Sushant singh rajput commits suicide, found hanging in his apartment

[Real McCoy]

If they can do this to kangana, they can also beat this kunal chimera

[Laaloo]

13 hours ago, Gollum said:

 

Another case from early 90s. Rekha suffered big time, national vamp, enemy #1 then.

Damn that’s cold.

[coffee_rules]

11 minutes ago, beetle said:

I don't find anything logical about her arguments. She never listens..

Just more and more accusations against everyone.

 

She is using nepotism in bollywood like it doesn't happen everywhere else. We are about family and about nepotism .It is there everywhere.Even she has her own sister as manager,not some talented outsider.

 

The issue is ,did people go out of the way to deny some talented ' outsider'. Both kangana and Late SSR are stars. People don't becomes stars if the whole industry is against them.

 

Did  people start avoiding working with these two?

Would they not, now that we know more facts.

Would people be inclined to put money on some with MH issues and drug issues ? Would it not effect the work.....we are talking multiple crores being involved.

 

Would people want to work with some one like kangana who has a massive ego and has trouble with other peoples work.Most people who have worked with her have negative experience. On top of that she had this disease of using social media to get even or to mouth everything. Do people like working with such people?

 

SSR  couldn't help with his issues but most of her problems with people are self created.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, in that particular clip, she is asking what has JKR or Manikarnika do to these people to stop her from making a film on her? As far as nobody is ready to work with her, there are enough people who are campy and without work , are ready, fact is she is 2 or 3 every year. But, somebody has to clean up this apeshit where movies get made for multiplex crowd of Mumbai. Nepotism is in all sectors, but high visibility is in here as people go to movies and see how talentless hacks like Ananya Pandey gets chances over those better than her. But if a producer is ready to  lose money and cred, who are we to stop. Karo manmaani

[maniac]

13 hours ago, Gollum said:

 

Another case from early 90s. Rekha suffered big time, national vamp, enemy #1 then.

Rekha wasn’t a sympathetic character. 2 husbands died early. Had a high profile affair With a couple of big stars- Amitabh and Akahay. Now the feminism and pro choice argument is all fine and applies to the high society types  but that isn’t considered exactly normal in 95% of our society which is conservative and why should we subscribe to a western perspective when it applies to hardly an insignificant minority?

 

Now there is a thin line. If a young widow wants to remarry or a divorcee under genuine circumstances sure within that conservative attitudes, some/ most will absolutely support it as long as it is logical. However having multiple affairs and marriages isn’t exactly considered normal in our society.

[coffee_rules]

8 minutes ago, maniac said:

Rekha wasn’t a sympathetic character. 2 husbands died early. Had a high profile affair With a couple of big stars- Amitabh and Akahay. Now the feminism and pro choice argument is all fine and applies to the high society types  but that isn’t considered exactly normal in 95% of our society which is conservative and why should we subscribe to a western perspective when it applies to hardly an insignificant minority?

 

Now there is a thin line. If a young widow wants to remarry or a divorcee under genuine circumstances sure within that conservative attitudes, some/ most will absolutely support it as long as it is logical. However having multiple affairs and marriages isn’t exactly considered normal in our society.

Cmon, nobody cared for such gossip. BTW, there was none with Akshay. It was all a gimmick for a movie. Which was other husband of her’s who died? Without TV or SM, there is none to claim public sentiment was against her. It is the comments of her colleagues which is shocking and sorry. Even now, nobody from the industry has blamed Rhea for SSR death. Just in SM and TV debates it is a rage. You can’t compare this to Rekha case. 

[maniac]

2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Cmon, nobody cared for such gossip. BTW, there was none with Akshay. It was all a gimmick for a movie. Which was other husband of her’s who died? Without TV or SM, there is none to claim public sentiment was against her. It is the comments of her colleagues which is shocking and sorry. Even now, nobody from the industry has blamed Rhea for SSR death. Just in SM and TV debates it is a rage. You can’t compare this to Rekha case. 

Wasn’t she married to the badminton player who committed suicide and also actor Vinod Mehra, who died early as well.

[coffee_rules]

9 minutes ago, maniac said:

Wasn’t she married to the badminton player who committed suicide and also actor Vinod Mehra, who died early as well.

No, Ayyo! Syed Modi was married to Ameeta who had an affair with Sanjay Singh and later they got married. Vinod Mehra and Rekha were divorced and many years later he died 

Edited September 16, 2020 by coffee_rules

[beetle]

54 minutes ago, maniac said:

Rekha wasn’t a sympathetic character. 2 husbands died early. Had a high profile affair With a couple of big stars- Amitabh and Akahay. Now the feminism and pro choice argument is all fine and applies to the high society types  but that isn’t considered exactly normal in 95% of our society which is conservative and why should we subscribe to a western perspective when it applies to hardly an insignificant minority?

