Khota Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: bhajji is a better bowler then ashwin is ur opinion Ashwin is better is a fact coz in terms of numbers bhajji is not even close Fact:: Under controlled conditions Ashwin was the worst spinner. Fact: Under controlled conditions Bhajji was never the worst spinner in the world. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Khota said: Fact:: Under controlled conditions Ashwin was the worst spinner. He was really good in Aus 2015 Wc....which are not helpful conditions in World Bowled pretty well in 2013 CT which was in england Quote Fact: Under controlled conditions Bhajji was never the worst spinner in the world. ohh really in 2010 t20 WC in WI......he played 5 games did not take a single wkt. Yes my frend 5 games 0 wkt..... check ur facts - in controlled condition 2004- bang vs ind series in bangladesh(helpful pitches for spinner) against minnows avg of 94 2005 - Ind vs pak in India home pitches) avg of 74 2005 series in pak- subcontinet pitches avg of 103 2007 home series against Aus avg of 87 These are horrible stats.....i didnt even include avg of 50-60 series and these were just subcontinet pitches....dont even get me started on his overseas poor series becoz list wont end . This was only ODI cricket so dnt me even get me started on test cricket when he beaten at home despite having kumble at other end Edited September 14, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 The Dark Horse, New guy and Invasion 550 3 Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Khota said: You are getting confused between opinions and facts. Nope. You are. Fact is Ashwin has been vastly superior to Harbhajan over their careers. Honestly it’s not even close. And those are fully supported by facts. Saying Ashwin is a mediocre bowler is NOT supported by facts simply because there are not many spinners with figures and achievements in career as Ashwin. Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Khota said: Fact:: Under controlled conditions Ashwin was the worst spinner. Fact: Under controlled conditions Bhajji was never the worst spinner in the world. Wrong. Under controlled conditions Ashwin is vastly superior, once statistically analyzed mathematically . You cherry picking one tournament here or there is mathematically invalid and also probable by standard mathematical facts. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Wrong. Under controlled conditions Ashwin is vastly superior, once statistically analyzed mathematically . You cherry picking one tournament here or there is mathematically invalid and also probable by standard mathematical facts. I have given stats......let him ask for more I hve stats of Wc.....if he comes with world tournament criteria.....t20,test, ODI.....let him ask more those most of them will show how ahead is ashwin The next time he cherry picks......ask him how many wkts did bhajji pic in 2010 t20 wc- answer is 0 in 5 games....ashwin even his so called worst tournament picked 1 in 3 games (which was after 4 fielder rule n 2 new ball rule). Bhajji 2010 was with 5 fielder rule in t20. So bhajji one worst tournament was even worse Edited September 14, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
Gollum Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 On 9/15/2019 at 4:27 AM, Ankit_sharma03 said: I have given stats......let him ask for more I hve stats of Wc.....if he comes with world tournament criteria.....t20,test, ODI.....let him ask more those most of them will show how ahead is ashwin The next time he cherry picks......ask him how many wkts did bhajji pic in 2010 t20 wc- answer is 0 in 5 games....ashwin even his so called worst tournament picked 1 in 3 games (which was after 4 fielder rule n 2 new ball rule). Bhajji 2010 was with 5 fielder rule in t20. So bhajji one worst tournament was even worse He still keeps crawling back after being bombarded with all the evidence in the world (just in this page alone), must be a masochist Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
ExtremeBrainfade Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) On 9/11/2019 at 11:14 PM, Muloghonto said: Ashwin was ranked #1 in ODIs and Tests. That isn’t an opinion, that’s a fact. Bhajji was not. Also facts. If Ashwin with his massively superior record is mediocre, then Bhajji was even worse. Simple. While I agree with the overall point that Ashwin has contributed more than Harbhajan (esp the post-doosra Harbhajan), it is not useful to simply use era rankings to prove the point. It is possible that bowler A's era featured a bunch of crap bowlers elevating him to a #1 ranking, whereas bowler H possibly bowled in an era of stalwarts. In Malayalam: Mookillaa raajyaathe murimookkan raja. Having said that, I will forever be indebted to Harbhajan for his 2001 hat-trick in the VVSL match. Epoch-making match in which he had a huge hand! Edited September 18, 2019 by ExtremeBrainfade Link to comment
Khota Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I can spend sometime to refute your crap or let Ashwin self desctruct. I will let Ashwin do the work for me. Link to comment
Gollum Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Spoken like a coward. When there is no counter argument he wants to run away, will make appearance in another thread advertising his stupidity. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Both as a person and a player Ashwin has gone past Bhajji You cannot anticipate anything while Bhajji is bowling,yawn In Ashwin's case you always have a chance of watching someone getting schooled Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 9/19/2019 at 5:08 AM, Khota said: I can spend sometime to refute your crap or let Ashwin self desctruct. I will let Ashwin do the work for me. he did the work for u 7 wkt haul........boom self destruct 27 -5 wkt haul not retired yet, bhajji had 25....cant play anymore Muloghonto, vijaydude, Vilander and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 Bhajji right now.. Pratik77, Vilander and raki05 3 Link to comment
Khota Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: he did the work for u 7 wkt haul........boom self destruct 27 -5 wkt haul not retired yet, bhajji had 25....cant play anymore Once again it shows you ignorance. Ashwin has become the de facto choice right now. If he was bowling with another full time spinner you will see how inadequate he is. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 30 minutes ago, Khota said: Once again it shows you ignorance. Ashwin has become the de facto choice right now. If he was bowling with another full time spinner you will see how inadequate he is. jadeja isnt a full time spinner ?? Link to comment
Khota Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 39 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: jadeja isnt a full time spinner ?? No. Link to comment
WeStMiDz Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 58 minutes ago, Khota said: No. Fastest left arm spinner to 200 wickets is not a proper spinner, okay lol Link to comment
Khota Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, WeStMiDz said: Fastest left arm spinner to 200 wickets is not a proper spinner, okay lol I am his biggest fan and I think heis the most deserving player on the team. In terms of pure spinners there are others better than him. Once again I support this man unconditionally. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Khota said: No. are u kidding me, he is the fastest left armer to 200 wkts. Part timers dont take 200 wkts In Indian condition he is as good as anderson in england condition, he is a legend in indian condition as bowler If he is a part timer, kumble aur bhajji ko dub mrna chahiye Kumble avg at home was 25 n s.r 59 Bhajji - avg 29 n s.r 64 Jadeja avg 20 , s/r is 55........ (atg has such numbers) Jadeja results are much better then kumble n bhajji Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 40 minutes ago, Khota said: I am his biggest fan and I think heis the most deserving player on the team. In terms of pure spinners there are others better than him. Once again I support this man unconditionally. so does that make him a part timer Kumble was miles better then bhajji, did that make bhajji a part timer Link to comment
Khota Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: are u kidding me, he is the fastest left armer to 200 wkts. Part timers dont take 200 wkts In Indian condition he is as good as anderson in england condition, he is a legend in indian condition as bowler If he is a part timer, kumble aur bhajji ko dub mrna chahiye Kumble avg at home was 25 n s.r 59 Bhajji - avg 29 n s.r 64 Jadeja avg 20 , s/r is 55........ (atg has such numbers) Jadeja results are much better then kumble n bhajji See above post. I am a fan of Jadeja unlike you. Link to comment
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