Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 29, 2020 Author Posted September 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mosher said: Don't think Sarfaraz has played for India A. Yea thought coz before this season he cudnt even find a place in his domestic sides to and had many discipline issues. No way selectors wud have picked him for India A
cricketfan28 Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 too much talent ..some of them might not make it big.
Adamant Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 2 hours ago, maniac said: bowlers only mature with age. Look at Saini for example. Was raw in the Mavi Nagarkotti mould but look at him evolve You are right indian fast bowlers need time to develop as most of them are hard working professionals not prodigies. I was just saying that they will get smothered bgy th bdeshis if they face them now
express bowling Posted September 29, 2020 Posted September 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Im not sure that if he even has played for India-A cant remeber @express bowling @Mosher did sarfraz go on any A tour ? I cant recall As @Mosher said, I don't think he has. Mosher 1
SecondSlip Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 On 9/29/2020 at 8:41 AM, Ankit_sharma03 said: Shaw Devdutt Gill Pant Kishen Abhishek sharma Washington sundar Rahul chahar Mavi Nagarkotti Kartik tyagi Extra Yashaswi jaiswal Ishan porel Riyan parag Abdul Samad Bishnoi Sarfraz Shaw, Gill, Pant and Sundar are way too good for the u23 level and should not be included in this team. They are all Indian National Cricketers now and have graduated to the next step. They should be replaced by Anmolpreet Singh, Ricky Bhui, Himmat Singh and Anukul Roy
Lone Wolf Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 BCCI should ideally organise Challenger Trophy of sorts immediately after IPL. I think our junior teams can compete & even beat our senior team in T20 on a given day. A three match T20 series in UAE will be ideal before Australia tour. India Junior XI: Paddikal/Shaw Agarwal Gill Samson Kishan Rana Dube Rahul Chahar Mavi Nagarkotti Natarajan Reserves: Prasidh, Rituraj, Samad, Porel, Bishnoi Sarfaraz India Senior likely would be: Rahul Rohit Virat Iyer Manish Pandya Washington/Ashwin Jadeja Shami Saini Bumrah I think it would be cracker of a 3 match series. BCCI need to bring back some kind of challenger trophy
Vickydev Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Then there is Washington Sundar ,Rahul Chahar and Lomror today. The future is indeed bright. Edited October 3, 2020 by Vickydev
coffee_rules Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 Really? You are talking about taking on say WI team? I don’t think so. One or two can excel , but an entire team taking on a fulle fledged international team is a bit far-fetched. You base it on their U19 play and IPL. Domestics , yes some have done good, but everybody with a bit of talent can do well. We need to focus on mental seasoning for international play which they lack
cowboysfan Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 1:27 AM, Lone Wolf said: BCCI should ideally organise Challenger Trophy of sorts immediately after IPL. I think our junior teams can compete & even beat our senior team in T20 on a given day. A three match T20 series in UAE will be ideal before Australia tour. India Junior XI: Paddikal/Shaw Agarwal Gill Samson Kishan Rana Dube Rahul Chahar Mavi Nagarkotti Natarajan Reserves: Prasidh, Rituraj, Samad, Porel, Bishnoi Sarfaraz India Senior likely would be: Rahul Rohit Virat Iyer Manish Pandya Washington/Ashwin Jadeja Shami Saini Bumrah I think it would be cracker of a 3 match series. BCCI need to bring back some kind of challenger trophy the senior team is weak in the middle order.Iyer,Manish and Pandya cant score well against good fast bowling.i think the juniors have the edge in the batting department.
First class Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 How is Tyagi shaping up ? Has he played any game in IPL yet ?
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 3, 2020 Author Posted October 3, 2020 6 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Really? You are talking about taking on say WI team? I don’t think so. One or two can excel , but an entire team taking on a fulle fledged international team is a bit far-fetched. You base it on their U19 play and IPL. Domestics , yes some have done good, but everybody with a bit of talent can do well. We need to focus on mental seasoning for international play which they lack again the words are run for their money and yes they can to even WI in odi not t20, in t20 WI is a top side Many international sides dont have same quality anymore and ur fogetting this lineup has gill, shaw, pant, sundar who have been in national team. These player go on India A tour and beat teams in their own back yard and those A sides have senior players pakistan plays outdated cricket bang doesnt have venom in bowling SL is trash SA batting isnt great anymore, bowling also is a one man show who under pressure hold himself WI can explode anytime and the reason they aint that good in ODI is middle over problem of strike rotation. They all cud be given a run for their money , they may fall short due to experience but ODI cricket is about that particular day when anyone can runaway with the game and this side is filled with match winners
Lone Wolf Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, cowboysfan said: the senior team is weak in the middle order.Iyer,Manish and Pandya cant score well against good fast bowling.i think the juniors have the edge in the batting department. They seem to be our first choice though.. That's why we need some kind of matches to determine who are the best for what position.
