Does Pornography has a role in increased rape rate in India?

[Alam_dar]

1 hour ago, Singh bling said:

Kanpur: 6-year-olds held for rape bid on 4-year-old girl, sent to remand home

According to police, the girl was taken to an empty plot by the four boys and sexually assaulted on June 30 when she was playing outside her house. The cops also suspect that the idea to rape the child would have come to the minors after watching porn clips on a mobile phone. 

 

https://www.timesnownews.com/mirror-now/crime/article/kanpur-6-year-olds-held-for-rape-bid-on-4-year-old-girl-sent-to-remand-home/249193

 

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Porn has some effect especially on juveniles 

 

 

Thank you. 

 

Although I wonder why there is not then so much rape in the West due to the pornography or due to the reason that women are so naked here and also pretty. 
 

Also the next important question would be, if the pornography should be limited then? And if yes, then how? 

 

I believe that this virtual world has some type of negative effect indeed. It is said that Japanese Men are no more interested in the Japanese women of today and they prefer to live in the the virtual world with hentai figures and dolls.

 

Edited July 10, 2018 by Alam_dar

[nikred]

 
Thank you. 
 
Although I wonder why there is not then so much rape in the West due to the pornography or due to the reason that women are so naked here and also pretty. 
 
Also the next important question would be, if the pornography should be limited then? And if yes, then how? 
 
I believe that this virtual world has some type of negative effect indeed. It is said that Japanese Men are no more interested in the Japanese women of today and they prefer to live in the the virtual world with hentai figures and dolls.
 

Genuine question. Do you have data to show there is not so much rape in West as compared to India?

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[Alam_dar]

11 minutes ago, nikred said:

Genuine question. Do you have data to show there is not so much rape in West as compared to India?

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I don't have the data at hand at moment, but perhaps this observation helps: "Women are very safe in the European Countries and going to work alone at 4:00 of morning, and also moving freely alone at 12:00 at night. This much safety is difficult to imagine in our region at moment."

[coffee_rules]

19 minutes ago, nikred said:

 

 

Genuine question. Do you have data to show there is not so much rape in West as compared to India?

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[nikred]

 
 

Interesting how most of them are developed countries. Clearly a case of many unreported cases in developing countries. Which is shocking to say the least.

So there is no data to back any of the claims made by anyone. It's all about perception. More reporting of rapes in MSM is wrongly deduced as raise of rapes in India.

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[Singh bling]

1 hour ago, nikred said:

Interesting how most of them are developed countries. Clearly a case of many unreported cases in developing countries. Which is shocking to say the least.

So there is no data to back any of the claims made by anyone. It's all about perception. More reporting of rapes in MSM is wrongly deduced as raise of rapes in India.

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Underreporting is also in US , If we believe that only 10% are reported and out of them 50% are false as reported by women commission while 50% are reported in USA with 20% false even then we will get to data 9 and 44 per 100k so rapes are less in India

[Vilander]

Main reason is objectification of women in Indian movies. Kids grow up with that, and porn is easy to find. In cases where there is delinquency there are implications. 

[MechEng]

1 hour ago, Vilander said:

Main reason is objectification of women in Indian movies. Kids grow up with that, and porn is easy to find. In cases where there is delinquency there are implications. 

You won't believe there will be a new movie Sunny Leone :Untold Story coming soon in theatres! 

 

[Vilander]

18 minutes ago, MechEng said:

You won't believe there will be a new movie Sunny Leone :Untold Story coming soon in theatres! 

 

sunny i am slightly less worried of ...she is a western porn actress.

 

The problem is Indian main stream movies...hindi tamil telugu bhojpuri kannada etc.. if you see the songs the general romance sequences there is a tendency to glorify accept and promote men ogling and objectifying women or teasing them..molesting them. Women are shown to secretly enjoy this behavior while in reality this is a crime and women would abhor it. 

 

When the nirbhaya rapists were interviewed the main accused piece of **** said something to the effect of " rich men give money and enjoy women ( as if women are a drug or an object to be consumed) and men like him spend their 'daring nature' and attain the same ( as if its acceptable and justifiable to ' consume the object of pleasure' women) this is the lowest a person can get basically like excreta. He deserves to die the most gruesome death..he did 3 others will too..the one worst of all the muslim 'kid' months short of 18 year old walked smug and free and lives in south india and apparently wants to be a jihadi ( lol) now, all grown up piece of human excreta. 

