Bhuvneshwar Kumar shouldn’t be in the playing XI for the first Test: Ashish Nehra

[Nikola]

1 hour ago, Switchblade said:

 Damien Fleming was all praise for Bhuvneshwar Kumar, whom he compared to England great James Anderson.

“I love watching Bhuvi Kumar because, probably with James Anderson, they are the best swing bowlers in the world. He actually has the skills where he can bowl outswingers and inswingers to right and left-handed batsmen. “When he (Bhuvi) first started, he lacked a yard or two in Test cricket, but he has increased his pace a little bit in the past two years,” Fleming said.

What a joke this useless trundler is compared with one of the greats. Anderson might not be All time great but he is one of the greats of this generation and bhubi kumar is getting compared with him.

[vishalvirsingh]

On 11/16/2018 at 9:27 PM, vvvslaxman said:

Spot on. You need strong bowlers to make something happen with Kookaburra. Umesh must start. Ishant is another guy. Even SHami's effectiveness is doubtful.

Shammi, Ishant, bumrah and Kuldeep Should be INDIA's attack in the first Test.

 

Why- BCOS Shammi and Bumrah will attack, Ishant will be economical most of the time in tests and he has good stamina too( for long spells) Kuldeep has improved and if he is not able to turn the ball at all only then ASHWIN should be played otherwise Kuldeep should be played as if Kuldeep turns even a little, he is also not easily readable.

 

 

kuldeep ahead of Jaddu and Ashwin...if we play Ashwin, we will go a little defensive.

[Pollack]

On 11/17/2018 at 9:11 AM, beetle said:

They should stop wrapping him in cottonwool .Give him A games and prove he is 100 % fit. If fitness issue has to happen,it should happen when there is still time to get replacement..

 

Same with shami.

You sound like you are trying to say he is unfit her doing bad. A fully fit  bhuvi will still be garbage in Australia and in most places. Bhuvi is a limited bowler. He was punching above his weight in recent times but even that was just good or very good at times but nothing exceptional or extraordinary. Overall he is a very mediocre test and ODI bowler. I think, he can be a bit useful in T20s though if he can bowl as good in death consistently as he does in IPL.

[Tibarn]

On 11/16/2018 at 12:08 PM, rkt.india said:

would have liked someone like Saini or Rajpoot with Bumrah and Ishant. Shami is same as Umesh, will spray around.

Why worry about that? Shami  has a 50.6 SR in Australia. That is dangerous wicket-taking ability. As long as Bumrah and Ishant keep it tight, Shami will be a net positive I think. 

 

Umesh is more inconsistent there and should probably be the 4th pacer, but there is an interesting split with him: Sydney vs Rest of Australia   

 

Sydney: What a performance over 2 test matches  

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
unfiltered	2011-2018	40	78	1072.5	183	3844	117	6/88	10/133	32.85	3.58	55.0	2	1	Profile
filtered	2012-2015	2	3	54.0	7	305	1	1/137	1/182	305.00	5.64	324.0	0	0

 

Rest of Australia: He is still expensive, but that 45.6 SR is deadly. 

Career averages

	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
unfiltered	2011-2018	40	78	1072.5	183	3844	117	6/88	10/133	32.85	3.58	55.0	2	1	Profile
filtered	2011-2014	5	9	182.3	22	794	24	5/93	7/176	33.08	4.35	45.6	1	0

 

 

 

 

[CSK Fan]

On 11/18/2018 at 8:40 PM, Pollack said:

You sound like you are trying to say he is unfit her doing bad. A fully fit  bhuvi will still be garbage in Australia and in most places. Bhuvi is a limited bowler. He was punching above his weight in recent times but even that was just good or very good at times but nothing exceptional or extraordinary. Overall he is a very mediocre test and ODI bowler. I think, he can be a bit useful in T20s though if he can bowl as good in death consistently as he does in IPL.

No one who looks at his test stats would clajm he is just very good and nothing extraordinary. Heck his entire career bowling average is better than any indian test bowler in history.

 

Now imagine if a batsmans test form was being judged on his odi form. The same guys would be laughing out loud

[rkt.india]

51 minutes ago, CSK Fan said:

No one who looks at his test stats would clajm he is just very good and nothing extraordinary. Heck his entire career bowling average is better than any indian test bowler in history.

