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9 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Not true, salaried people get taxed at source. Rich and business have different tax rate based on their type of income. Income gained from stock trading is much lower than salaried personal income. Capital gain tax is 15-20% while salaried have slabs which reach 35% in any country. EU has the max tax for salaried income, socialized state. Agri  income is not at all taxed , rich farmers and arthiyas pay 0 tax

aap pravasi bharatiya nahi lagte hain. khwabon ki duniya mein rehte hai ? ,  :hysterical:

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14 hours ago, Khota said:

Salaried people end up paying taxes but rich folks seldom do.

a lot of people in the informal economy and professionals who deal in black ( doctors, dentists, lawyers etc) arent rich as industrialists are.  There is a fine line of how much you want to tax these people as the more black they have the more they spend in the retail economy which raises GST for the Gov and more employment but again these retail avenues continue the black money cycle. There must be a way to incentivise people and businesses to pay a 'fair' amount of tax which doesn't impact their lifestyle and spending habits

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8 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said:

a lot of people in the informal economy and professionals who deal in black ( doctors, dentists, lawyers etc) arent rich as industrialists are.  There is a fine line of how much you want to tax these people as the more black they have the more they spend in the retail economy which raises GST for the Gov and more employment but again these retail avenues continue the black money cycle. There must be a way to incentivise people and businesses to pay a 'fair' amount of tax which doesn't impact their lifestyle and spending habits

Corporates avoid taxes generally by reinvesting into business is not same as Tax theft by businesses (professionals/non professional/shops/small factories ) who simply decide to not enter income in books.

 

Here in UK, small shop owners used to make massive sales but weren’t paying the dues. Government introduced multiple Supermarkets every town and that was end of it

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1 hour ago, mishra said:

Corporates avoid taxes generally by reinvesting into business is not same as Tax theft by businesses (professionals/non professional/shops/small factories ) who simply decide to not enter income in books.

 

Here in UK, small shop owners used to make massive sales but weren’t paying the dues. Government introduced multiple Supermarkets every town and that was end of it

but the black economy is a very very small % of the wider economic ecosystem. It's not limited to shop owners- even tradespeople like plumbers and builders can take cash without VAT

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On 5/22/2023 at 9:24 AM, bharathh said:

It's true. 

 

I rarely have cash in my wallet. In major cities you don't need cash for any transactions. The only time I've used cash is when I go camping/trekking as I'm not sure of the data connectivity in some areas. I did have to use it in Leh and Kashmir though due to the connectivity issues. 

 

Still, 2000 Rs notes hardly have any significance today except for hoarders.

 

Even foreign tourists can avail of this feature. 

 

 

 

I visited India after 4.5 years, and the biggest change I noticed?  Digital payments. By far.

 

I felt like a freakkin dinosaur.  I was at a "Paatre angadi" (kitchenwares shop) counting cash at the counter and 3 people walked past me, flashed their phone in front of the PayTM QR code, and walked away with their stuff.  And there I was going "ainooru, saaviraa, saaviradainooru ... (500 ... 1000 ... 1500 ...)."  It was a bit humiliating :-)

 

The most amusing thing?  I have never, ever read a QR code.  Ever.   

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8 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

 

I visited India after 4.5 years, and the biggest change I noticed?  Digital payments. By far.

 

I felt like a freakkin dinosaur.  I was at a "Paatre angadi" (kitchenwares shop) counting cash at the counter and 3 people walked past me, flashed their phone in front of the PayTM QR code, and walked away with their stuff.  And there I was going "ainooru, saaviraa, saaviradainooru ... (500 ... 1000 ... 1500 ...)."  It was a bit humiliating :-)

 

The most amusing thing?  I have never, ever read a QR code.  Ever.   

https://www.denso-wave.com/en/technology/vol1.html

This might help you Profsr :--D

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6 hours ago, diga said:

Very cool Sat morning coffee reading.  Thank you! 

 

From a more practical standpoint, I've just not found a good enough QR code reader yet for my Android.  I downloaded one when I was in India, but it was crap so I gave up.  Any recommendations?

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17 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

 

I visited India after 4.5 years, and the biggest change I noticed?  Digital payments. By far.

 

I felt like a freakkin dinosaur.  I was at a "Paatre angadi" (kitchenwares shop) counting cash at the counter and 3 people walked past me, flashed their phone in front of the PayTM QR code, and walked away with their stuff.  And there I was going "ainooru, saaviraa, saaviradainooru ... (500 ... 1000 ... 1500 ...)."  It was a bit humiliating :-)

 

The most amusing thing?  I have never, ever read a QR code.  Ever.   

:laugh1: Only NRIs use cash. I lived in India for 2 years back in 2015. So I used Paytm, Swiggy, iMoble , Olx, Urban co. 
 

Back here I have started Apple Pay, Venmo, Zelle 

 

Treasure trove of convenience 

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13 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Very cool Sat morning coffee reading.  Thank you! 

 

From a more practical standpoint, I've just not found a good enough QR code reader yet for my Android.  I downloaded one when I was in India, but it was crap so I gave up.  Any recommendations?

The native app on my S22 works fine for me.. even from a distance of 7-8 feet

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4 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Hmm ... I don't even know that my A20 has a native QR code app.

Camera software on all smartphone should come integrated with QR code reader...   digression aside, the UPI payment gateway will heavily challenge credit card biz in the short term. 

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2 hours ago, diga said:

Camera software on all smartphone should come integrated with QR code reader...   digression aside, the UPI payment gateway will heavily challenge credit card biz in the short term. 

Rupay is already kicking the traditional giants. Apparently, 65% of all debit cards are Rupay cards although CCs have a long way to go. Definitely worrying for Visa and Mastercard.

 

https://business.paytm.com/blog/rupay-card-growth-in-india-ft/#:~:text=According to a new RBI,credit card market in India.

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