Clarke Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Yoda-esque said: Sorta agree, but how is it different from saying " you are intelligent and speak well" .. is that sexist? Sent from my LM-Q710.FG using Tapatalk Yea, at the core of it, physical attributes are a no-no while others are ok. 11 hours ago, Mariyam said: Of course not! But telling a colleague that she should be at the forefront of a pitch; "you are pretty and just your smile will convince the prospective client to do business with us" is very sexist. I see that as a weakness of the client who isn't looking at the pitch but focusing on the presenter. Plus its somewhat true as well. I just don't get the sexism in it when the weakness/bias of the voter or the customer is being used for political or commercial success. Yoda-esque 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I 7 hours ago, Clarke said: Yea, at the core of it, physical attributes are a no-no while others are ok. I see that as a weakness of the client who isn't looking at the pitch but focusing on the presenter. Plus its somewhat true as well. I just don't get the sexism in it when the weakness/bias of the voter or the customer is being used for political or commercial success. In our company courses on sexual harassment , such examples are used to show how not to treat collegues, commenting on dress, appearance etc PBN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: I In our company courses on sexual harassment , such examples are used to show how not to treat collegues, commenting on dress, appearance etc Which brings me to the original question I posted here about context of a female's appearance. Saying "Damn girl, You're so hot!" to someone not in the closest comfy circle is one avoidable thing. Saying that an attractive individual is needed as a front face is just a known thing that is maybe not said aloud. Plenty of girls or guys get rejected for appearance in certain professions. Is it all about sexism in those cases ? Personally I feel there are nuances to every reference of a person's appearance and sexism/bias flag isn't applicable to each scenario. Edited January 27, 2019 by Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/26/2019 at 8:26 PM, Stradlater said: And what , bore her for next few hours blabbering about weird conspiracy theories related to Hindutva and RSS? I think it should then depend upon the dishes made by Beetle ji. If they taste good and there is hope for more invitations, then Jai Feminism, Jai Moodi Sarkar Stradlater and velu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 5:28 AM, Yoda-esque said: Sorta agree, but how is it different from saying " you are intelligent and speak well" .. is that sexist? Sent from my LM-Q710.FG using Tapatalk Legalspeak on this is as follows: The part in bold font is an integral part of getting work done or getting the point across in a meeting. That isn't sexist or suggestive behavior. Suggesting someone use their smile/pretty face to help get a point across can be sexist and definitely is very unprofessional. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Mariyam said: Legalspeak on this is as follows: The part in bold font is an integral part of getting work done or getting the point across in a meeting. That isn't sexist or suggestive behavior. Suggesting someone use their smile/pretty face to help get a point across can be sexist and definitely is very unprofessional. airline industry must be sexist .. i am sure they have some basic standards for air hostess when comes to looks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikred Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 airline industry must be sexist .. i am sure they have some basic standards for air hostess when comes to looksWhat about receptionists? Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 hours ago, velu said: airline industry must be sexist .. i am sure they have some basic standards for air hostess when comes to looks One of the most sexist. But they are getting better. A few of them are giving them the choice to wear trousers instead of tight fitting dresses. Emphasis is shifting to fit and pleasant personality . They are called cabin crew and very rarely airhostesses. I wish they would do away with the rather garish makeup and give them the option of wearing no makeup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, beetle said: One of the most sexist. But they are getting better. A few of them are giving them the choice to wear trousers instead of tight fitting dresses. Emphasis is shifting to fit and pleasant personality . They are called cabin crew and very rarely airhostesses. I wish they would do away with the rather garish makeup and give them the option of wearing no makeup. i dont want to be served by some not so good looking women also they dont usually employ male cabin crews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, velu said: i dont want to be served by some not so good looking women also they dont usually employ male cabin crews Cabin crew is there for making sure you have a safe flight .....not for you to ogle. Those women will put your life before their if there is an emergency....samhje !!!! Think of them like your mommy....they will keep you safe when the plane is in trouble. Edited January 28, 2019 by beetle velu and coffee_rules 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Reference to Swara Bhaskar's act. https://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/swara-bhaskers-masturbation-scene-from-veere-di-wedding-is-path-breaking-for-a-bollywood-film-heres-why/ Clarke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riya Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Never understood comparing a real life situation to a movie situation,whats the point...? there are certain ways women are portrayed in Indian movies...and when something shows in an entirely new way its taken as different and path breaking...why that should be compared with this,...? If u couldn't digest that scene its fine...whats the relevance here... Mariyam, beetle and rkt.india 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 9 hours ago, riya said: Never understood comparing a real life situation to a movie situation,whats the point...? there are certain ways women are portrayed in Indian movies...and when something shows in an entirely new way its taken as different and path breaking...why that should be compared with this,...? If u couldn't digest that scene its fine...whats the relevance here... agree. real and reel life, both are different. Cant compare them. Also, what is so path breaking in Major Khusboo leading an All-women Assam rifles parade? beetle and riya 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, riya said: Never understood comparing a real life situation to a movie situation,whats the point...? there are certain ways women are portrayed in Indian movies...and when something shows in an entirely new way its taken as different and path breaking...why that should be compared with this,...? If u couldn't digest that scene its fine...whats the relevance here... This. Either women should not be 'feminist' and toe the line or they should be in uniform to be respected. A woman having fun in life and doing her own thing cannot be worthy of the 'respect'. There was another meme comparing the first female fighter pilot with the 'winking ' priya warrior and basically it showed that only one deserves respect. The woman in uniform can also go home, get into civies and go and wink at her boyfriend. Does she lose respect then? Edited January 29, 2019 by beetle velu, Alam_dar and riya 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Hypocrisy 101! Turning_track, beetle and rkt.india 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) Feminists not understanding movie commerce. ^° You'd think men not cringing while holding a sanitary pad is a feminist win. Right? No, they still complain. Looks like we cannot do anything right for them. . Edited August 30, 2019 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 4:20 PM, riya said: Never understood comparing a real life situation to a movie situation,whats the point...? there are certain ways women are portrayed in Indian movies...and when something shows in an entirely new way its taken as different and path breaking...why that should be compared with this,...? If u couldn't digest that scene its fine...whats the relevance here... That scene was touted as a path breaking revolutionary thing for women in a movie, to do exactly what we cringe seeing men do it on screen. Hence the hypocritical reference to path breaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Feminists not understanding movie commerce. ^° You'd think men not cringing while holding a sanitary pad is a feminist win. Right? No, they still complain. Looks like we cannot do anything right for them. . Seems like mindless rant just for the heck of it . Why can't men launch a sanitary pad? Infact men launching sanitary pad is more effective in a country like ours. Similarly the rant against Akshay is also kuch bhi... He has taken up project on social causes that most mainstream superstars wouldn't touch and given the issue the importance it deserves.Kudos to him for taking on social issues head on. coffee_rules, Alam_dar, riya and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: That scene was touted as a path breaking revolutionary thing for women in a movie, to do exactly what we cringe seeing men do it on screen. Hence the hypocritical reference to path breaking The scene was crude and the movie cringy...but the path breaking part was the direct expression of women's needs and desires which main stream cinema rarely dares to take up. It was done better in the ' lust stories' . There was a movie starring Tabbu ...can't remember the name which dealt with women sexuality but it was more about the hypocricy of society . riya 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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