Cricketics Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I hever heard many of her songs, and I feel her voice isn't the greatest how its made out to be. I know everyone has their own taste, but i feel people get offended in India if someone mentions another female artist is better than her. Same used to be the case for someone mentioning artists better than Kishore Kumar/Mohd. Rafi But do you think Lata Mangeshkar for you is really the best ever female vocalists from India? I sometimes prefer listening to other female singers. It also could be that Lata Mangeshkar's best work was in her younger days and the ones he sang in 90s and early 2000 and later is not her best work due to her age. I haven't enjoyed her singing as much a from those years at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikred Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I find her voice too high pitched to my liking. Sent from my SM-M315F using Tapatalk Ranvir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, nikred said: I find her voice too high pitched to my liking. Sent from my SM-M315F using Tapatalk Yes, same thing I felt. I am glad there more people who think the same. I wish Alka Yagnik had sang that song "Tere liye" of Veer-Zaara, it would have sounded even better. Or even some other Indian female artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 The best ever followed by daylight, sliced bread and mysore pak. dial_100, randomGuy and zen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted October 13, 2020 Author Share Posted October 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: The best ever followed by daylight, sliced bread and mysore pak. So you like her high pitch in the songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, Cricketics said: So you like her high pitch in the songs? She is capable of such high pitch and sings with her natural voice. Her natural voice itself is high pitched. She can reach scales that even male singers like MRafi couldn't match. You should not listen to her songs after 1975 or so. The problem is all her songs beyond her sell-by date is what you hear and gets passed around. She was the queen of the 50s and 60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: The best ever followed by daylight, sliced bread and mysore pak. Better than MS Subbulakshmi? Janaki, Susheela or even her sister Asha Bhosle? dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I know very litlle about music but my fav is Shreya Ghoshal, dunno how critics rate her. dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranvir Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 The modern female playback singers are much better in my opinion. The likes of Mangeshkar, Yagnik are simply too high pitched, borderline chipmunk sounding in Mangeshkar's case. I much prefer the likes of Sunidhi Chauhan and Shreya Ghoshal. Cricketics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 We don’t need modern singers, even a donkey with auto tuners can sound as good. dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I6MTW Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Lata Mangeshkar is a very good singer. But the last decades of her career, voice became too high pitched and shrill. She, Asha Bhosle, Alka Yagnik, Kavita Krishnamoorty, Sunidhi , Shreya etc are some of the best female playback singers. I don't want to dwell into classical singers such as Carnatic and Hindustani as some of them had better range and vocals, but it's difficult to compare playback with classical I feel. dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 If there were no Lata Mangeshkar, Asha Bhosle, Kishore Kumar, Md Rafi and Mukesh, there would have been no Bollywood: coffee_rules and dial_100 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, I6MTW said: Lata Mangeshkar is a very good singer. But the last decades of her career, voice became too high pitched and shrill. She, Asha Bhosle, Alka Yagnik, Kavita Krishnamoorty, Sunidhi , Shreya etc are some of the best female playback singers. I don't want to dwell into classical singers such as Carnatic and Hindustani as some of them had better range and vocals, but it's difficult to compare playback with classical I feel. Exactly, both sisters sang more than their golden period, hard to let go legacy, ego etc. In the 80s, even with inferior voice quality, she took away chances from singers like Runa Laila, Hemlata, Anuradha Paudwal etc. who were sounding fresher and younger. If you are comparing the voice quality of Lata/Asha in the 80s, 90s to modern autotuned singers, they would sing in their natural voice than somebody who would sound like a synthesizer (Neha Kakkar or Sunidhi Chauhan), Even singers like Shreya would sound better with technology in mics, rehearsed songs, while in one of the shows I attended she sounded atrocious. Maybe had a bad day. I wouldn't compare classical singers with playback singers, while classical singers wouldn't get takes or retakes, they wouldn't have had to be emotional with all kinds of moods. Sad/Happy/Melancholy/Sarcasm etc. So, it's best not to compare different art forms. I wouldn't say Lata is much better , even classical singing wise than say Parveen Sultana or others. They are good in their own styles. dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Another Indian legend who overstayed their retirement, probably the biggest benchmark for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Gollum said: I know very litlle about music but my fav is Shreya Ghoshal, dunno how critics rate her. big fan. For me among Indian women movie singers it is in that exact order. Chitra (South Indian legend) Shreya Ghoshal Asha Bhonsle Alka Yagnik Kavita Krishna Murthy I don’t want to rate Lataji, she is a legend and though not my personal favorite will respect her by not ranking her. dial_100 and Gollum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Gollum said: Better than MS Subbulakshmi? Janaki, Susheela or even her sister Asha Bhosle? I think we should leave out MSS in the playback singing comparisons. SJanaki and PSusheels were queens on South India, while Lata was predominantly in Hindi, Marathi and some Bengali maybe. Yes, comparing her voice quality only, Lata is above these two, but diction is a cultural thing, the south Indian ladies are too good in south indian languages. I like all three equally, but respect Lata more for maintaining her voice from late 40s till late 70s - 30 years is huge , Deserving Bharat Ratna. dial_100, Gollum and zen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, maniac said: big fan. For me among Indian women movie singers it is in that exact order. Chitra (South Indian legend) Shreya Ghoshal Asha Bhonsle Alka Yagnik Kavita Krishna Murthy I don’t want to rate Lataji, she is a legend and though not my personal favorite will respect her by not ranking her. Chitra is too Nasal and she can't sing any other song other than Mallu/Tamil diction. My list would be: Asha Bhonsle/ SJanaki P Susheela Shreya Chitra Sadhna Sargam Anuradha Paudwal Kavita Krishnamurthy ... ... Alka Yagnik And others. I rate Alka lower because of versatality. She sings all her songs the same way, no difference in range/emotion etc. Quite flat for my taste. She sounds like Ek Do Teen .. in all her songs Edited October 13, 2020 by coffee_rules dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) Another soul piercing song is mere naina sawan bhado .... it could be based on Raag Shivaranjani Though I like Kishore Kumar's version better (it is said that Kishore, not as versed in ragas as Rafi and Lata, asked RD to make Lata sing first so he could listen to the song and practise. Kishore practised for a week and sang a gem too) .... the genius of RD .... I like the film Mehbooba mainly for its songs Edited October 13, 2020 by zen dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Another solo song sung well both by Lata & Kishore dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 hours ago, zen said: Another soul piercing song is mere naina sawan bhado .... it could be based on Raag Shivaranjani Though I like Kishore Kumar's version better (it is said that Kishore, not as versed in ragas as Rafi and Lata, asked RD to make Lata sing first so he could listen to the song and practise. Kishore practised for a week and sang a gem too) .... the genius of RD .... I like the film Mehbooba mainly for its songs Yup Muahh. Shivranjani is my fav too. There were like dozens of songs based on it. On the topic, I would add my 2 cents. Most of their songs both Asha and Lata sung without any auto tuners, in 1 take. Sometimes they even rehearsed over the phone and came to studio and recorded it in first take. I consider myself too small in terms of knowledge and ability to judge any of these great singers. I hate to rank them because they are all different. Based on Bhimpalasi by Lata Based on some form of Todi by Shreya Based on Marwa by Asha coffee_rules, randomGuy, zen and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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