How can you waste 90 balls on such a surface?

[nitinbwj]

Ban Mohali..dishing out too many pattas lately..

[vvvslaxman]

53 minutes ago, mani sha said:

collapses occur in swing seam etc . on flat pitches u need to take calculated risks to score at least 8 an over . Problem with Rohit is he thinks 5-6 an over in first 15 overs is good .

 

Each of our batters attacking - its called positive cricket is what is needed in flat pitches 

 

i agree on thr tailender part . but remember they are also the best . Bumrah Shami and Yadav are three tailenders we can afford

 

we do need pandya brothers as our two other bowlers supported by shankar and jadhav . add pant as wkt keeper - u have 5 dual ability players 

 

add kohli dhawan and rahul and u have a winning combo of wicket taking bowlers , aggressive openers , atacking middle order who can play swing ;( kohli shankar and pant ) 

 

our problem is we have tuk tuk who plays 2000 cricket - 90 ball 90 then berserk in 4 of 200 games . thats where issue is . u have forgotten how teams used to try score off first 15 overs . now with two new balls , u need to score 150 in first 20 .

 

tuk tuk aims for 120 in 120 . we fall short by 20 runs anytime we are batting first . we actually do better in chases as scoreboard tells sharma to score faster - even then he plays slow and then dhoni plays slower to take the agony to last ball 

 

 

i saw this idiotic play and when today india made 350 odd i just looked at strike rates of openers and no 4 

 

tuk tuk and rahul played slow especially tuktuk .they dont know that whats a safe target to set .

its not about the tailenders .india never has had a good tail . but india was always blessed with openers like veeru and tenli snd gambhir .even ganguly used to not waste deliveries but played briskly enuf . none were slow starters . tuk tuk doesnt give momentum . kills it rather . got nothing to do about tail . u got to worry abt tail when no 5 and no 6 come in . think peak yuvi batting with peak kaif / dhoni 

 

IN history of ODI cricket prior to this match there were only 6 times 350 totals were chased successfully. 3 times India did. This is 7th time. Chasing 350 is very hard. It should be harder against a bowling attack that has Kuldeep and Bumrah. 

 

About our tail, this tail cannot be trusted to score 10 runs with any degree of confidence. Today Bhuvi was there. The remaining 3 can't do much. Our middle order woefully unsettled middle order with so much chopping and changing.  Leaving them 40 overs to build and accelerate will be suicidal especially if KOhli departs early like today.  There are only 3 batsmen who can score big in this line up. Rest are pure lottery. Shankar is looking promising. But they are throwing him around all over.  We don't have enough matches to test the middle order combination. Should have started long back. 

[diehardpacer]

Above 400 was winnable on this pitch.I feel Aus would have got close to chasing 400.In flat pitches,no total is safe.WI got to 389 chasing England's 420.In ODI series in Aus in 2017,Ind lost 1st 4 matches despite scoring above 300.The top 3 used to bat till 40 overs scoring at 6 an over & then get out trying to accelerate.These tactics are not suitable anymore.So,if you are batting first ,sky should be the limit when setting targets.No such thing as a par score.

[Lannister]

Sharma has played a total of 92 balls in this innings, out of which 32 were dot balls. That is equivalent to 5 overs without a run in LOIs. 

 

It's about time someone exposed this phony who has been hiding behind Kohli's success all these years. He is nothing but a selfish prick who's only goal is to boost his personnel stats at the cost of team's performance. 

[SK_IH]

7 minutes ago, diehardpacer said:

Above 400 was winnable on this pitch.I feel Aus would have got close to chasing 400.In flat pitches,no total is safe.WI got to 389 chasing England's 420.In ODI series in Aus in 2017,Ind lost 1st 4 matches despite scoring above 300.The top 3 used to bat till 40 overs scoring at 6 an over & then get out trying to accelerate.These tactics are not suitable anymore.So,if you are batting first ,sky should be the limit when setting targets.No such thing as a par score.

TBH I back the Ind bowling lineup to defend these kinds of scores. I am willing to concede dew played a major role in yesterday's match apart from poor captaincy ofcourse.

[Lannister]

8 minutes ago, Lannister said:

Sharma has played a total of 92 balls in this innings, out of which 32 were dot balls. That is equivalent to 5 overs without a run in LOIs. 

