IF it is just abt No. 6 , How is Jadhav better then Raina?

[PSB_Zone]

-Raina is more than 2 years yonger to Jadhav and almost a decade more experinced .

-Jadhav is an avg fielder ..Raina is a grt fielder and way more fitter rescently.

-I know jadhav with that action has taken few wickets but Raina can too roll his arm over ..

-I dont think jadhav is a better hitter or runner either .At that position running is important.

 

-True Raina has some short commings but so has Jadhav.That short ball thing is not a too much problem at no. 6 either..

 

-Being a Left hander he gives that edge in the end batting with pandya/Dhoni (Left/Right combination). India do hv a barrage of Right handers as of now ...

 

Plz discuss?

Edited September 4, 2017 by PSB_Zone

[tweaker]

Jadhav should get more opportunities as he has done reasonably better before this series.

Raina had got his opportunities but he has not made good use of them

[PSB_Zone]

1 minute ago, tweaker said:

Jadhav should get more opportunities as he has done reasonably better before this series.

Raina had got his opportunities but he has not made good use of them

I STILL think raina has lot more to offer..And i dont think he has done too badly in Odis..

[Sgattick10]

Raina at no. 6 is better then jadhav, dhoni and the likes. He has the power game is our 2nd best fielder 

[PSB_Zone]

Just now, Sgattick10 said:

Raina at no. 6 is better then jadhav, dhoni and the likes. He has the power game is our 2nd best fielder 

EXACTly ppl do forget what he adds with his fielding compared to Jadhav ..I am sure he will be back in the squad against Australia in place of Rahane..

[sandeep]

I love Raina - the definition of a team player.   If he's still playing at the level he was able to 4 years ago, then yes, he can do the job.  But the bigger question is, will he able to do the job in 2019 WC? I doubt that.  Hence the auditioning of Jadhav as his replacement. 

[SK_IH]

i think raina will definitely make a comeback,he is not that old and looks like working on fitness as well these days

[PSB_Zone]

Left Right partnership at the end do give edge as well..This point is very less discussed ..Anyway no way jadhav is better in any aspect.. Even if raina is slightly less then his fielding gives him the age.. Not even talking abt his experince 

[sandeep]

11 minutes ago, PSB_Zone said:

I STILL think raina has lot more to offer..And i dont think he has done too badly in Odis..

Raina lost out because we already have 2 oldies in the team in MS and Yuvi.  With Yuvi out, there's a small window of opportunity for him.   

[PSB_Zone]

4 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Raina lost out because we already have 2 oldies in the team in MS and Yuvi.  With Yuvi out, there's a small window of opportunity for him.   

FORGET Raina is just 30 ..when he was left out he was even younger..He is younger and fitter and best fielder ..with such attributes even age 40 wd not hv matered 

[PSB_Zone]

17 minutes ago, Sgattick10 said:

Raina at no. 6 is better then jadhav, dhoni and the likes. He has the power game is our 2nd best fielder 

He has an avg of 35 and strike rate of 94 in Odis..Thats still good numbers.. That avg could hv been much more but thx to Msd ,selfless raina took all the risks and Msd took all the Not outs...

 

So his critics should  nt read too much in that average

[express bowling]

But Jadhav is a higher average and much higher SR No.6 batter compared to Raina.

[PSB_Zone]

Just now, express bowling said:

But Jadhav is a higher average and much higher SR No.6 batter compared to Raina.

LOLZ Sample size is very less

[express bowling]

4 minutes ago, PSB_Zone said:

He has an avg of 35 and strike rate of 94 in Odis..Thats still good numbers.. That avg could hv been much more but thx to Msd ,selfless raina took all the risks and Msd took all the Not outs...

 

So his critics should  nt read too much in that average

 

That is happening with Jadhav too and he is averaging 47 with a SR of 122 ( wow )

[PSB_Zone]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

That is happening with Jadhav too and he is averaging 47 with a SR of 122 ( wow )

Hope he maintains it for next 10 years

[express bowling]

1 minute ago, PSB_Zone said:

LOLZ Sample size is very less

 

But does it prove that he is worse than Raina  ?

 

This sample size logic is often wrongly used, forgetting the original point being discussed.

 

If a player performs really well in 28 ODIs, why should he be dropped  ?

[express bowling]

1 minute ago, PSB_Zone said:

Hope he maintains it for next 10 years

Not needed.

 

We may have better players at No.6 after 2 or 3 years.... maybe someone like Pant or some other new-age batter.

 

The question is whether Jadhav is good enough till 2019 WC   ?

[vvvslaxman]

Jadhav is somewhat unreliable these days. He doesn't play percentage cricket like Pandey. 

[jusarrived]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

But does it prove that he is worse than Raina  ?

 

This sample size logic is often wrongly used, forgetting the original point being discussed.

 

If a player performs really well in 28 ODIs, why should he be dropped  ?

Nothing against Jadhav , but hes choked everytime under pressure . The one knock where he played brilliantly with Virat, did everything right till the point he played a stupid shot and got out and India lost eventually . Hes a good player when we bat first and does most things Raina would do for us , but its when chasing Raina is special . 

[Ankit_sharma03]

When a player looses his place he has to earn his way back- i dnt knw what raina has done 

Has his bouncer issue been soughed - No, infact the expectation of a bouncer makes him fall for a full delivery as well 

 

fall in fitness and his own coach pointing out towards his attitude hasnt helped his case.

 

The biggest reason he has fallen behind is team has invested a lot in him and the result arent upto expectation . I understand he does a tough role but not able to get over his weekness and drop in fitness is no excuse. The reason he gets a tough position coz he is not good enough to bat in top or middle . 

 

Now teams needs

 

Raina , jadhav both wnt offer more then 3-4 overs regulalry and their bowling is more suited for subcontinent . So their other areas of weekness will be highlighted more 

 

For no . 6- lets start to look at krunal, shankar

Krunal- he also has a issue with bouncer but he needs to be given time to improve 

Shankar - Again deserves time n backing

 

Raina has been backed long , no point going back to him now. Atleast yuvraj singh went back to domestic n scored runs wereas raina skipped most of the domestic season

 

Sorry such attitude shudnt be rewarded specially when a player is dropped