Why do Asian sides have such poor records vs Pakistan ?

[sandeep]

Wow, Looks like even Sri Lanka has a better win-loss record in ODIs than Pakjabis.  

 

So the question for this millenium is, will Pakistan continue to stink or can it somehow avoid having to go through qualifiers for the 2023 ODI world cup?

 

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Edited November 21, 2017 by sandeep

[Khota]

Why do some people live in the past. Is it a medical condition or they are trying to reassure themselves of their worth. Can someone answer that question. Please.

[sandeep]

43 minutes ago, Khota said:

Why do some people live in the past. Is it a medical condition or they are trying to reassure themselves of their worth. Can someone answer that question. Please.

Because reality may be too difficult to handle or accept!

[Sgattick10]

When wil Pak win a world cup match against India ?? 

[Khota]

47 minutes ago, Shaz1 said:

Because the past is what makes us who we are today.

[Khota]

10 hours ago, the don said:

 

That is an inteteresting perspective . Yes home umpires were notoriously biased . 

 

One of the reasons the victories in India are cherished so much . 

Hopefully in this day and age of professionalism we will see India and Pakistan produce some good umpires.

All I see is bunch of grown up Pakistan players acting like little beeches because they could not have their way. You have not done jack since cameras and neutral umpires. Spend some time thinking why is that and then start a thread. I am sure we will help you with the correct answers.

[Khota]

 

Can someone check and see whether Shakoor has his hand up before the appeal for the second wicket.

[Khota]

Does Imran have any shame:

 

 

Look at the umpire how he is scratching his nose after cheating. Do these records count or we can subtract these runs from Imrans total.

 

[Sachinism]

When batsmen who've been batting in fairly mundane slow wickets come up against bottle caps, they quickly get exposed

[rtmohanlal]

simple . 'bottle caps headed by Khan', bullying Pakistani umpires  like Shakoor rana  who acted  like telling  Maninder singh that  he would get wickets in Pakistan only by getting batsmen ' bowled' and orderded to keep on with the game & deliberately sided with Pak bowlers to bowl no balls , generally more animated specatators who even went on to make matches abandon if PAK  was in hopeless situation etc etc.Thanks that all of that have changed with  lot more ICC RULES in these multi camera & neutral umpiring days

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[G_B_]

thats pretty much why in a nutshell

[the don]

2 hours ago, rtmohanlal said:

simple . 'bottle caps headed by Khan', bullying Pakistani umpires  like Shakoor rana  who acted  like telling  Maninder singh that  he would get wickets in Pakistan only by getting batsmen ' bowled' and orderded to keep on with the game & deliberately sided with Pak bowlers to bowl no balls , generally more animated specatators who even went on to make matches abandon if PAK  was in hopeless situation etc etc.Thanks that all of that have changed with  lot more ICC RULES in these multi camera & neutral umpiring days

I find the umpire excuse hilarous because Pakistan has smashed India in India as recently as the last ODI series between the two sides . Secondly its funny when you say it because not only were the Indian umpires biased they are still particularly poor . Been a while since India produced a half decent umpire .

 Lol at taling diga at pakistani crowds .

Pakistani crowds are possibily the best behaved in Asia along with the Lankan crowd.

[the don]

11 hours ago, Khota said:

Well i am not talking about the past bro . I am talking about the record as it stands 

 

[sandeep]

3 hours ago, rtmohanlal said:

more animated specatators who even went on to make matches abandon if PAK  was in hopeless situation etc

Its Lol-worthy how greenbros forget their consistent history of doing this in the 80s and 90s.   Srikanth and others have gone on record saying how they feared for their lives due to spectator violence in Pakjabi-land.

[vvvslaxman]

Yes. Pakistan is the only team other than BD that lost to zimbabwe in a home series when they were supposed to have their best line up of all time. It is very hard for other teams to scale that feat.

[rtmohanlal]

1 hour ago, the don said:

I find the umpire excuse hilarous because Pakistan has smashed India in India as recently as the last ODI series between the two sides . Secondly its funny when you say it because not only were the Indian umpires biased they are still particularly poor . Been a while since India produced a half decent umpire .

 Lol at taling diga at pakistani crowds .

Pakistani crowds are possibily the best behaved in Asia along with the Lankan crowd.

not taking any thing away .Agreed that PAK  defeated IND in that last one day series just like IND defeated PAK too in some instances.

And umpires being incompetent  & poor  some times can be understood because it is natural .Even umpires being a little biased  even at crucial moments can also be understood.But those where not the cases with PAK umpires in general. Do you know about the LBW 

track record of Miandad? PAK umpires   were as biased as  it can get. how can a  home umpire tell an opposition player in the lines that you would get a wkt in Pakistan only by getting batsmen  out 'bowled only'? If you have any doubts w.r.t these incidents have a google search related to the same matter.

No captain ever in the history of cricket had the experience of getting physically attacked  by a spectator just like Srikkanth  experienced in that 89 PAK tour.No wonder teams refuse to tour Pakistan .This is just a reflection of the ever increasing  generally  disturbed  atmosphere that has always been the case in Pakistan.

And an  one day match was fully cancelled due to crowd behaviour in that 89 tour were PAK was 29 for 3 or so.

So much for your 'best behaved' claims.

 

 

And w.r.t the bottle top exploits of Khan, the lesser said the better.

 

 

Edited November 22, 2017 by rtmohanlal

[rtmohanlal]

1 hour ago, sandeep said:

Its Lol-worthy how greenbros forget their consistent history of doing this in the 80s and 90s.   Srikanth and others have gone on record saying how they feared for their lives due to spectator violence in Pakjabi-land.

Thanks to the much organised &  strict  ICC  rules now a days, those days are over  for the good.In those days, even as teenager   i  myself used to   think often as to how these people can play in this country with a calm and relaxed frame of mind.Pak spectators those days just couldn't digest their team   being in a precarious situation againt IND let alone loosing.That was the situation those times.

[Turbanator]

2 hours ago, the don said:

I find the umpire excuse hilarous because Pakistan has smashed India in India as recently as the last ODI series between the two sides . Secondly its funny when you say it because not only were the Indian umpires biased they are still particularly poor . Been a while since India produced a half decent umpire .

 Lol at taling diga at pakistani crowds .

Pakistani crowds are possibily the best behaved in Asia along with the Lankan crowd.

Sure.