 

It's about time someone exposed this phony who has been hiding behind Kohli's success all these years. He is nothing but a selfish prick who's only goal is to boost his personnel stats at the cost of team's performance. 

Not 32, it's 38 dot balls. That's 6 overs. 

[Zero_Unit]

rohit shouldn't be getting the stick today. he did a ok job. Bowlers should get the blame for this one.

[R!TTER]

He didn't do an OK job, this is how he plays 9 times out of 10 & every time he's pushed out of his comfort zone he either gets a duck ala CT final or gets out cheaply after the end of PP. He plays just one way all the time, if that isn't selfish I dunno what is 

 

And I'm willing to bet that he won't do anything special this WC either, all this talk about being world's best or second best is worthless if you don't have the silverware to show for it!

[zen]

8 hours ago, R!TTER said:

And I'm willing to bet that he won't do anything special this WC either, all this talk about being world's best or second best is worthless if you don't have the silverware to show for it!

Past patterns suggest that your could make some money on your bet  .... Tuktuk has been our worst opener in ICC/World events among the group below:

 

ew overall figures [change view]

Primary team India

Opposition team Australia  or England  or New Zealand  or Pakistan  or South Africa  or Sri Lanka  or West Indies

Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983

Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket  or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut)  or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup)  or World Cup

Batting position between 1 and 2

Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200

Ordered by batting average (descending)

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Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0
S Dhawan	2013-2017	13	13	1	919	137	76.58	933	98.49	4	4	0
SC Ganguly	1998-2007	15	15	2	869	183	66.84	1040	83.55	4	2	1
SR Tendulkar	1996-2011	31	30	0	1548	141	51.60	1778	87.06	4	9	1
V Sehwag	2002-2011	18	18	2	678	126	42.37	670	101.19	1	5	1
R Lamba	1989-1989	6	6	0	231	61	38.50	354	65.25	0	3	0
RJ Shastri	1983-1992	9	9	1	281	63*	35.12	581	48.36	0	4	0
SM Gavaskar	1983-1987	9	9	1	262	103*	32.75	320	81.87	1	1	0
RG Sharma	2013-2017	13	13	0	414	91	31.84	546	75.82	0	4	2
K Srikkanth	1983-1992	29	29	2	852	93*	31.55	1208	70.52	0	7	3

 

• Basically, 80s type stats in 10s 

Edited March 11, 2019 by zen

[mani sha]

1 hour ago, zen said:

Past patterns suggest that your could make some money on your bet  .... Tuktuk has been our worst opener in ICC/World events among the group below:

 

ew overall figures [change view]

Primary team India

Opposition team Australia  or England  or New Zealand  or Pakistan  or South Africa  or Sri Lanka  or West Indies

Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983

Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket  or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut)  or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup)  or World Cup

Batting position between 1 and 2

Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200

Ordered by batting average (descending)

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Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0
S Dhawan	2013-2017	13	13	1	919	137	76.58	933	98.49	4	4	0
SC Ganguly	1998-2007	15	15	2	869	183	66.84	1040	83.55	4	2	1
SR Tendulkar	1996-2011	31	30	0	1548	141	51.60	1778	87.06	4	9	1
V Sehwag	2002-2011	18	18	2	678	126	42.37	670	101.19	1	5	1
R Lamba	1989-1989	6	6	0	231	61	38.50	354	65.25	0	3	0
RJ Shastri	1983-1992	9	9	1	281	63*	35.12	581	48.36	0	4	0
SM Gavaskar	1983-1987	9	9	1	262	103*	32.75	320	81.87	1	1	0
RG Sharma	2013-2017	13	13	0	414	91	31.84	546	75.82	0	4	2
K Srikkanth	1983-1992	29	29	2	852	93*	31.55	1208	70.52	0	7	3

 

• Basically, 80s type stats in 10s 

proves my point . dunno why india went retro

kris sri played in era of sobers etc . he was the real hero . showed how to play the cameos at start which nullify their main bowlers or blunt 

 

sharma waits till lesser bowlers come and scores a 100 now and then . useless tuktuk

[ShoonyaSifar]

The phoney analyst is back.

