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True. No point in speculating until the actual results arrive.

 

  

15 hours ago, Tibarn said:

Polls just say what way the wing is blowing. Right now Biden has a 70+ % chance of winning based on polling data, while Trump 20+%.

Hillary had a similar or greater percentage chance, but she lost. After all, there are other factors besides what the polling shows. 

 

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2 hours ago, gattaca said:

India had better trade deals with democrats aka Obama. We had a special status with US. Trump cancelled that status. So for border issues may be trump is better but trade wise democrats are better. 

A large number of black voters who refrained from voting for Hillary Clinton in the past because she was a radical feminist may vote for Biden this time due to George Floyd inspired BLM movement.

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I don't know how US presidential elections concern us apart from NRIs who have citizenship there. Either Democrat or Republican, their policy towards India has been around the same. Indians and overseas Indians without US citizenship should just shut up and mind their own business.

My advice to Indian Americans would be to vote for their own good rather than think of India. Most IA are upper middle class, live in white neighborhoods and share a mutual admiration for working over getting freebies from the govt. Also abortion, lgbt rights, atheism are disgusting to most Indians. You don't want your children to copy these nasty elements from the left do you. So your voting should be the same as whites and other minorities who detest those things.

Most blacks dont like the gay culture but are forced to vote dem because of poverty. Trump is not a genuine guy but he says the right thing to his voting bank. Many whites are also frustrated with Trump because they dont trust him but what are the options to them.

Also many leftist outlets (think nytimes, etc) hate Indians because they represent the "model immigrant" - works hard, studies well, pays taxes, doesnt complain about minor things and make it a race issue etc. They would rather want an over emotional community like blacks who are easy to trigger with movements such as BLM.

When it comes to the candidates themselves, yeah Trump is a crazy nutcase and Pence is a robot. But Biden gives me creepy pedophile vibes and Kamala is a tranny

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On 8/22/2020 at 2:59 PM, vvvslaxman said:

History means nothing? This guy was a freaking VP under OBama for 8 years one of the major influence in his presidency.  Rest of the stuffs you have spouted make no sense. I don't know about  UK and how it is run. Do not equate India with UK or USA. First of all India hasn't reached the level of either UK or USA. Not even close.  You are making no distinction between muslims and jihadists. 1/4 of the world is full of muslims. If that is what you intended then India is a Jihadist country too by your own definition as we house close to 200 million muslims.  But for Kashmir issue why do you think Jihadists will have any interest in India? Only country that is our threat is Pakistan.  Infact Afghanistan has been a good friend to us.  As long as India and Pakistan are at war it is good for AMerica's military business. 125 million dollar deal with pakistan last year. 155 million deal with India this year.   India and Pakistan will never have a full blown war. America's election is by far one of the least important thing for Indians unless you are talking about trade which will never go bad. Infact it flourished under democrats since Clinton's days.  

 

As far as this guy goes he is trying everything not to release his tax returns. Judge has denied his appeal. Now he has to submit his return. Let us see who is going to join this list. A corrupt, irresponsible government full of looters, criminals.

 

 

Threat of law,legal System, Police and punishment stops thief from committing crime. Once that threat is gone, you will see the implications. examples are allover middleeast and Africa.

 

However let me enlighten you a bit on "K" word. Modi managed to work with Obama to get "K" out of India US relationsip so much so that Trump administration went extra mile and gave a Jack sh$t to article 370 removal, but there is a group of democrats who wants to bring "K" word back.

 

Miss Kamala Harris carries  a baggage of skin colour and origin, hence will have to go extra mile to soothe those Jihadis that she is being impartial and not taking Indian side. Hence all those CAA NRC BS from her.

 

Jihadi Joe and his comrades are clueless about anything on world stage and will spend all their peried trying to do what Kejri did to poor Delhites. Bottomline is, In a world dominated by US and China playing catch up role, Jihadi Joe will simply close the gap or let China surpass US. Now it may be good or bad for US I dont care. Only reason I care is US gobbled up by Dragon does not bodes well with India who is nxt door to dragon.

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Forget 1971, It was the more recent Bush administration that denied Modi visa, it is the evangelical support base of GOP which causes headache in India courtesy missionary activities. On the economic/trade front Trump is a nuisance for us. And most of those Republicans are racist mofos who have nothing but contempt for dharmics. As bad as Dems are the other side is equally bad, best to sit this one out. Much easier to support Tories in 2019 UK election. 

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8 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Forget 1971, It was the more recent Bush administration that denied Modi visa, it is the evangelical support base of GOP which causes headache in India courtesy missionary activities. On the economic/trade front Trump is a nuisance for us. And most of those Republicans are racist mofos who have nothing but contempt for dharmics. As bad as Dems are the other side is equally bad, best to sit this one out. Much easier to support Tories in 2019 UK election. 

Obama extended that visa ban to Modi from 2008 till 2014. 

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4 minutes ago, Gollum said:

I don't like either of those parties. I don't like the extreme pro-US tilt of India either. 

US saved our asses in 1962, due to whose pressure Chyna stopped advancing. They are a better than back-stabbing Russia who swindled us on worthless ruble exchange rates for decades

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7 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

US saved our asses in 1962, due to whose pressure Chyna stopped advancing. They are a better than back-stabbing Russia who swindled us on worthless ruble exchange rates for decades

1971 Russia, never forget. 

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Just now, Gollum said:

1971 Russia, never forget. 

True , by that time Nixon and Kissinger had sucked up to Chyna and were angry that India had taken control. Without Russia sending subs, US was ready to take action on India. US deep state started in Cold War 60s will not change its India policy , will always be against India, but Trump was the first US president visiting India and not preaching us on religious freedom based on USCIRF recommendations. Well, it has better optics if not anything else. 
 

India under NDA is much more closer to US/Israel than any other government. India is dependent too much on US, 

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41 minutes ago, velu said:

 

Or zero * given to political correctness :bike:

 

All these guys at best are incompetence. Don’t go by Trumps WWE style speeches, he is not a good guy either.
 

It’s like cheering for a racist moron because he makes fun of Pakistan, you might enjoy that but you know that he doesn’t hold that much different opinion of India either.

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