 

Now imagine if a batsmans test form was being judged on his odi form. The same guys would be laughing out loud

BK's test bowling stats are as relevant as Mahela Jaywardene's batting stats in SSC.

[The Dark Horse]

1 hour ago, CSK Fan said:

No one who looks at his test stats would clajm he is just very good and nothing extraordinary. Heck his entire career bowling average is better than any indian test bowler in history.

 

Now imagine if a batsmans test form was being judged on his odi form. The same guys would be laughing out loud

If he bowls 135k+, he'll be a handful even in Australia. The same experts here said Bumrah won't be successful in England . Main concern is about Bhuvi's fitness and hence if he can bowl that speednow.

[rkt.india]

14 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said:

If he bowls 135k+, he'll be a handful even in Australia. The same experts here said Bumrah won't be successful in England . Main concern is about Bhuvi's fitness and hence if he can bowl that speednow.

which expert said that? It was Holding who was saying that.  i didnt see anyone here saying he wont be successful in England.

[Nikola]

38 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

BK's test bowling stats are as relevant as Mahela Jaywardene's batting stats in SSC.

Jayawardene still played on green tops. Bhuvi just rests on flat highways and umesh plays.

[rkt.india]

19 minutes ago, Nikola said:

Jayawardene still played on green tops. Bhuvi just rests on flat highways and umesh plays.

SSC is not a green top.  it is a highway that is why i named SSC.

[Suhaan]

43 minutes ago, Nikola said:

Jayawardene still played on green tops. Bhuvi just rests on flat highways and umesh plays.

Jayweredene and Sir Jadeja will always be remembered as one of the greatest home(sc) tracks bully

[ShoonyaSifar]

Bhuvi should be playing as the 5th bowler/all rounder and should compete for Jadeja for the all rounder's slot. Main attack IMO should be Bumrah, Ishant, Shami and Ashwin

 

Pant at 6, Ashwin at 7, Jadeja/Bhuvi at 8 followed by the 3 bowlers is a better combo than Bhuvi as one of the 4 bowlers and Rohit as the 6th batsman. Only thing this will mean is no place for Vihari in the top 6 which he so richly deserves.

[ShoonyaSifar]

59 minutes ago, Nikola said:

Jayawardene still played on green tops. Bhuvi just rests on flat highways and umesh plays.

Bhuvi has played 14 of his 21 tests in India, WI and Aus - your traditional flat highways.

Edited November 21, 2018 by ShoonyaSifar

[Nikola]

14 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Bhuvi has played 14 of his 21 tests in India, WI and Aus - your traditional flat highways.

 

All highlighted matches are helpful conditions. Before 2015 when he had swing he could get you wicket in first few overs with new ball or with 2nd new ball.

[rkt.india]

52 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Bhuvi has played 14 of his 21 tests in India, WI and Aus - your traditional flat highways.

1 in aus on a flat track..  In India played at Eden against NZ that was a green top and then on green top against SL. Wi also had helpful conditions.  WI are hardly flat highways.

[The Dark Horse]

2 hours ago, Nikola said:

 

All highlighted matches are helpful conditions. Before 2015 when he had swing he could get you wicket in first few overs with new ball or with 2nd new ball.

So play him on flat pitches..then let's see..Not his fault if he isn't played..

Edited November 21, 2018 by The Dark Horse

[Nikola]

2 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said:

So play him on flat pitches..then let's see..Not his fault if he isn't played..

He has played on flat pitches but wasn't effective. Yes he didn't go for runs but wasn't looking like will take wickets.

[Cricketics]

Big Bhuvi fan, but he hasn’t been anything great in LOi. Also another thing is that the other guys who have been given chances, haven’t been that impressive. Khaleel has been close to ok, nothing special. In that regard, you got to stick with Bhuvi as one of the seamers when playing 3 bowlers.

 

Playing two youngsters with Bumrah with one od them as Khaleel will put more pressure on Bumrah to perform and that will screw Bumrah’s bowling too. Hence Bhuvi and Bumrah ought to play until we get better bowler. Khaleel sits out to make way for another youngster when a new guy needs to be givena chance. He has had decent amount of chances now.