 

Dot balls do not matter as long as you make up for it later. Aus played 87 dot balls yet won the match easily. Why? Because they could hit more scoring shots than us 2s and 3s not 4s and 6s

 

Guess what was the number of dot balls bowled in the Aus vs SA match where SA chased 434. 195 dot balls were bowled i.e. 32% of all deliveries bowled in that match

 

Aus played 105 dot balls, scored 434

SA played 90 dot balls yet scored 438

 

Playing dot balls initially and going onto score big is called setting the base. But then a kid who has discovered a new toy will not understand this simple thing.

[zen]

11 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

The phoney analyst is back.

 

Dot balls do not matter as long as you make up for it later. Aus played 87 dot balls yet won the match easily. Why? Because they could hit more scoring shots than us 2s and 3s not 4s and 6s

 

Guess what was the number of dot balls bowled in the Aus vs SA match where SA chased 434. 195 dot balls were bowled i.e. 32% of all deliveries bowled in that match

 

Aus played 105 dot balls, scored 434

SA played 90 dot balls yet scored 438

 

Playing dot balls initially and going onto score big is called setting the base. But then a kid who has discovered a new toy will not understand this simple thing.

This is not a thread on dot balls .... 2nd there is no point in comparing dot balls played by a team with a player

 

Assuming that you have pulled right numbers, 90 dot balls played SA w/ 9 wkts lost equates to an avg of around 8-9 dots per player. Anyone who played 50 balls or more had a SR of 150, while others were playing down the order with wkts lost 

 

Anyways, thanks for the comedy .... ShoonyaSifar value of your post 

Edited March 11, 2019 by zen

[vvvslaxman]

8 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

The phoney analyst is back.

 

Dot balls do not matter as long as you make up for it later. Aus played 87 dot balls yet won the match easily. Why? Because they could hit more scoring shots than us 2s and 3s not 4s and 6s

 

Guess what was the number of dot balls bowled in the Aus vs SA match where SA chased 434. 195 dot balls were bowled i.e. 32% of all deliveries bowled in that match

 

Aus played 105 dot balls, scored 434

SA played 90 dot balls yet scored 438

 

Playing dot balls initially and going onto score big is called setting the base. But then a kid who has discovered a new toy will not understand this simple thing.

Exactly. This is one of the most all time ridiculous thread in ICF lol. If somebody scores 6 dots and 6 sixes in the next 6 balls it means 36 runs in 12 balls.  Our resident analyst is happy as long as he has 12 singles. that way less dot balls . WHat he forgets is there are less runs as well.

[zen]

3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Exactly. This is one of the most all time ridiculous thread in ICF lol. If somebody scores 6 dots and 6 sixes in the next 6 balls it means 36 runs in 12 balls.  Our resident analyst is happy as long as he has 12 singles. that way less dot balls . WHat he forgets is there are less runs as well.

Good to see a Tuktuk fanboy agree with such zero value posts

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, zen said:

Good to see a Tuktuk fanboy agree with such zero value posts

More like fan of logic. 

[ShoonyaSifar]

5 minutes ago, zen said:

This is not a thread on dot balls .... 2nd there is no point in comparing dot balls played by a team with a player

 

Assuming that you have pulled right numbers, 90 dot balls played SA w/ 9 wkts lost equates to an avg of around 8-9 dots per player. Anyone who played 50 balls or more had a SR of 150, while others were playing down the order with wkts lost 

 

Anyways, thanks for the comedy .... ShoonyaSifar value of your post 

You love getting educated, don’t you? 

[zen]

Just now, ShoonyaSifar said:

You love getting educated, don’t you? 

Yes I do. I have tons of degrees at my disposal  .... which degree are you offering - fanboyism? 

[zen]

8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

More like fan of logic. 

Good. So once the tubelight tuktuks to on, i hope you see the point 

[ShoonyaSifar]

4 minutes ago, zen said:

Yes I do. I have tons of degrees at my disposal  .... which degree are you offering - fanboyism? 

Forgets degrees, just somehow get an iota of common sense from somewhere, you need it urgently looking at all your inane posts and threads devoid of any modicum of logic.

[zen]

9 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Forgets degrees, just somehow get an iota of common sense from somewhere, you need it urgently looking at all your inane posts and threads devoid of any modicum of logic.

Good to know that you read my posts. However, I do not read yours unless I happen to come across them on my threads. I hope you gave a better account of yourself in your other posts!