Jimmy Cliff Posted September 26, 2021 Posted September 26, 2021 8 hours ago, Khota said: That happened because they were doing population control aka nasbandi. You need to get your history straight. They weren't doing that on their own. They were supported by Western Thugs like Ford Foundation. These same foundations are still around and have funded Kejriwal's NGOs in the past. As well as the Gujarat Government when Modi was the CM for that matter. The puppeteers remain the same even if the puppets change . Real McCoy and coffee_rules 1 1
Khota Posted September 26, 2021 Posted September 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said: They weren't doing that on their own. They were supported by Western Thugs like Ford Foundation. These same foundations are still around and have funded Kejriwal's NGOs in the past. As well as the Gujarat Government when Modi was the CM for that matter. The puppeteers remain the same even if the puppets change . I dont think the west was forcing it. Population control is a mean to reduce poverty.
rkt.india Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 10 hours ago, Khota said: Nasbandi got IG. She lost in 77 due to emergency, not nasbandi.
rkt.india Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 4 hours ago, Under_Score said: Sad part is bjp followers are just in 'Awe' of some corrupt Billionaires who have already made enough money & still want more...it doesn't matter to them if farmers lose their land, their greed has no boundaries.....Billionaires in the West are the biggest donors....Indian ones like A & A are still hungry & dying to achieve more money instead of helping the needy....what a contrast!!...Shame. No farmer is losing his land. You think A&A want to do farming? They only want farmers to do the farming. They do just business, buying and selling.
Khota Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Under_Score said: Sad part is bjp followers are just in 'Awe' of some corrupt Billionaires who have already made enough money & still want more...it doesn't matter to them if farmers lose their land, their greed has no boundaries.....Billionaires in the West are the biggest donors....Indian ones like A & A are still hungry & dying to achieve more money instead of helping the needy....what a contrast!!...Shame. You hit the nail on the head. The "Awe" of billionaire is stinking. I understand Tata, HCL etc. but Birla being a billionaire shows everything wrong. He represents the liscence raj that was in India. Made Ambassador for decades with no competition. Not one improvement to that car for decades, not even one door handle. Under_Score 1
Khota Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 2 hours ago, rkt.india said: No farmer is losing his land. You think A&A want to do farming? They only want farmers to do the farming. They do just business, buying and selling. You miss the point. If they do buying and selling they can control price with no government support. If farmer inputs are higher he will lose his land. I understand you dont understand this but please make an effort to understand the underlying issues with the bill. speedheat and Under_Score 2
speedheat Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 2 hours ago, rkt.india said: No farmer is losing his land. You think A&A want to do farming? They only want farmers to do the farming. They do just business, buying and selling. O bhai please, Those are crooked businessmen who will go to any length to recoup their losses and there's no guarantee they won't target farmers' land. Farmers are not fools they are aware of this. Khota and Under_Score 2
Khota Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 40 minutes ago, speedheat said: O bhai please, Those are crooked businessmen who will go to any length to recoup their losses and there's no guarantee they won't target farmers' land. Farmers are not fools they are aware of this. Do you think a farmer making 5000 pm can stand against a 100 billion entity without government support? Only in the BJP world they would be better off.
coffee_rules Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 Yes, today I learnt that A&A are interested only in Punjab and Haryana farmers’ land. They don’t care about the rest of the country.
speedheat Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Khota said: Do you think a farmer making 5000 pm can stand against a 100 billion entity without government support? Only in the BJP world they would be better off. There is no way they gonna survive a legal battle against these crooks. Andani is probably a bigger thug, and bhaktards here have no idea what kind of crook he is. Khota and Under_Score 2
mishra Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 Have you guys ever wondered why Ambani and Adanis are allways villains while people like Tata, Premji are never discussed. Afterall it is not now but in past, they made massive money under licence raaj system and enjoyed monopoly over some of Indias sectors. Answer may be sectors they have started operating Defence, Energy and Telecom. These three sectors are no go for a developing nation billionaires. There is one more sector, Trading and Finance. Right now we haven’t got any bad billionaire in that sector either. Jimmy Cliff 1
rkt.india Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Khota said: You miss the point. If they do buying and selling they can control price with no government support. If farmer inputs are higher he will lose his land. I understand you dont understand this but please make an effort to understand the underlying issues with the bill. How farmers are going to lose their land in this process. Make me understand.
rkt.india Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 3 hours ago, speedheat said: O bhai please, Those are crooked businessmen who will go to any length to recoup their losses and there's no guarantee they won't target farmers' land. Farmers are not fools they are aware of this. What losses? Farmer's are sellers. They are buyers. Farmers have the option whether to sell to them or not. No one is forcing farmers to do that. They can sell in mandis too or anywhere in the country.
speedheat Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: What losses? Farmer's are sellers. They are buyers. Farmers have the option whether to sell to them or not. No one is forcing farmers to do that. They can sell in mandis too or anywhere in the country. 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: What losses? Farmer's are sellers. They are buyers. Farmers have the option whether to sell to them or not. No one is forcing farmers to do that. They can sell in mandis too or anywhere in the country. Please don't tell me that there won't be any disputes between buyers and sellers. This isn't ramrajya, there will be disagreements, which will lead to a legal battle between two parties. Farmers may face legal action from retailers, which could result in farmers loosing their land. Yes, farmers are not being forced, but lucrative offers that promise a higher price than the msp will always entice farmers. There's also no guarantee that buyers won't make multiple deductions in the name of quality In one case in MP, a retailer promised rs 65/quintal of wheat, which was 65rs higher than the msp price, but ended up lowering it in the name of quality and high hardendness. And farmers ended up getting lower price than msp. My sources are FB but there is every possibility of such frauds happening especially With the entry of people who do not have a licence or registration thanks to fakendras thoughtless law, farmers will be vulnerable to fraud. Edited September 27, 2021 by speedheat Under_Score 1
Real McCoy Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 23 hours ago, Khota said: We agree to disagree. Kejriwal loves India as much as anyone else. I disagree with your assertion. Yes lets agree to disagree. Kejri loves his masters like a holding. I also disagree with your assertion mishra 1
Khota Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 2 hours ago, rkt.india said: How farmers are going to lose their land in this process. Make me understand. If your input >>> than rate of return. You are at aloss. To make up you mortgage your land. Next you know you lose it. Not very complicated. speedheat and Under_Score 2
Jimmy Cliff Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 9 hours ago, mishra said: Have you guys ever wondered why Ambani and Adanis are allways villains while people like Tata, Premji are never discussed. Afterall it is not now but in past, they made massive money under licence raaj system and enjoyed monopoly over some of Indias sectors. Answer may be sectors they have started operating Defence, Energy and Telecom. These three sectors are no go for a developing nation billionaires. There is one more sector, Trading and Finance. Right now we haven’t got any bad billionaire in that sector either. Which is ironic considering Tatas provided most funding to the BJP.
coffee_rules Posted September 28, 2021 Posted September 28, 2021 And Adani is actually Congress’s favorite. Adani is Congress’ favorite businessman just how Anil Ambani was as Adani gets Rs. 50,000 cr project in Rajasthan speedheat 1
rkt.india Posted September 28, 2021 Posted September 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Khota said: If your input >>> than rate of return. You are at aloss. To make up you mortgage your land. Next you know you lose it. Not very complicated. This isn't exclusive to this. speedheat 1
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