 

Now there is a thin line. If a young widow wants to remarry or a divorcee under genuine circumstances sure within that conservative attitudes, some/ most will absolutely support it as long as it is logical. However having multiple affairs and marriages isn’t exactly considered normal in our society.

Shocking post.

Such double standards.

It is fine for widowers to remarry.

It is okay for Bachchan to have affairs with multiple actresses.

 

So if the majority poppulation is conservative,it is fine to treat people who differ miserably?

It is fine to hurt people who are not following conservative norms?

 

Sometimes t shirts make so much sense.

 

Subhash Ghai has always been known to be a slimeball in more ways than one,but shocked to read Anupam Kher's words. I thought he was better than this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 16, 2020 by beetle

[maniac]

2 minutes ago, beetle said:

Shocking post.

Such double standards.

It is fine for widowers to remarry.

It is okay for Bachchan to have affairs with multiple actresses.

 

Sometimes t shirts make so much sense.

 

Subhash Ghai has always been known to be a slimeball in more ways than one,but shocked to read Anupam Kher's words. I thought he was better than this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It’s not acceptable in our society for man to have multiple affairs as well. As I said it is a high society thing and happens in other sectors but in a discreet way because it is what it is a taboo as per our norms.

 

These are not my rules. May be you grew up in a different india than I have.

[Gollum]

1 hour ago, maniac said:

Rekha wasn’t a sympathetic character. 2 husbands died early. Had a high profile affair With a couple of big stars- Amitabh and Akahay. Now the feminism and pro choice argument is all fine and applies to the high society types  but that isn’t considered exactly normal in 95% of our society which is conservative and why should we subscribe to a western perspective when it applies to hardly an insignificant minority?

 

Now there is a thin line. If a young widow wants to remarry or a divorcee under genuine circumstances sure within that conservative attitudes, some/ most will absolutely support it as long as it is logical. However having multiple affairs and marriages isn’t exactly considered normal in our society.

Very much a sympathetic character. Her father never acknowledged she was his daughter, read about her relationship with Gemini Ganesan. Btw you should be on Team Rekha, she was raised as Telugu. I think she is a lesbian now, hasn't come out, you can blame our society for that (in before @Real McCoy  ), not a happy life IMO. 

Edited September 16, 2020 by Gollum

[beetle]

11 minutes ago, maniac said:

It’s not acceptable in our society for man to have multiple affairs as well. As I said it is a high society thing and happens in other sectors but in a discreet way because it is what it is a taboo as per our norms.

 

These are not my rules. May be you grew up in a different india than I have.

India did not freeze when you left India.

 

When was the last time some guy was vilified and treated so badly by the media for having affairs or for someone's wife passing away.

 

It is so common to cry out ' yeh dayaan kha gayi mere bete ko' when a guy dies. This is not a real accusation,just a saying which is  acceptable . How often do mothers cry ' kha gaya meri beti ko'  just because the wife passed away? 

Some things are considered fine because it happens to a woman.

( accusations for dowry etc are different )

Just because abuse is passed of in the name of conservative culture,it doesn't become normal....it is still abuse. 

 

Rhea is slut shamed and her pics in bikini make headlines.

The man she was living with had relationships too and lived with other co star too. He had done multiple shirtless shoot too. 

That is the double standards the conservative society applies.

 

 

 

Edited September 16, 2020 by beetle

[beetle]

53 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Cmon, nobody cared for such gossip. BTW, there was none with Akshay. It was all a gimmick for a movie. Which was other husband of her’s who died? Without TV or SM, there is none to claim public sentiment was against her. It is the comments of her colleagues which is shocking and sorry. Even now, nobody from the industry has blamed Rhea for SSR death. Just in SM and TV debates it is a rage. You can’t compare this to Rekha case. 

Rekha probably did not even have support of collegues. Thankfully there was no internet then.

Rhea 's abuse has been multiplied multiple folds by the internet.

 

 

[Real McCoy]

11 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Very much a sympathetic character. Her father never acknowledged she was his daughter, read about her relationship with Gemini Ganesan. Btw you should be on Team Rekha, she was raised as Telugu. I think she is a lesbian now, hasn't come out, you can blame our society for that (in before @Real McCoy  ), not a happy life IMO. 

[coffee_rules]

20 minutes ago, beetle said:

Rekha probably did not even have support of collegues. Thankfully there was no internet then.

