R!TTER Posted September 27, 2019 Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) I think he's headed there for sure, he needs to give up on LO or test captaincy & get his mental state/batting sorted. Smith actually had a great Ashes in part because he wasn't the captain, I'm nearly 100% sure he wouldn't have scored as many & as consistently if he was the skipper. There's literally no captain I can think of who's batting didn't deteriorate rapidly towards the end of their captaincy stint! P.S. Donny need not apply Edited September 27, 2019 by R!TTER bahubali and Vk1 2
rtmohanlal Posted September 28, 2019 Posted September 28, 2019 i firmly feel that captaincy burden especially in all formats are getting too much for him, but I don't think he is a 'complete choker' , I mean he is not some one like Amla.
bahubali Posted September 28, 2019 Posted September 28, 2019 Yes he is... and I don't care abt T20 format. vijaydude 1
Stan AF Posted September 28, 2019 Posted September 28, 2019 Captaincy may have something to do with it but his purple run is over in tests/ODIs. He'll be forever remembered to be a bilateral basher. bahubali 1
R!TTER Posted September 28, 2019 Author Posted September 28, 2019 3 hours ago, rtmohanlal said: i firmly feel that captaincy burden especially in all formats are getting too much for him, but I don't think he is a 'complete choker' , I mean he is not some one like Amla. Definitely not as bad, but I remember Ganguly's stats going into a tail spin which eventually led to his ouster. Now I don't see Kohli doing as bad, but for his sake & the team's I do hope he steps down from captaincy in 2 of the 3 formats where there are potentially better alternatives!
SK_IH Posted September 28, 2019 Posted September 28, 2019 Amongst all the stats boosting and records pile-up, I am hard pressed to list 3 innings of any significance or abiding value, even in his most endearing ODI format. I do not think it's anything to do with captaincy though. He has made truck loads of runs as captain. I remember in his U19 days he proclaimed Gibbs as his fav batsman, well he has taken some of SA traits too religiously. Stan AF, Singh bling and bahubali 1 2
adi B Posted September 28, 2019 Posted September 28, 2019 Easily the biggest choker around ,choked in all important KO matches in WC ,choked while chasing moderate totals in the fourth innings which would have been monumental wins for India. Scores heavily in dead rubbers and bilaterals ! nevada, Stan AF and bahubali 3
ShoonyaSifar Posted September 28, 2019 Posted September 28, 2019 No two ways about it. 2015 WC semi, 2017 CT final and now2019 WC semis - there is enough proof. Add to them his terrible overall record in finals. Yet to have a real impact in a single ICC tournament. Too many holes in that run padding bilateral heavy record Stan AF and bahubali 2
Straight Drive Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 His selection policies make him choke in winning major trophies like ODI WC and T20 cup. vijaydude and bahubali 2
vijaydude Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 On 9/28/2019 at 10:58 PM, ShoonyaSifar said: No two ways about it. 2015 WC semi, 2017 CT final and now2019 WC semis - there is enough proof. Add to them his terrible overall record in finals. Yet to have a real impact in a single ICC tournament. Too many holes in that run padding bilateral heavy record Yeah. A quick question: Did the T20 WCs of 2014 and 2016 happen to be ICCs tournaments .. or were they private league competitions? bahubali 1
raki05 Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, vijaydude said: T20 That's the frickinn key word.
vijaydude Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 3:59 PM, raki05 said: That's the frickinn key word. "ICC Tournament" is the qualifier here.
raki05 Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, vijaydude said: "ICC Tournament" is the qualifier here. As if we win it....ya for your happiness he is t20 atg along with Afridi, Gul , Gayle and some other hacks.
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