India not favourites to win

[ravishingravi]

Not a knee jerk reaction but today we witnessed some obvious glaring weaknesses that we knew were there. I can’t imagine a team winning the cup with a middle order that looks like 

 

Shankar

Jadhav 

Dhoni 

Pandya

 

2 down and we are into half batters. I think we have too many Raillu Kattas, borrowing a term from esteemed neighbour. I can see India into SF. But I can’t imagine this middle ordered withstanding any pressure in next two games. 

Edited June 22, 2019 by ravishingravi

[nevada]

Yes, this team has too many passengers. A semi final place is about the best we can expect from them.

[SK_IH]

You saw it today?

[Yoda-esque]

Its a no brainer really.

 

If Rohit or Kohli fail, this team can be bundled out for sub 200

 

 

[kubrickian]

Indian batting has largely depended on top 3 a bit too much. Couldnt find a solid No 4. Now with Dhawan out injured and Dhoni not at his best, batting obviously looks shaky. When top 3 and bowling doesnt click, we will struggle against Aus, Eng or even NZ.

[Tendulkar1996]

Go pant ,or go home.Without pant this middle order is one dimensional,boring,fragile and incapable of aggression.

With pant its still fragile.But not one dimesional(left handed),boring or incapable of aggression.

We need to create fear in opposition bowling line ups in the middle ,we are too dependant on pandya for slogging.Jadhav and shankar are very similar players,one has to go.

[SK_IH]

1 minute ago, Yoda-esque said:

Its a no brainer really.

 

If Rohit or Kohli fail, this team can be bundled out for sub 200

 

 

This Ind team can defend 200-250 against any team. Dhawan is a big blow but Dhoni has to take responsibility and he is continuously sucking. 

 

[cowboysfan]

every team has warts,even the kiwis who have a good all round team have shaky openers,without Williamson they will be in big trouble.

[cowboysfan]

6 minutes ago, Tendulkar1996 said:

Go pant ,or go home.Without pant this middle order is one dimensional,boring,fragile and incapable of aggression.

With pant its still fragile.But not one dimesional(left handed),boring or incapable of aggression.

We need to create fear in opposition bowling line ups in the middle ,we are too dependant on pandya for slogging.Jadhav and shankar are very similar players,one has to go.

if they are not going to bowl shankar at all then Pant has to play.

[Ajju]

Now chennai people should send chepuk mitti

[SK_IH]

Just now, cowboysfan said:

every team has warts,even the kiwis who have a good all round team have shaky openers,without Williamson they will be in big trouble.

Yaha bas randi rona hoga. Some people have already lost against Bangladesh. 

[ravishingravi]

2 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

This Ind team can defend 200-250 against any team. Dhawan is a big blow but Dhoni has to take responsibility and he is continuously sucking. 

 

I don’t blame Dhoni. I blame selectors and team management. You have the most promising young wicketkeeper batsman and he is initially kept out of the squad for the man playing his fourth WC. 

 

Of all the batsmen from IPL drama, they couldn’t pick another proper batsman to play. 

 

I am still trying to figure the appeal of Jadhav and Shankar. What am I not seeing ? 

[SK_IH]

1 minute ago, cowboysfan said:

if they are not going to bowl shankar at all then Pant has to play.

Or Jadhav

[kubrickian]

2 minutes ago, cowboysfan said:

every team has warts,even the kiwis who have a good all round team have shaky openers,without Williamson they will be in big trouble.

Aus and Eng have batting depth and good bowlers as well. They got most of the bases covered and are favs to win IMO. 

[SK_IH]

Just now, ravishingravi said:

I don’t blame Dhoni. I blame selectors and team management. You have the most promising young wicketkeeper batsman and he is initially kept out of the squad for the man playing his fourth WC. 

 

Of all the batsmen from IPL drama, they couldn’t pick another proper batsman to play. 

 

I am still trying to figure the appeal of Jadhav and Shankar. What am I not seeing ? 

Pant can still play ahead of Shankar or Jadhav. 

[ravishingravi]

1 minute ago, kubrickian said:

Aus and Eng have batting depth and good bowlers as well. They got most of the bases covered and are favs to win IMO. 

Eng certainly. Australia have issues with bowling. Big issues.  

[sage]

We host the biggest T20 league on the planet and don't have batsman that can average 100 Sr 

[mani sha]

Hmm not true . Think the pitch suited afghans 

dhoni was dhoni . Need Pandya at 5 Jadhav at 6 dhoni at 7 - at least he does less damage at 7 and has to hit 

[kubrickian]

4 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

I don’t blame Dhoni. I blame selectors and team management. You have the most promising young wicketkeeper batsman and he is initially kept out of the squad for the man playing his fourth WC. 

 

Of all the batsmen from IPL drama, they couldn’t pick another proper batsman to play. 

 

I am still trying to figure the appeal of Jadhav and Shankar. What am I not seeing ? 

Jadhav has done well, has one of the best strike rates in ODIs and quite consistent. Issue is with his fitness and has been in and out of the side and therefore not able to settle. Shankar is not ready for international cricket IMO. The bloke got lucky on account of a couple of performances and TM thought he can be an all rounder option.

Edited June 22, 2019 by kubrickian

[Suhaan]

Dhonis biggest problem is his inability to rotate  strike consistently,he just blocks thereby creating pressure on the batsman at other end

Atleast he should try to rotate as we know he is not going anywhere this wc

Ideally i would have played both Pant and Dk,but then a temptation of sixth bowling option is still there

But Jadhav has to go,he is just a level below VS who himself does not belongs here