bowl_out Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, express bowling said: We need 3 specialist pacers in England and Hardik cannot be one of them. Bumrah, Khaleel and Bhuvi maybe ideal if they keep performing. Hardik at 6. Krunal / Jadeja / Sundar / Gowtham at 7. Kuldeep at 8. Hardik at 6 means 6 bowlers - which has never happened in Indian cricket history as far as I can remember. It looks like Jadhav will play at 6 The combinations for 7-11 are : Hardik, Kuldeep, Chahal, Bhuvi, Bumrah (our combination for the last few months) Jadeja, Kuldeep, Chahal, Bhuvi Bumrah (unlikely. 4 spinners including Jadhav) Jadeja, Kuldeep, Khaleel, Bhuvi, Bumrah Hardik, Jadeja, Kuldeep, Bhuvi, Bumrah Third and fourth are exciting combinations.. 3 gives bowling depth, 4 gives batting depth.. We should use one of these two based on conditions. You suggestion is probably to use option 3 + Hardik at 6.. which is looks impressive too, but is way too aggressive for our team management Edited September 21, 2018 by bowl_out UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Jadeja is the worst pretender to have played in blues. And a selfish one too. Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 12 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: didnt he bowl in CT 2017 and failed to get wkts whats the point of selecting him on basis of subcotinent , he was always good here ...by that logic he shud hve never been dropped Didn’t he win you 2013 CT ? have an open mind he might have worked during break. He did get runs in the only test he played at England. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 8 hours ago, express bowling said: We need 3 specialist pacers in England and Hardik cannot be one of them. Bumrah, Khaleel and Bhuvi maybe ideal if they keep performing. Hardik at 6. Krunal / Jadeja / Sundar / Gowtham at 7. Kuldeep at 8. This team management is very dumb. Never seen such meek team management so devoid ideas. SK_IH, UrmiSinhaRay and Switchblade 1 1 1 Link to comment
Lala Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Did Jadeja regain his spot over pandya? The Dark Horse 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 hour ago, jf1gp_1 said: Didn’t he win you 2013 CT ? have an open mind he might have worked during break. He did get runs in the only test he played at England. rules were a lil diff back then, fingers spinners were doing well in the game now wrist spinners are doing well 2013 men to sir dhoni bhi bht achi batting krta, tab ks soch ke faida he can be a good 3rd spinner, 1st two have to be wkt taking Also have the facts rights, he was always good in subcontinent ....n he performed in one last day also ...on what basis are we planning to take him to england. Even when he was dropped i said have him in options as backup but not as main spinners and thats where he shud be UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
beetle Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 hour ago, jf1gp_1 said: Didn’t he win you 2013 CT ? have an open mind he might have worked during break. He did get runs in the only test he played at England. Jaddu always comes back strong after being dropped. They should drop him often . express bowling and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: rules were a lil diff back then, fingers spinners were doing well in the game now wrist spinners are doing well 2013 men to sir dhoni bhi bht achi batting krta, tab ks soch ke faida he can be a good 3rd spinner, 1st two have to be wkt taking Also have the facts rights, he was always good in subcontinent ....n he performed in one last day also ...on what basis are we planning to take him to england. Even when he was dropped i said have him in options as backup but not as main spinners and thats where he shud be With every passing game my confidence in Chahal dips hence we need Jaddu to do well, even if as a 3rd option. So close we WC if we have to look out for spinner we just have to go back to ashwin. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Adi BB Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Ideally shreyas gopal or markande should have been picked instead of chahal But the train has left the station now. I don't trust chahal at all . The TM is perhaps trying jaddu but kohli wont drop his rcb buddy that easily . Won't mind jadeja replacing chahal as the 2nd spinner if he shows signs of improvement in the bowling department though he was bang average in odis for the last 2 years . For wc in England it's imperative we go with 3 pacers and pandya as the fourth pacer with kuly being the lone spinner and maybe some fillers from kedar in the middle overs if needed UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, Khota said: Batting is the last thing I dream of. jadeja being a better batsman then pandya is the last joke u shud crack to Edited September 22, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03 UrmiSinhaRay and Switchblade 1 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) A good outing against Bangladesh and suddenly Jadeja a discard is up for reconsideration. After that CT performance and series following them it's obvious wrist spinners are better choices than finger spinners atleast in shorter format of the game. Let's stick to it for some time. Regarding Pandya Vs Jadeja : Dont think extra spinner is required in England. Besides in batting I would choose Pandya over Jadeja 10/10 times. So its really no comparison. Pandya wins comfortably. Edited September 22, 2018 by Pollack Ankit_sharma03, Switchblade, rahulrulezz and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment
rahulrulezz Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Jadeja has played 5 world cups. Out of the 5,in 3 world cups we didn’t even make it past super six. As a matter of fact, we lost all 9 games in those supersixes. In other 2 world cups, we didn’t make past semifinals. One Player who batted at 7, bowled his 10 overs, in 5 workcups and still didn’t make it. Do we really want to take this garbage with us. The Dark Horse, Ankit_sharma03 and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Time to revisit this Link to comment
Suhaan Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I don't think Jadeja has gained over Pandya, In England the management wont compromise on Pandya's place, I still feel if somehow we add Khaleel as third seamer we will be having a dangerous attack but that wilk cost one batsman with Dhoni as a certainity that can bite us express bowling and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
bowl_out Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/22/2018 at 6:02 AM, Pollack said: A good outing against Bangladesh and suddenly Jadeja a discard is up for reconsideration. After that CT performance and series following them it's obvious wrist spinners are better choices than finger spinners atleast in shorter format of the game. Let's stick to it for some time. Regarding Pandya Vs Jadeja : Dont think extra spinner is required in England. Besides in batting I would choose Pandya over Jadeja 10/10 times. So its really no comparison. Pandya wins comfortably. Yes, Pandya surely wins over Jadeja The only consideration is Jadeja over Axar as the third spinner and possible conditions where he can be handy as the 2nd spinner too. He’s surely not a No 6 or 7 bat UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 And thats why jadeja shud never be considered for no.7 position he has been trash for yrs n yrs n it will never improve UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: And thats why jadeja shud never be considered for no.7 position he has been trash for yrs n yrs n it will never improve Yep, the phoney got exposed once again UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
R.D forever Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Jaddu in subcontinent. Pandya overseas. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Just now, R.D forever said: Jaddu in subcontinent. Pandya overseas. even in subcontinet in LOI he shudnt play at 7 UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 his lords innings was slogging that came good that day UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
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