 

See the pattern ? objectify women, ride your luck, be crude some of you might be lucky..rinse and repeat.

 

scum like this deserve something special, but India is a **** hole so **** thrives.

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, Vilander said:

Main reason is objectification of women in Indian movies. Kids grow up with that, and porn is easy to find. In cases where there is delinquency there are implications. 

this is everywhere. not just india.

[Alam_dar]

15 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

 

 

This Data is unable to tell us much. 

 

In western countries, even if husband touches his wife without her consent, then she charges him with rape. 

 

I don't know where India is standing, but in Islamic countries, if wife does not want to provide sex service to their husbands, then husbands have the right to beat them, and to rape them as their legal right. No one is going to care about the poor women in this case. 

 

Also in our region, women and girls are very weak socially. So much weak that they could not go to the police station alone and register a case. 

 

Police is considered itself corrupt in our region and people fear the police. People are not hopeful that they get any justice from the Police and the courts. 

 

And then our society make is very difficult for such raped girl to live a peaceful life. Due to this fear too girls don't report the rapes. 

 

While in the Western countries, people are not fearful of the Police, but they do trust in the Police system and the Judiciary. And society supports such girls fully and they don't feel themselves ashamed for being raped. 

 

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Therefore, my preferred way of judging is to see how freely women are moving alone in the society. At least in the European Countries, women seem to be very safe. 

[Vilander]

3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

this is everywhere. not just india.

May be but western nations provide more avenues for a release. India is bit more oppressed.

[Austin 3:!6]

On 7/9/2018 at 3:02 PM, Stradlater said:

I'm a sex deprived lonely man with no one to comfort but internet and it's wonders.

Why? Not sure how old are you but its not really that tough to get a real woman. Go to some pubs...chat up with some women...and surely you will have some success. Even if dont work...it will build your confidence. Or else use tinder or other dating app. Anything better than watching porn and flapping aimlessly

[Alam_dar]

On 7/9/2018 at 4:02 PM, Stradlater said:

I'm a sex deprived lonely man with no one to comfort but internet and it's wonders.

I like the Western way where young boys and girls of colleges and universities enjoy their life comfortably.

I don't think they are in so much need of pornography. 

 

In our region young boys don't have girl friends, and even if they have, then the girl friends will sex after the marriage and thus demanding for the marriage and the boys are on the run. 

Edited July 11, 2018 by Alam_dar

[beetle]

https://m.timesofindia.com/videos/news/shocking-boys-watch-porn-allegedly-rape-8-year-old-girl/videoshow/65035548.cms

Sometimes it does .

[nikred]

I like the Western way where young boys and girls of colleges and universities enjoy their life comfortably.
I don't think they are in so much need of pornography. 
 
In our region young boys don't have girl friends, and even if they have, then the girl friends will sex after the marriage and thus demanding for the marriage and the boys are on the run. 

Americans consume maximum porn. If they didn't need they wouldn't be watching it, right?

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[Alam_dar]

1 hour ago, nikred said:

Americans consume maximum porn. If they didn't need they wouldn't be watching it, right?

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May be. 

 

But I don't think that in  Europe/US boys and men are so much frustrated as in our region. Perhaps they watch pornography in order to enjoy it, while we watch due to the frustration. 

 

In US boys are mostly separate, and they have chance to watch pornos easily and openly without any fear or feeling of being guilty. But in joint family system, one hides such things and feels guilty too. I think that it could have more negative impact of pornography in our region as compared to US. 

 

Perhaps US/European the pairs watch it more as an Art, like Kama Sutra. While Indian pairs mostly don't consider pornos as an art and they don't watch pornos together. This could possibly impact the minds differently too. 

Edited July 18, 2018 by Alam_dar

[Hydra]

On 7/11/2018 at 4:18 PM, Alam_dar said:

 

This Data is unable to tell us much. 

 

In western countries, even if husband touches his wife without her consent, then she charges him with rape. 

 

I don't know where India is standing, but in Islamic countries, if wife does not want to provide sex service to their husbands, then husbands have the right to beat them, and to rape them as their legal right. No one is going to care about the poor women in this case. 

