ashwin and Jadeja didn't do enough.

i don't think so. he is not lyon/swann.

[putrevus]

6 minutes ago, Vijy said:

i don't think so. he is not lyon/swann.

If that is the case what are we going to do with him, you can have one spinner play abroad and one play at home.It would be injustice to spinner who is playing abroad.The same dilemma England are facing, Anderson and co are fine at home but horrible away.How can you discard a bowler who is such a record pace.

[Vijy]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

If that is the case what are we going to do with him, you can have one spinner play abroad and one play at home.It would be injustice to spinner who is playing abroad.The same dilemma England are facing, Anderson and co are fine at home but horrible away.How can you discard a bowler who is such a record pace.

play a wrist spinner abroad and ash/jaddu at home. it may sound unconventional but it seems the right way to go, esp. in Oz where finger spinners get slaughtered. I'd like to see Chahal, Kuldeep and Rahul Chahar get some "A" tours and play in long-formats. People don't think of Chahal as a long-format bowler, but he has improved in domestics over past 1-2 seasons.

[SK_IH]

On 12/19/2017 at 9:35 AM, G_B_ said:

not a prospect in Australia..

nor in asia,basically a part timer made to play premier spinner's role,harsh on ali but idiotic thinking on part of english managment

[SK_IH]

Moeen Ali performance this ashes :

Batting : 179 runs at average of 19

Bowling : 5 wickets in 5 matches (  ) at an brandmanesque average of 115 

 

Is this worst ever performance in 5 match series,considering he was supposedly one of their main performers

[kira]

4 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Moeen Ali performance this ashes :

Batting : 179 runs at average of 19

Bowling : 5 wickets in 5 matches (  ) at an brandmanesque average of 115 

 

Is this worst ever performance in 5 match series,considering he was supposedly one of their main performers

Nope, our very own manider singh sucked even more against pakistan, moen is 4th worst on this list

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=allround_average;orderbyad=reverse;qualmax4=40;qualmin2=500;qualmin3=5;qualmin5=5;qualval2=balls;qualval3=innings;qualval4=batting_average;qualval5=matches;template=results;tournament_type=2;type=allround;view=series

Edited January 8, 2018 by kira

[Vijy]

5 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Moeen Ali performance this ashes :

Batting : 179 runs at average of 19

Bowling : 5 wickets in 5 matches (  ) at an brandmanesque average of 115 

 

Is this worst ever performance in 5 match series,considering he was supposedly one of their main performers

his bowling and batting avgs should be swapped. ali was utter crap, but eng will not discard him - quota selection and because he bats.

[Vijy]

3 minutes ago, kira said:

Nope, our very own manider singh sucked even more against pakistan, moen is 4th worst on this list

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=allround_average;orderbyad=reverse;qualmax4=40;qualmin2=500;qualmin3=5;qualmin5=5;qualval2=balls;qualval3=innings;qualval4=batting_average;qualval5=matches;template=results;tournament_type=2;type=allround;view=series

maninder was utter crap when teams could play spin or when pitches did not aid him.