Would india have won the first test as well if Gill and Pant were in the team instead of Shaw and Saha!?

[zen]

7 minutes ago, New guy said:

One counter attacking innings could have stemmed the rot. A team score of 150 and game over. Aussies would chase 250 when they havent crossed 200 this series?

 

Its not easy to chase 4th innings in Aus. Smith has a highest score of 40, with 0 50s in 25 4th innings in Australia

In a shoulda woulda coulda scenarios anything is possible - Burns scored 51*, he could score 251* 

 

 

[zen]

12 minutes ago, New guy said:

Pant dropped 1 catch off a spinner. Not a pacer

Does not matter in a shoulda woulda coulda discussion involving pink ball

Edited December 29, 2020 by zen

[dilliboy]

They might have a bigger first innings lead but I doubt they could have saved that collapse.. Maybe India would score 86 instead of 36.

[Tyron]

2 hours ago, zen said:

The point is that 100s of scenarios can be created including Pant dropping catches so Aus can be even more “lucky”

 

Everyone would make millions of $s by theoretically buying commodities at their lowest price and selling at their highest. There would be no poverty 

Again all conjecture. With the 4 that got picked for this test, I have no doubt the Xtra bowler plus extra with batting ability will make us harder to beat. advantage would be with India. 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Saha shudnt be even a discussion now , move on. Have him as backup keeper and someone who will keep helping pant with his keeping. 

 

[zen]

4 hours ago, Tyron said:

Again all conjecture. With the 4 that got picked for this test, I have no doubt the Xtra bowler plus extra with batting ability will make us harder to beat. advantage would be with India. 

 

harder or easier or whatever works to console .... bowled out for 36 .... enough said 

Edited December 29, 2020 by zen

[Tyron]

Just now, zen said:

harder or easier to whatever works to console .... bowled out for 36 .... enough said 

Pink ball. Enough said. Pink ball is not red ball. Enough said.

 

Pink ball, you can win in a session when they lights are out. 

 

 

[Tyron]

1 minute ago, zen said:

harder or easier to whatever works to console .... bowled out for 36 .... enough said 

Bowled out for 36 with the wrong selections though. So.....yea.

[Gollum]

Better team won, just move on already. We aren't minnows to talk about these coulda woulda shoulda scenarios. 

[Majestic]

Yes, we would have won if that unfit dolly dropper Shaw didn't played.

[zen]

14 minutes ago, Tyron said:

Pink ball. Enough said. Pink ball is not red ball. Enough said.

 

Pink ball, you can win in a session when they lights are out. 

 

 

 

and we saw who won a session in a big way 

 

14 minutes ago, Tyron said:

Bowled out for 36 with the wrong selections though. So.....yea.

Wrong or right .... for all the conjectures, others could have scored ducks 

 

Edited December 29, 2020 by zen

[Tyron]

2 minutes ago, zen said:

 

and we saw who won a session in a big way 

 

Wrong or right .... others would  have scored ducks 

 

You know that because? You are conjecturing here. 

They won't one fluke session. It's like a lucky punch in a fight. If India played those 4 players who missed the first test, the left right combo would put them off. Would have been a different game. I don't see India being bowled out cheaply. If anything India would have the added benefit of an extra bowler who is a quality all rounder. Maybe have bowled Australia out even earlier. 

[zen]

10 minutes ago, Tyron said:

You know that because? You are conjecturing here. 

They won't one fluke session. It's like a lucky punch in a fight. If India played those 4 players who missed the first test, the left right combo would put them off. Would have been a different game. I don't see India being bowled out cheaply. If anything India would have the added benefit of an extra bowler who is a quality all rounder. Maybe have bowled Australia out even earlier. 

keep dreaming .... I have spent more than enough time on this 

Edited December 29, 2020 by zen

[Tyron]

Just now, zen said:

keep dreaming .... I spent enough time on you 

Stay delusional. I wasted enough time for a pointless convo. 

 

Anyway 36 Al out wodulnt have happened if the right choices were made. Unfortunately it's true. Besides Aussies would have been cleaned up earlier. That's the truth. 

[nitinbwj]

Nope. 

[putrevus]

Yes , it would have made a huge difference. Shaw and Saha are walking wickets no better than tailenders. Shastri/Kohli should be docked half of his salary for selecting those two bozos when everyone could see them failing.

 

Pant brings that Xfactor and fearless approach you need to win. You cannot be afraid to fail if you want to succeed .Saha should be sent to retirement enough of him already.