 

Also in our region, women and girls are very weak socially. So much weak that they could not go to the police station alone and register a case. 

 

Police is considered itself corrupt in our region and people fear the police. People are not hopeful that they get any justice from the Police and the courts. 

 

And then our society make is very difficult for such raped girl to live a peaceful life. Due to this fear too girls don't report the rapes. 

 

While in the Western countries, people are not fearful of the Police, but they do trust in the Police system and the Judiciary. And society supports such girls fully and they don't feel themselves ashamed for being raped. 

 

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Therefore, my preferred way of judging is to see how freely women are moving alone in the society. At least in the European Countries, women seem to be very safe. 

India is a very repressed society, and Indians tend to degrade women every chance they get. In Australia, if you grope or sexually harras a woman it is called sexual harassment, not "eve teasing".

 

**** like this happens even in here in Australia, but the police, judges, take the matter very seriously and women here are very independent and strong unlike women in the Subcontinent, where they are cowed down by society and by men and their families and friends.

Edited July 19, 2018 by Hydra

[MechEng]

14 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

May be. 

 

But I don't think that in  Europe/US boys and men are so much frustrated as in our region. Perhaps they watch pornography in order to enjoy it, while we watch due to the frustration. 

 

In US boys are mostly separate, and they have chance to watch pornos easily and openly without any fear or feeling of being guilty. But in joint family system, one hides such things and feels guilty too. I think that it could have more negative impact of pornography in our region as compared to US. 

 

Perhaps US/European the pairs watch it more as an Art, like Kama Sutra. While Indian pairs mostly don't consider pornos as an art and they don't watch pornos together. This could possibly impact the minds differently too. 

No, you are putting them on a pedestal. It's not that good there.

 

Before coming to America I thought it was like what you watch on tv shows like 2 and a half men but in a semester's duration I got the real picture.

 

Everyone is lonely there which is why a lot of people from west travel to eastern countries like Japan in order to look for wife material women.

[Alam_dar]

On 7/19/2018 at 2:09 PM, MechEng said:

No, you are putting them on a pedestal. It's not that good there.

 

Before coming to America I thought it was like what you watch on tv shows like 2 and a half men but in a semester's duration I got the real picture.

 

Everyone is lonely there which is why a lot of people from west travel to eastern countries like Japan in order to look for wife material women.

I have some random thoughts. 

 

In West, the village people are very much interconnected. But people living in the cities don't know about their neighbours and thus get lonely. 

 

In India, again village people are very much interconnected with the neighbours and joint family system is intact. But city life in small flats making people to forget their extended families and they also don't know their neighbours. 

 

Younger generation in India is sticking to computer games and thus very little road cricket as compared to old times where cricket was played on all the roads. 

 

There is something missing in the younger generation. They simply don't have such strong ties with the family and the friends and the neighbours and the wife and the children as compared to the older generations. 

 

People in West are rich. They want more from the Life. They could afford to have women from the poor countries like Vietnam who are poor and obedient. 

 

If people in India also become rich, then perhaps they will also try to bring wife from poor countries. 

 

It may be just like still rich men in India try to marry in poor Indian families, while they believe to get beautiful and obedient wives. 

 

Vietnam has still the least divorce rate in the world. Much less than even India. Link. The ladies of Vietnam don't follow religion, and they eat every thing which ultimately means they are flexible and settle in any type of society easily. 

 

China has much higher rate of divorce as compared to Vietnam. Therefore hardly anyone marries in China. 

 

Traditionally the numbers of women were always more than men in Vietnam. 

 

But lately it has changed with the availability of modern scientific methods and now girls are scare. Gradually women in Vietnam will also become precious. 

 

If you come to West, then you will see so many Vietnam girls working as Barber, Masseur, in hotel, in shops... it is simply mind blowing. They do every kind of physical work which is impossible for Indian women to imagine. 

 

Lastly, many men have some taste for girls like dolls. Vietnam girls seem to their first choice. 

 

You see, there are also other poor countries in the world. But still western people are mostly marrying in this specific country of Vietnam. 

 

Earlier there was also a trend of Europeans marrying poor girls from Russia and other ex-communist countries. But then this trend disappeared while Russians themselves became totally Westerners. 

Edited July 20, 2018 by Alam_dar