Why do Asian sides have such poor records vs Pakistan ?

[the don]

Having followed cricket for a while it surprises me why Asian teams have failed to match up to Pakistan over the years . 

Arguably a lot of these sides have healthier domestic structures so why have they failed to produce similar talent ??

Is it because of the bowling lineups where a huge country like India has not produced a sub 25 averaging world class bowler .

Pakistan for example have won a smiliar number of tests from a hundred less games than India. 

Interestingly the tiny island of Srilanka and India have  simar records but well behind Pakistan while Bangladesh have been just poor so far.

Why has Pakistan been such a dominant force in Asian cricket ?? 

Discuss.

 

[Cricketics]

They were dominant when Shakoor Rana and co used to umpire. In last 10-12 years when umpiring standards have improved and technology increased and more scrutiny being done by media and all, even likes of Lanka have beaten them now.

 

 

[maniac]

They cannot chuck or tamper the ball or come up with creative ways to cheat...look at one of the highest ranked allrounders/spinners from

Pak currently- He has been banned for chucking for the 3rd time 

 

^ You cannot even imagine to  try and make this ***** up ...it is real though 

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Pakistan were, historically, a strong team until the mid 90's in tests. That is a good 4 decades since they started playing. If you look at the last two decades, India have comfortably been a better test nation. India have been a better ODI side than Pakistan though. 2 world cups and a comparable W/L ratio against top sides.

[the don]

16 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

They were dominant when Shakoor Rana and co used to umpire. In last 10-12 years when umpiring standards have improved and technology increased and more scrutiny being done by media and all, even likes of Lanka have beaten them now.

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

They were dominant when Shakoor Rana and co used to umpire. In last 10-12 years when umpiring standards have improved and technology increased and more scrutiny being done by media and all, even likes of Lanka have beaten them now.

 

 

That is an inteteresting perspective . Yes home umpires were notoriously biased . 

 

One of the reasons the victories in India are cherished so much . 

Hopefully in this day and age of professionalism we will see India and Pakistan produce some good umpires.

[the don]

11 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Pakistan were, historically, a strong team until the mid 90's in tests. That is a good 4 decades since they started playing. If you look at the last two decades, India have comfortably been a better test nation. India have been a better ODI side than Pakistan though. 2 world cups and a comparable W/L ratio against top sides.

India trail pakistan something like 80 -55 

Pakistan beat India in India in the last bilateral odi series .

Pakistan beat India by 180 runs in the last game the two teams played .

Pakistan has won a bilateral odi series in and against every single test playing nation.

Pakistan has dominated the Asian cricket scene .

[velu]

 

[Vilander]

13 minutes ago, the don said:

India trail pakistan something like 80 -55 

Pakistan beat India in India in the last bilateral odi series .

Pakistan beat India by 180 runs in the last game the two teams played .

Pakistan has won a bilateral odi series in and against every single test playing nation.

Pakistan has dominated the Asian cricket scene .

have you drawn a test match in australia lol ?

Edited November 21, 2017 by Vilander

[Vilander]

basically this guy just reverts to ODI record head to head after every discussion or CT win lol. 

[jalebi_bhai]

9 minutes ago, Vilander said:

basically this guy just reverts to ODI record head to head after every discussion or CT win lol. 

What would the H2H be with T20?

[Vilander]

But what about ...

 

 

[Vilander]

Just now, jalebi_bhai said:

What would the H2H be with T20?

who cares man its t20 and its h2h thats silly two times, silly to the power of 2.

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, the don said:

Having followed cricket for a while it surprises me why Asian teams have failed to match up to Pakistan over the years . 

Arguably a lot of these sides have healthier domestic structures so why have they failed to produce similar talent ??

Is it because of the bowling lineups where a huge country like India has not produced a sub 25 averaging world class bowler .

Pakistan for example have won a smiliar number of tests from a hundred less games than India. 

Interestingly the tiny island of Srilanka and India have  simar records but well behind Pakistan while Bangladesh have been just poor so far.

Why has Pakistan been such a dominant force in Asian cricket ?? 

Discuss.

 

Which millenium are we talking about?  In the current one, in this universe, not some alternative jihadi one, the numbers speak for themselves. 

[jalebi_bhai]

14 minutes ago, Vilander said:

who cares man its t20 and its h2h thats silly two times, silly to the power of 2.

 

[the don]

15 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Which millenium are we talking about?  In the current one, in this universe, not some alternative jihadi one, the numbers speak for themselves. 

Yes speaking of numbers .

 

Note : The numbers against srilanka should be upto 90 .

[the don]

 

India were lucky they didnt play Pakistan for a major part of the 90s tbh.

[maniac]

25 minutes ago, Vilander said:

But what about ...

 

 

She is wearing a green low cut ...is that a symbolism of how Pak invites Aus to “you know what” them every time 

Edited November 21, 2017 by maniac

[velu]

 

India               4          Pakistan       0

Bangladesh     1         Pakistan       0

 

can anyone guess the game

 

Edited November 21, 2017 by velu

[sandeep]

3 hours ago, the don said:

Yes speaking of numbers .

 

 

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=won;spanmin1=1+Jan+2000;spanval1=span;team=25;team=6;team=7;team=8;template=results;type=team

 

 

 

 

And in case you wanted to see how Asian teams have done, in away tests:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;orderby=won;spanmin1=1+Jan+2000;spanval1=span;team=25;team=6;team=7;team=8;template=results;type=team

 

Edited November 21, 2017 by sandeep

[Vilander]

3 hours ago, maniac said:

She is wearing a green low cut ...is that a symbolism of how Pak invites Aus to “you know what” them every time 

did you see the plug on 'what about'...i am now qualified to be part of fox news as well with that bit of great reporting.