Navdeep Saini bowling with genuine pace now ( Fastest of 152.9 kph )

[Ankit_sharma03]

48 minutes ago, anish2tweet said:

He has played before. He is improving.

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That to how much around 10 t20....

It takes years to evolve for cricketers 

[putrevus]

He should be playing over guys like Khaleel, Thakur. I don't know if he is better in death over guy like Chahar.

 

Chahar and Bhuvi have improved a lot in death bowling, it is very important aspect in odis and t20s. Shami and Saini will leak runs but will take wickets.

[vishalvirsingh]

4 hours ago, express bowling said:

Saini in his first spell of his debut ODI

 

4 - 0 - 12 - 0

 

After 2 half volleys in his first over which went for 8 runs ... he has bowled a good line and length with high pace, bounce and some seam movement ... and gave away just 4 runs in his next 3 overs.

 

Has bowled some good bouncers and hit Hope on the body with a short ball.

 

Fastest.  148.4 kph

Average. 141.1 kph

Can you share the graph of india pacers today that you generate as I could not locate it in bcci.tv

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

Give him (and Siraj) a proper run across formats. They give it their all, try to hit the deck, attack the stumps and do not float the ball like Bhuvi, Chahar or other pretenders like Shardul, Unadkat or Kaul.

[vishalvirsingh]

For odi"s

Shammi and Saini are genuine fast bowlers. Deepak chahar and bhuvi are medium fast with swing.

All 4 are good.

It's the conditions that should determine..if conditions are swing friendly these guys can be picked else shammi and saini should be preferred.

Bumrah is the best.

 

Shardul was fair today ..not bad.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, vishalvirsingh said:

Can you share the graph of india pacers today that you generate as I could not locate it in bcci.tv

 

 

Rounded off Speeds ....

 

Fastest Speeds

 

Saini.      149 kph

Shami.   145 kph 

Shardul. 142 kph

 

Average Speeds

 

Saini.        139 kph

Shami.     138 kph 

Shardul.   135 kph

Edited December 22, 2019 by express bowling

[putrevus]

Shardul showed why teams need players like him today, you just cannot go into a match with 4 number 11s even if they are Glen Mcgraths.

Bhuvi also found place due to his ability to hold one end with bat.

[vvvslaxman]

He is very quick off the pitch not just in the air. IF he adds some skill he will be very potent overseas.  

[express bowling]

8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

He is very quick off the pitch not just in the air. IF he adds some skill he will be very potent overseas.  

 

Saini has loads of skills ....

 

--  Can bowl a high percentage of deliveries targeting the top of off stump.

--  Can seam the ball both ways

--  Has a well directed quick bouncer

--  Can get the ball to rear up from length

--  Has developed the accurate, indipping, quick yorker recently.

--  Can reverse the old ball.

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

12 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Saini has loads of skills ....

 

--  Can bowl a high percentage of deliveries targeting the top of off stump.

--  Can seam the ball both ways

--  Has a well directed quick bouncer

--  Can get the ball to rear up from length

--  Has developed the accurate, indipping, quick yorker recently.

--  Can reverse the old ball.

 

 

If he can do what Umesh consistently does these days. That is taking the ball away from right handers he will be lethal.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

If he can do what Umesh consistently does these days. That is taking the ball away from right handers he will be lethal.

Umesh only does it with sg ball in india

Give hime kookabura outside every 3rd ball will be on leg

[Deleted_User_1]

If Umesh is in the test squad, Saini should be in. Dude is already 27. When is he going to get a chance?

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, Audiophile said:

If Umesh is in the test squad, Saini should be in. Dude is already 27. When is he going to get a chance?

Saini siraj shud have already played test in last 1-2 yrs.

Bhuvi has injury issues

Umesh is not same bowler outside india

 

By now these 2 shud have already played

[express bowling]

It was very exciting to watch Saini bowl his 2nd over to 8th over (  7 of his 10 overs ).

 

In this period we saw some really high quality fast bowling consisting of ...

-- top of off stump directed balls seaming both ways 

-- quick well directed bouncers

-- quick indipping yorkers

-- rising short balls around the off stump

-- consistent high pace of 137 kph to 148 kph.

 

And he picked up 2 wickets.

 

Will we get to see him bowl in tandem with Bumrah in the next series ?  It will be a treat to watch ... and effective too.

 

 

[putrevus]

Can Saini, Shami and Bumrah play togther in the same team.It creates so much imbalance with bat.

Edited December 26, 2019 by putrevus

[ShoonyaSifar]

36 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Can Saini, Shami and Bumrah play togther in the same team.It creates so much imbalance with bat.

Why should the runs from the tail matter when you have world number 1 and 2 in your top 3?

 

In any case, runs from number 7-8 can win you only an occasional game especially if they hardly get to bat in inconsequential matches where the captain is hell bent on using every opportunity to pad up his stats.

[express bowling]

42 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Can Saini, Shami and Bumrah play togther in the same team.It creates so much imbalance with bat.

 

No point choosing a No.8 based on his batting skills ... after choosing a No.6 who is unfit half the time and not in the best of form.

 

7 solid batsmen should be good enough 95% of the time.

 

And 4 good wicket-taking bowlers will win you more matches than 2 mediocre bowlers who can bat a bit plus just 2 good bowlers.

[Suhaan]

2 out of top 5should rather learn to roll their arms rather than asking no8 ,9 to prioritize batting

This also gives balance to the team,itsnot likeThakur is a pollock or Heath Streak or even Agarkar for that matter

[vvvslaxman]

Saini is 27 years old. He has about 2  to 3 years to make his mark.  There is nothing like wickets. That is one thing you could not complain about Agarkar. Always a wicket taker. 

[putrevus]

1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Why should the runs from the tail matter when you have world number 1 and 2 in your top 3?

 

In any case, runs from number 7-8 can win you only an occasional game especially if they hardly get to bat in inconsequential matches where the captain is hell bent on using every opportunity to pad up his stats.

Who said runs from tail don't matter.That oocassional bats they get might be in the biggest game.Every team needs to win that tough game in a tournament where bowlers have to come to play a big part with bat too.

 

What the hell is he supposed to do, stop with this nonsense that he is padding his stats . If Saini plays tests also that will be the problem.Ishant Sharma played some memorable innings with bat .

 

No one is saying Saini should not play or be given more chances.You need to be Glenn Mcgraths with ball if you want to get into the team with just one skill long term.