Rhea 's abuse has been multiplied multiple folds by the internet.

 

 

Only on SM and SM (some media). But, she has enough backing fron the industry, Mumbai police, Mumbai Govt, BMC, Aghadi, Instagram millenials, INC and Drug gangsters. Hence, not many feel sorry for her.

[maniac]

41 minutes ago, Gollum said:

you should be on Team Rekha, she was raised as Telugu. 

I never denied that she was one of my favorite actresses :)

[maniac]

39 minutes ago, beetle said:

India did not freeze when you left India.

 

When was the last time some guy was vilified and treated so badly by the media for having affairs or for someone's wife passing away.

 

It is so common to cry out ' yeh dayaan kha gayi mere bete ko' when a guy dies. This is not a real accusation,just a saying which is  acceptable . How often do mothers cry ' kha gaya meri beti ko'  just because the wife passed away? 

Some things are considered fine because it happens to a woman.

( accusations for dowry etc are different )

Just because abuse is passed of in the name of conservative culture,it doesn't become normal....it is still abuse. 

 

Rhea is slut shamed and her pics in bikini make headlines.

The man she was living with had relationships too and lived with other co star too. He had done multiple shirtless shoot too. 

That is the double standards the conservative society applies.

 

 

 

Video game context: Rhea is not even the main boss, the actual angst is against likes of Mahesh Bhatt and Karan Johar (now don’t bring in the Indian society is homophobic angle here).

 

A family that takes drugs together, brother buying drugs for dad and sister, daughter calling drug dealers from moms number, is that a normal Indian middle class behavior?

 

May be its cool and normal to buy a bag of weed now in some circles but it is still illegal in india and not the way Indian middle class or poor class function, why do you always have to think from a western prism?

 

May be you should fight for legalizing weed and benefits or cannabis than for a douchebag like Rhea. 

[beetle]

40 minutes ago, maniac said:

Video game context: Rhea is not even the main boss, the actual angst is against likes of Mahesh Bhatt and Karan Johar (now don’t bring in the Indian society is homophobic angle here).

 

A family that takes drugs together, brother buying drugs for dad and sister, daughter calling drug dealers from moms number, is that a normal Indian middle class behavior?

 

May be its cool and normal to buy a bag of weed now in some circles but it is still illegal in india and not the way Indian middle class or poor class function, why do you always have to think from a western prism?

 

May be you should fight for legalizing weed and benefits or cannabis than for a douchebag like Rhea. 

Weed being illegal is the western prism . The british hangover.

I feel smoking ,gutka and pan are the ones that effect society and should be made illegal because others because of the nonconsensual smoke, disgusting gutka and paan strains that the people have to bear with.

 

Point is not about the weed...that part came later on after they found messages. The SM ,the television media and most of the people consuming these news had already declared her a murderer and a thief way before that. 

If she and her family consume / buy weed then they should be tried for that. Why call her filthy names,blame her for murder and black magic ? Why humiliate her in public to satisfy the lust of people to see her down ?

None of that can be justified.

[maniac]

39 minutes ago, beetle said:

Weed being illegal is the western prism . The british hangover.

 

The fact that British had a challenge to regulate or criminalize weed Shows that we had a great understanding of what it does and respected its properties.

 

The laborer used it as a muscle relaxant after hard labor.

 

The sadhus used it for meditation as they were detached from society it had 0 impact.

 

It was used in Ayurveda as a pain killer etc in medicine.

 

It was used once every festival day for recreation. Just one day.

 

So it is what it was, an unwritten rule that it is a mind altering substance but can be used under certain scenarios or sparingly . All Indians subconsciously followed and respected that rule so it was never an issue of telling people if it was good or bad.
 

So this argument that oh Indian culture legitimizes weed and every housewife and joe on the street used to walk around with a bong or a doobie in ancient India is also a kind of ignorant western prism.

 

So yes weed is a regulated substance and under Indian law it is illegal. 
 

I hope you hold the same values when you find a bag of weed in the room of someone you care about from a “eastern prism”

 

 

Edited September 16, 2020 by maniac

[beetle]

5 minutes ago, maniac said:

So this argument that oh Indian culture legitimizes weed and every housewife and joe on the street used to walk around with a bong or a doobie in ancient India is also a kind of ignorant western prism.

Wow...now you are talking like her too.

 

I hope if someone close to me ever uses it for recreational purposes,he / she is not treated like a murderer .

 

 

[coffee_rules]

Some take it a notch higher.. wtf man. This s not entertainment.. mazaak bana rakha hain