Khota Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Guys there is something called free market. Communism was tried and it failed. Collective farming failed. Let us not learn anything from the past and try this crap again. Brilliant. Lannister, Ironhide and beetle 1 2 Link to comment
Lannister Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 3 hours ago, mancalledsting said: Wait another minute, uncapped players like Thampi will only ever be offered 5 crore (at this very junior stage in his career) because BCCI put a limit on the number of foreign players per side. Had these limitations not existed, the value of the majority of Indian IPL players would be significantly reduced. So if the BCCI conspires to give youngsters a value above their true open market value, it also make sense for them to cut into this. Also if youngster can make loads of money bolwing 4 overs per match, why would anyone in India ever want to play international and particularly test cricket? Its not just about youngsters, most of them won't even make it into Indian team considering the amount of players we have participating and not to mention the selector's reluctance to give youngsters a chance. Kohli selected the same set of players even in dead rubbers, so how will these guys ever hope to receive caps. Link to comment
Texan Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Trichromatic said: Thing is no one is saying that test shouldn't be more rewarding. But to make it more rewarding, you don't need to suppress T20. Simply pay higher salaries to test salaries without bringing IPL in the picture. That should still encourage players to play tests. For ex - say if IPL player auctioned for 6 crores IPL player gets 2 crores Test players earns 1 crores Test player gets 4 crores extra from IPL player to make total earning 5 crores. Instead of doing this BCCI can allow IPL player to keep their 6 crores and pay 7 crores to test players separately. It will encourage players to try for tests and it will actually reward players who are good in all formats. Players will try to become better player in all formats rather than being tuk tuk one trick pony. Okay. That's about the execution. Yes, I agree the process to fund this seems flawed. Ultimately, I feel what BCCI can do is to give little to nothing in terms of match fees for T20s and use that money to fund more fees for Test matches. They could also use the higher revenue generated from media rights of IPL to fund more Test match fees. I agree in principle that the method described in OP is flawed. You should not take a player's "share" and distribute it to others. It should rather come from a common pool like ones obtained from media rights or other revenue sources for the BCCI. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, Texan said: Okay. That's about the execution. Yes, I agree the process to fund this seems flawed. Ultimately, I feel what BCCI can do is to give little to nothing in terms of match fees for T20s and use that money to fund more fees for Test matches. They could also use the higher revenue generated from media rights of IPL to fund more Test match fees. I agree in principle that the method described in OP is flawed. You should not take a player's "share" and distribute it to others. It should rather come from a common pool like ones obtained from media rights or other revenue sources for the BCCI. Yes, but probably some people think that players are already earning big, so cut down their share and divide equally instead of using other revenue sources. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 If BCCI implements this without paying test players from their revenue/profits, it will become a unique organisation which gives salary hike by asking other employees to take a salary cut. Link to comment
Gollum Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Glad. Want to see these IPL circus clowns cut to size. Use them to milk cash and take away their $$$ to fund our test guns like Pujara. The greatness of a cricketing nation is determined by test stats and ODI WCs. We have done well in the latter but in tests we have sucked historically. Time to set right our test record, IPL retards can go cry me a river. A test win against Toygers is worth more than 100 editions of these circus leagues like IPL, BBL, CPL etc. beetle 1 Link to comment
WC2011INDIA Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 total baniya move. Nothing more can be expected. Link to comment
mishra Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 12 hours ago, sandeep said: Don't take it personally. Its just a metaphor. If you don't think test cricket has value, or its not important to have a strong Indian team for tests, then we are on different sides of this issue. Honestly, I am not! I am just trying to put things from POV of not fan of either t20 or tests. If ICC has ruled that state can not meddle into financing affairs and individual boards should earn their own money then that should be it. I am fedup with idea every test fan somehow assume that test cricket is what cricket should be all about and test cricket stars have automatic right over earning of other formats. Test cricket is absolutely unsustainable. If it wasnt down to odis and t20s, one thing i can say for certain is that ground at Mumbai Central would have been sold to real estate developers to make high rises. Find out reason for test cricket is unsustainable and you have the answer. For example odi world CUP/t20 world cup, champions trophy etc makes massive money, But all revenues are feeding ICC and then xfred to various Boards. In test arena, ICC is sitting on pathetic excuse of not being able to conduct global test series, instead of taking the revenues from Ashes, Border Gavaskar trophy, Gandhi Mandela Trophy and then redistributing. What I am saying is ICC should come up with some"Grand Slam Test Series" series like "Grand Slams in Lawn Tennis". But it hasnt got balls to utter such ideas to ECB or CA. Because it can only hire likes of Snake Manohar who can leech off on BCCI /Indian Corruption. Ironhide 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 To extend above I would say ICC should mandate that Ashes, Border Gavaskar, Gandhi Mandela are three "Grand slams" with maximum points to winner and they can have option of one more Grand Slam test series for Asian teams only and tell PCB to mend its ways if they want to qualify or play in Subcontinental "Grand Slam" Link to comment
Khota Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I am tired of people who like test cricket and its snobbery. Shame on you. You like tests show it with your wallets. I hate it. I just watch T20. You can take your test cricket and stick it. Do not even dare debate me that it is the pure form. Horse riding was a pure form of transportation. Sorry I rather drive my beat up car than take your frickin horse. Change with the times or perish. Not so difficult. Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 10 hours ago, Lannister said: Its not just about youngsters, most of them won't even make it into Indian team considering the amount of players we have participating and not to mention the selector's reluctance to give youngsters a chance. Kohli selected the same set of players even in dead rubbers, so how will these guys ever hope to receive caps. Agree- that's why my other posts have centred on shifting deadwood like ms Dhoni from ODI/t20 setup to allow these youngsters a shot at the top. Link to comment
maniac Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) On 10/9/2017 at 4:34 PM, G_B_ said: fully back kohli. somebody like Surya kumar yadav earns more than Che pujara. How is that right? Cant say for Ranji players, but would like to see test specialists get a flat rate of 5 crore a year. Will encourage people like Rahane to fully concentrate on one format he excels in rather than trying to cement his place in the ODIs side (or even up on the bench). Same with Vijay or even somebody like a Saha. Might even encourage somebody like Ashwin to concentrate on being India's test premier. Rahane Vijay Ashwin Shami Saha Pujara should be test only players. Reward them accordingly. 5 crore a year is enough incentive financially to specialize in a single craft. IPL contract is a bonus. Doesn't BCCI earn a lot of revenue with Telivision rights of test matches etc. shouldn't they be the ones sharing that revenue with test players rather than penalizing someone else. Adam Sandler gets a bigger pay cheque than Daniel Day Lewis...not that SKY is Adam Sandler or Che is DDL just an analogy. Also this might result in keeping the pool of capped uncapped limited and all such is other crap. Yes a test specialist should be well compensated but IPL should have nothing to do with it...BCCI should pay them or increase their pay based on their revenues. Edited October 12, 2017 by maniac beetle 1 Link to comment
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