zen Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) When the going gets tough, Eng can get going. We have seen that play out in different formats, the ability of Eng to surprise. They are a confident bunch that came with a relatively inexperienced side, rotated its key players, and so on to have the series locked at 1-1. Currently, they face the prospect of playing on another rank turner but the ball can swing too in the late evening. At 13/2 odds at the moment, 53% of the bets are placed on Eng. Are you taking the odds? Edited February 20, 2021 by zen Laaloo 1 Link to comment
Serpico Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 yeah those are good odds, very tempting Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 England will lose. I will be very very surprised if it does not happen. Some Indians just lack cojones to be confident before a test match at home. Laaloo, Adamant, SK_IH and 1 other 4 Link to comment
sage Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, zen said: When the going gets tough, Eng can get going. We have seen that play out in different formats, the ability of Eng to surprise. They are a confident bunch that came with a relatively inexperienced side, rotated its key players, and so on to have the series locked at 1-1. Currently, they face the prospect of playing on another rank turner but the ball can swing too in the late evening. At 13/2 odds at the moment, 53% of the bets are placed on Eng. Are you taking the odds? More value betting against the draw imo Link to comment
zen Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, sage said: More value betting against the draw imo pink ball tests are more likely to generate a win/loss result (unless the dew hinders the bowlers) Edited February 20, 2021 by zen Link to comment
Adamant Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 hours ago, express bowling said: England will lose. I will be very very surprised if it does not happen. Some Indians just lack cojones to be confident before a test match at home. And then these same snowflakes call our players choker. Chaar saal mai ek match haare aur usme hi inki saansen fool gayi. Bunch of sissies. Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, express bowling said: England will lose. I will be very very surprised if it does not happen. Some Indians just lack cojones to be confident before a test match at home. It's not about cajones. England has been a bogey side for more than a decade now. Edited February 20, 2021 by Nikhil_cric Indwin 1 Link to comment
neel roy Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: It's not about cajones. England has been a bogey side for more than a decade now. More bogey side in terms of tosses. India has lost 10 of last 12 tosses against England. Stan AF, AuxiliA and nevada 1 2 Link to comment
zen Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 let keep jingoism out of the thread! Indwin and Laaloo 1 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I hope England don't shock us lol. We are under strength but still strong enough to kick anyone's butt at home. However if England win the toss this time it will be Interesting. If they win the toss on a turning pitch, they need to out up 300. Anything less then it's India's game. On Pattas, anything under 400 would be suicidal against India. Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, neel roy said: More bogey side in terms of tosses. India has lost 10 of last 12 tosses against England. That is true but then we were unsuccessful in 3 bilaterals before that as well! I dont think any team has won 4 test matches against India in India in the last 16 years or so. May not sound like a lot but considering that, in the period I mentioned , no other team has won as many I think we can say that they are our toughest opponent nowadays. And that's not even including our last 3 away tours to England . Edited February 20, 2021 by Nikhil_cric Indwin 1 Link to comment
sage Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 4 hours ago, zen said: pink ball tests are more likely to generate a win/loss result (unless the dew hinders the bowlers) Yes that's why I'm saying betting against draw happening. Don't think there's any chance of one. Don't see how it's more likely than England winning Link to comment
zen Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, sage said: Yes that's why I'm saying betting against draw happening. Don't think there's any chance of one. Don't see how it's more likely than England winning The difficulty of each outcome is reflected in its odds (esp. due to conditions and home advantage) ... but if toss is going to play a big role and if conditions favor swing to some degree too, Eng gets the edge ... The odds of 13/2 imply that if you risk 2 months of income for e.g., you will gain back 1 year's worth of income ... rewards (6.5 times) > risk (where toss can make the game 50:50) ... therefore, a tempting proposition esp. considering the nature of the pink ball test! ... on the other hand, if you feel Eng has 0 chance whatsoever, you can bet on Ind Edited February 21, 2021 by zen Link to comment
New guy Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 This was the pitch 2 days ago While the grass will be certainly shaved off, can you really change the nature of a pitch to make it spinning in such short time? Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 9 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: It's not about cajones. England has been a bogey side for more than a decade now. At home, we have lost only in 2012, when our test side was at an all time low in terms of leadership and confidence. rollingstoned 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: At home, we have lost only in 2012, when our test side was at an all time low in terms of leadership and confidence. England still have been the most competitive side in India since atleast 2001. The only time they were properly thrashed was in 2016. Even when we beat them in 2001 and 2009, it was only by a margin of 1 test and in 2006 it was a drawn series. The 2012-13 Indian side may have had weaknesses but they were still a strong side at home that whitewashed NZ and Australia in the same season. Indwin 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: England still have been the most competitive side in India since atleast 2001. The only time they were properly thrashed was in 2016. Even when we beat them in 2001 and 2009, it was only by a margin of 1 test and in 2006 it was a drawn series. The 2012-13 Indian side may have had weaknesses but they were still a strong side at home that whitewashed NZ and Australia in the same season. 2012 was the weakest Indian side post 2000. All geriatric players past their expiry date. England got extremely lucky in that tour. rollingstoned 1 Link to comment
zen Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) Which betting sites do people use in general? Edited February 21, 2021 by zen Link to comment
Jay Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 5 hours ago, zen said: Which betting sites do people use in general? Sportsbet. Bet 365. zen 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 23 hours ago, sarchasm said: Our bowlers are doing ok. They were pretty good in that first test even with the handicap of two passengers as bowlers, Sundar and Nadeem. The batting has a brittle look about it, though. The triumvirate of Kohli, Pujara, and Rahane simply do not make big hundreds with enough regularity. If these three were churning out the runs we expect from them, this series would be done and dusted by now. Rahane is the real issue in that lineup. Kohli and Pujara maybe slightly past their respective peaks but Rahane's 35 average in the last 4 + years is costing this team big time. They have to either play Pant at 7 to accommodate Rahane and play 4 bowlers or replace him . Link to comment
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