India vs Australia: Shreyas Iyer may be reserve batsman for Tests

[express bowling]

34 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

I thought Iyer has out-performed Gill in domestics and that too over more seasons than Gill has.

 

 

In FC cricket, Gill.has an amazing record.

 

Gill in FC

 

Average.     73.6

SR.              73.3

Matches.       21

100s.               7 

Highest.      268

 

 

Iyer in FC

 

Average.     52.2

SR.              81.5

Matches.       54

100s.              12

Highest.       202

[ShoonyaSifar]

14 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

We should stop following Ranji/Dileep trophy. They might as well play only IPeeYell and pick players for tests as well. Chutiyagiri, KKNair has test 300, what happens to all Ranji dadas? 

 In what way is Iyer inferior to the Ranji dadas? FC avg of 52, SR of 80+, 12 FC 100s, performances for India A - he's done everything required to be picked for the Test squad. Because he's made a mark in the LOIs should not diminish his credentials for the longer formats. I will say the same for even Manish Pandey

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

 

 

 

 

 

beyond Fc number this will be the issue Iyer will have specially in Aus

Edited November 25, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03

[coffee_rules]

3 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

 In what way is Iyer inferior to the Ranji dadas? FC avg of 52, SR of 80+, 12 FC 100s, performances for India A - he's done everything required to be picked for the Test squad. Because he's made a mark in the LOIs should not diminish his credentials for the longer formats. I will say the same for even Manish Pandey

 

Yes, but He didn't play FC for Mumbai in 2019-20. The last FC match he played was in Irani Trophy in Feb 2019.  This is clearly a case of convenience, otherwise, they will have to get another player out, quarantine and all that headache. Anyway, this is all moot, as he might not play at all. 

[sandeep]

16 hours ago, SK_IH said:

That was a laughable post. You sounded like Ravi Shastri there. It is a very good Indian team with lots of loopholes irrespective of personnel.

You can say what you want.  Fact remains that our team won in Australia.  And they lost 2-1 in SA after being in a very, very good position on day 1 of the 1st test.  SA escaped to 300 odd in the 1st innings after being 12/3 thanks to Bhuvi.  Dhawan dropped a crucial catch in the slips at 140 odd for 5.  And then ABDV saved the Saffer backsides.  That was a very winnable test for India if a couple of things play out differently.  The England tour scoreline may read 1-4, but we know that it was a lot closer than that.  And again, think back to the crucial first test.  Kuptaan Wrogn brand ambassador farmhouse boy decided to bench Pujara and play Dhawan.  And we allowed Sam "I throw my bat and slog" Curran to score 70 crucial runs - that test we lost by 30 odd runs.  A few better decisions and it would be a completely different test series.

 

I am not over-rating or hyping this team.  They are flawed.  They have chinks and weaknesses.  But relative to the other test playing nations, we are damn good.  And the consistent failure by Kohli to make better decisions, especially on selection, managing Bhuvi's availability for England - etc, are major factors in the results that the team has put up.  

 

We have a world class pace attack, and the world's best spin attack in tests.  And one of those spinners averages 40+ with the bat over 4 years.  Its a really good strong team, especially on the bowling end.  Results do not accurately reflect their potential.  You can call me laughable, "Shastri" like, whatever.  I am just calling it as I see it.

[SK_IH]

6 hours ago, sandeep said:

You can say what you want.  Fact remains that our team won in Australia.  And they lost 2-1 in SA after being in a very, very good position on day 1 of the 1st test.  SA escaped to 300 odd in the 1st innings after being 12/3 thanks to Bhuvi.  Dhawan dropped a crucial catch in the slips at 140 odd for 5.  And then ABDV saved the Saffer backsides.  That was a very winnable test for India if a couple of things play out differently.  The England tour scoreline may read 1-4, but we know that it was a lot closer than that.  And again, think back to the crucial first test.  Kuptaan Wrogn brand ambassador farmhouse boy decided to bench Pujara and play Dhawan.  And we allowed Sam "I throw my bat and slog" Curran to score 70 crucial runs - that test we lost by 30 odd runs.  A few better decisions and it would be a completely different test series.

 

I am not over-rating or hyping this team.  They are flawed.  They have chinks and weaknesses.  But relative to the other test playing nations, we are damn good.  And the consistent failure by Kohli to make better decisions, especially on selection, managing Bhuvi's availability for England - etc, are major factors in the results that the team has put up.  

 

We have a world class pace attack, and the world's best spin attack in tests.  And one of those spinners averages 40+ with the bat over 4 years.  Its a really good strong team, especially on the bowling end.  Results do not accurately reflect their potential.  You can call me laughable, "Shastri" like, whatever.  I am just calling it as I see it.

You have just said it yourself, this team is best among the worst lot at the moment (on paper we have lost that accomplishment as well).

You have provided so many riders for those loses, what if what if, great teams overcome those moments/missing personnel & usually win those very moments to showcase their supremacy, which obviously this team ain't capable of.

I also used to rate this side pretty highly as an all rounded side specially among the current lot of teams but the abject surrender in NZ was again a reminder of mediocrity of Indian cricket. Expecting consistent domination from them is still a pipe dream.

Edited November 26, 2020 by SK_IH

[Ankit_sharma03]

On 11/25/2020 at 7:52 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

beyond Fc number this will be the issue Iyer will have specially in Aus

 

 

 

 

• This wont work in test cricket 
• And the reason i have been doubtful about him always, even in WI when he scored holder hard length was putting him in trouble . Hazelwood n holder arent even archer type quick

[express bowling]

People who have chosen Iyer as a reserve batsman in tests do not watch FC cricket.

 

Iyer had problems against 127 k short balls by Unadkat in FC matches.

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

People who have chosen Iyer as a reserve batsman in tests do not watch FC cricket.

 

Iyer had problems against 127 k short balls by Unadkat in FC matches.

 

unadkat causing problem is to much, i remember holder doing same even when he was scoring quickly but chalo atleast holder had height

[Suhaan]

2 hours ago, express bowling said:

People who have chosen Iyer as a reserve batsman in tests do not watch FC cricket.

 

Iyer had problems against 127 k short balls by Unadkat in FC matches.

I have been saying all this while but majority here look for stats only, he needs to improve his game immensely and immediately

I have seen him taking off his eyes to military medium pace bowling in domestics

Point is we don't have to zero in on him only ,Gill,Ruturaj,Kishan all of them should be in the reckoning

[express bowling]

48 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

unadkat causing problem is to much, i remember holder doing same even when he was scoring quickly but chalo atleast holder had height

 

Unadkat has height too.  Must be 6'2" or 6'3".

[Ankit_sharma03]

On 11/27/2020 at 6:57 PM, express bowling said:

People who have chosen Iyer as a reserve batsman in tests do not watch FC cricket.

 

Iyer had problems against 127 k short balls by Unadkat in FC matches.

 

 

 

Another one , against woakes....again not someone rapid

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

 

 

 

[Suhaan]

Iyer has to be icon player for Kandy Tuskers