coffee_rules Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: again the words are run for their money and yes they can to even WI in odi not t20, in t20 WI is a top side Many international sides dont have same quality anymore and ur fogetting this lineup has gill, shaw, pant, sundar who have been in national team. These player go on India A tour and beat teams in their own back yard and those A sides have senior players pakistan plays outdated cricket bang doesnt have venom in bowling SL is trash SA batting isnt great anymore, bowling also is a one man show who under pressure hold himself WI can explode anytime and the reason they aint that good in ODI is middle over problem of strike rotation. They all cud be given a run for their money , they may fall short due to experience but ODI cricket is about that particular day when anyone can runaway with the game and this side is filled with match winners Quality , run for the money are all fancy words. But the ideal q is can they replace national team players and win is the elusive ICC trophy that we have not won since 2013. Rohit and Rat for all their hype has failed in the crucial stages in SFs and Fs after that event. IPL is going on and we all get excited wihen a Padikkal takes on Rabada. But we are far from being a No. 1 team. Even a NZ team can beat us in their conditions or in UK
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Posted October 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Quality , run for the money are all fancy words. But the ideal q is can they replace national team players and win is the elusive ICC trophy that we have not won since 2013. Rohit and Rat for all their hype has failed in the crucial stages in SFs and Fs after that event. IPL is going on and we all get excited wihen a Padikkal takes on Rabada. But we are far from being a No. 1 team. Even a NZ team can beat us in their conditions or in UK i have a different theory - captains win tournament .... Rohit n rat have performed under dhoni in 2007 t20 wc n 2013 ct final, kohli in all t20 Wcs its also just not about big trophy, if they become good cricketers and keeps the winning ratio thats also a lot. Remember SA n Nz didnt win trophy but were considered good teams. If your captain knows how to win tournament and other factors fall in place they ll win cups . To become no.1 team we need a cultural mindset shift, we still play conservative cricket....champions play attacking cricket
coffee_rules Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: i have a different theory - captains win tournament .... Rohit n rat have performed under dhoni in 2007 t20 wc n 2013 ct final, kohli in all t20 Wcs its also just not about big trophy, if they become good cricketers and keeps the winning ratio thats also a lot. Remember SA n Nz didnt win trophy but were considered good teams. If your captain knows how to win tournament and other factors fall in place they ll win cups . To become no.1 team we need a cultural mindset shift, we still play conservative cricket....champions play attacking cricket I am from old school, believe that the captain is as good as the team and bowlers win matches. For ICC events we need tough bowlers like BUmrah, Saini and let’s pick bowlers who can win matches. 2017 T20 WC could’ve been won if we had another quality pace bowler apart from Bumrah
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Posted October 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: I am from old school, believe that the captain is as good as the team and bowlers win matches. For ICC events we need tough bowlers like BUmrah, Saini and let’s pick bowlers who can win matches. 2017 T20 WC could’ve been won if we had another quality pace bowler apart from Bumrah Captain is as good as a team but a captain shud also be able to utilize his resources to fullest. Dhoni won CT 2013 with a much worse team then we had in 2017 which lost to pakistan a very below avg team SA always had a good bowling attack, pakistan for longest time was better then us yet we defeated them in Wc games...reason nerves The reason we loose pressure games under kohli or even ganguly coz their nerves take on them during these situation and they panic. When captain panic team cant win which is why i made that body language thread. Check kohli body lang in 2017 CT on 2019 Wc, its full of nervous energy and that will always had a negative impact on team. Same was with ganguly to. Thats why we will never win under kohli but same team will have higher chances of winning under rohit. Same team same resources but it also depends on how captain uses it coffee_rules 1
Suhaan Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 7 hours ago, First class said: How is Tyagi shaping up ? Has he played any game in IPL yet ? No hasn't played a game
nevada Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 On 9/29/2020 at 6:39 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said: I want to see bishnoi for few season, once his novelty wears off Markhande looked great but now no were Remeber chawla who was troubling sachin then found out I like bishnoi , he reminds me of tahir but few season for him Rahul chahar acc to me is the best young spinner in terms of talent in country , no one comes close. He also can hold bat and is a really good fielder Like Chawla, Bishnoi also bowls mostly googlies. I wonder why a leg spinner wouldn't use the classic legbreak.
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